Steven Crowder / LouderWithCrowder / @scrowder / The "Change my Mind" meme guy - Talk show host who burns all bridges, even with his own wife

[sneedem&feedem]

At about 26:34, former lawyer Viva Frei and current lawyer Robert Barnes covered the lawfare between Crowder and Jared.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

At about 26:34, former lawyer Viva Frei and current lawyer Robert Barnes covered the lawfare between Crowder and Jared.

Sorry for off topic, but Viva Frei stopped being a lawyer?

 

[sneedem&feedem]

Sorry for off topic, but Viva Frei stopped being a lawyer?

Yeah, he stopped practing years ago and let his license lapse. He's moved to Florida anyway and wouldn't be able to practice with a Canadian degree. Unlike other alcoholic lawyers, he doesn't seem to find the need to hold a law license to appeal to authorities.

 

[LolRaccoon]

Update: Jared is at a little over 90% of his GoFundMe and he is issuing charges against Louder with Crowder.

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For many years, Steven Crowder has been one of the most popular and affluent online conservative media personalities in the country. His YouTube channel has 5.8 million followers and his videos regularly attract hundreds of thousands and even millions of views.

In 2018, Crowder’s producer, Jared Mittelo aka Jared Monroe, quit his job along with his brother, Aaron Mittelo. As part of quitting his job, like many other workers in the country, Jared signed a separation agreement that contained confidentiality and non-disparagement clauses. The clauses read as follows:

[Confidentiality]
As part of this agreement, and as an additional material inducement to the Parties to enter this Agreement, Employer and Employee agree to keep the existence and terms of this Agreement confidential and to not disclose its provisions to anyone except immediate family members, tax advisors, legal counsel, or as required by law. Any further disclosure, other than as authorized herein shall constitute a breach of this Agreement.
[Non-Disparagement]
Employer and Employee further agree not to take actions or make statements, written or oral, that would disparage or otherwise defame the goodwill or reputation of the other or his/its business, customers, clients, members, managers, predecessors, successors, parents, subsidiaries, affiliates, insurers, assigns, agents, attorneys, employees, shareholders, and representatives.

Retaliatory Legal Actions​

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Now, six years later, Crowder, through his company Louder with Crowder, LLC (LWC), has begun aggressively pursuing legal action against Jared.

On October 27, 2023, attorneys for LWC filed a Rule 202 Petition in a Texas district court asking the court to order Jared to provide documents and be deposed about things he may have said to dozens of people about LWC.

On October 30, 2023, attorneys for LWC sent a cease-and-desist letter to Jared instructing him to “IMMEDIATELY CEASE AND DESIST FROM MAKING ANY FURTHER DISPARAGING STATEMENTS, WRITTEN OR ORAL, ABOUT LWC.”

On March 27, 2024, attorneys for LWC filed a complaint in a Texas district court alleging that Jared breached the non-disparagement provision. In the complaint, attorneys for LWC focus entirely on innocuous text messages between Jared and Crowder’s ex-wife, Hilary. Hilary and Steven recently divorced following the release of security camera footage of Steven berating his then-pregnant wife:

In the video, he snaps at her to put on her gloves to give his dogs medicine, walk the dogs, and otherwise "perform wifely duties," as she is clearly emotionally distressed.
Towards the end of the exchange, Hilary Crowder says to her husband, "Your abuse is sick," he snaps at her, saying, "Watch it. Fucking watch it."
Moments later, off camera, Steven Crowder, by his admission, would lose control and scream at his pregnant wife in a threatening tone, "I will fuck you up," which led his wife to flee their home.

Crowder appears to be lashing out at Jared because he allegedly reached out to Hilary as a friend during the divorce process.


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Unfair Labor Practices​

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The problem with LWC’s legal assault on Jared is that the confidentiality and non-disparagement clauses that LWC is relying upon blatantly violate Section 8(a)(1) of the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA).

In Shamrock Foods (2018, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) analyzed a separation agreement that contained the following confidentiality and non-disparagement clauses:

[Confidentiality]
You have executed a Confidentiality Agreement and you acknowledge that the terms of such agreement remain in effect notwithstanding the termination of your employment. . . . You may not use/disclose any of the Company’s Confidential Information for any reason following your termination and during the transition period.
[Non-Disparagement]
You agree not to make any disparaging remarks or take any action now, or at any time in the future, which could be detrimental to the Released Parties.

The Board found that both of these clauses violated Section 8(a)(1) of the NLRA and ordered the employer to rescind them.

More recently, in McLaren Macomb (2023), the Board analyzed a severance agreement with the following confidentiality and non-disparagement clauses:

[Confidentiality]
The Employee acknowledges that the terms of this Agreement are confidential and agrees not to disclose them to any third person, other than spouse, or as necessary to professional advisors for the purposes of obtaining legal counsel or tax advice, or unless legally compelled to do so by a court or administrative agency of competent jurisdiction.
[Non-Disparagement]
At all times hereafter, the Employee agrees not to make statements to Employer’s employees or to the general public which could disparage or harm the image of Employer, its parent and affiliated entities and their officers, directors, employees, agents and representatives.

As in Shamrock Foods, the Board found that both of the clauses violated Section 8(a)(1) of the NLRA and ordered the employer to rescind them.

Even more recently, on March 20, 2024, Region 19 of the NLRB issued a complaint against SpaceX for having confidentiality and non-disparagement clauses in a severance agreement that are virtually identical to the clauses in McLaren Macomb, Shamrock Foods, and Jared’s separation agreement.

The law is clear that the mere existence of these kinds of restrictive clauses violates the NLRA. Attempting to enforce them by sending cease-and-desist letters, seeking judicial discovery, and filing lawsuits, as LWC has done in this case, also separately violates the NLRA.

Last Friday, acting as Jared’s legal representative, I filed an unfair labor practice charge in the Atlanta Region of the NLRB, alleging that LWC has committed the following unfair labor practices:

1. Maintaining an illegal confidentiality rule in an employment agreement.
2. Maintaining an illegal confidentiality rule in a separation agreement.
3. Maintaining an illegal non-disparagement rule in a separation agreement.
4. Engaging in unlawful interrogation and surveillance by seeking to obtain information about protected activity using the tools of judicial discovery.
5. Sending legal threats instructing Jared to not engage in protected activity.
6. Filing a baseless, retaliatory lawsuit that seeks the illegal objective of enforcing illegal confidentiality and non-disparagement rules.

If Mr. Mittelo’s charges prevail at the NLRB, Louder with Crowder, LLC will be required to rescind these clauses from all of its separation agreements with former employees and be required to reimburse Mr. Mittelo for any legal expenses he has already incurred or will incur going forward contending with his former employer’s illegal state court actions.

In addition to being illegal, LWC’s behavior in this case is also reprehensible and, curiously given Crowder’s conservative politics, contrary to the basic spirit of free speech and free markets. Employers should not attempt to lock down the speech of their former employees for the rest of their lives. We do not live in a feudal society but rather in a free-labor regime where workers are allowed to move between employers and communicate with one another and to the public about the merits of one employer over another. They should not live in fear of being harassed in court for exercising those rights.

Get his ass, Jared.

 

[Dr. Butt]

I'm sorry, but if you take a threat written on a sweet potato seriously, and also post on social media that you take a threat written on a sweet potato seriously, you are both a faggot and a retard.

I don't know. Someone crazy enough to mail threat potatoes is probably as crazy as someone who uses more than three exclamation points in a row (thanks, Pterry) and may actually try something.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

I don't know. Someone crazy enough to mail threat potatoes is probably as crazy as someone who uses more than three exclamation points in a row (thanks, Pterry) and may actually try something.

Better dust that tatter for Jared's finger prints then, because it could have been sent by some random clown, the neighbors, maybe even Chowder himself.

 

[Colonel Sugarlemons]

If Mr. Mittelo’s charges prevail at the NLRB, Louder with Crowder, LLC will be required to rescind these clauses from all of its separation agreements with former employees and be required to reimburse Mr. Mittelo for any legal expenses he has already incurred or will incur going forward contending with his former employer’s illegal state court actions.

If this is true and if this plays out this way, there is going to be a multi-week circle jerk in conservative media of former employees divulging all the insane shit they had to deal with from Crowder. No wonder the LWC team is freaking the fuck out.

 

[carto-ro]

I went back and rewatched Dave’s appearance on Michael Malice’s show and it’s crazy just how much shit Crowder gave him. There’s tons of little bizarre things like making Dave wait out in the green room while the others rehearse so Crowder can hit jokes quicker, holding other people’s jobs hostage to get a credit in Dave’s special, texting Dave to write a bit for the next day at 11pm then getting mad when he’s late for work at 7am. Then to have Crowder try to gaslight about Dave making more than him days before the Daily Wire 50 mil contract drama. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s pulling that kind of constant wearing down shit in his marriage.

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

At about 26:34, former lawyer Viva Frei and current lawyer Robert Barnes covered the lawfare between Crowder and Jared.

I use to really enjoy listening to Robert Barnes's takes, but over the past couple of months I've realized he treats the audience like a jury and tries to convince the viewer of his argument. I was talking to a somewhat more left-of-me friend who's a defense lawyer, and he called Barns a "blowhard" .. which feels about right.

Barnes is right about Jared not understanding the law. But he doesn't address that Jared was asked to sign an NDA upon leaving; or Jared's claim Crowder tried to retroactively turn his employment agreement into a non-compete. Maybe Barnes actually read the agreement in the disclosures? Barnes does do more cases with high profile Hollywood types, so maybe an exit NDA is typical?

It does seem like Jared got pulled into this ex-wife shit, but it could also be true what he said about years of legal debt. Maybe he's still bitter for losing a few 10k of money and her legal team reached out to him and he saw an opportunity of making some of that back. This is a risky path to take ... but I agree with Barnes, he doesn't seem to be the smartest.

Jared might be a fucking moron, but this + what Dave said seems to indicate that Chowder is a piece of shit to actually work with. Jared might be doing some legal bullshit, but I have a feeling Chowderhead still isn't a good dude.

Also, Barnes doesn't address the limits of an NDA. No one is asking: What fucking trade secrets does Jared have?! Just saying Crowder is a fuckass doesn't seem like you could cover it with an NDA. If the work conditions were terrible, or bordered on illegal, that's also not covered by an NDA. And NDA should just cover any trade secrets that helped make Crowder's show profitable. Considering they still can't even start on time, I don't even know what those secrets could even be!

Barnes says, "I have no doubts Crowder might not be the easiest person to work for..."

He seems like a total dickhead. Maybe Barnes is a dick to his staff too and feels something personal here?

There's some interesting stuff here and Barnes does make some good points as far as the lawfare aspects. Still, he just glazes over the fact that Crowder has a lot more money to spend on lawyers here.

Interesting clip for sure. I wonder what happened to half-asian lawyer Bill.

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

I went back and rewatched Dave’s appearance on Michael Malice’s show and it’s crazy just how much shit Crowder gave him. There’s tons of little bizarre things like making Dave wait out in the green room while the others rehearse so Crowder can hit jokes quicker, holding other people’s jobs hostage to get a credit in Dave’s special, texting Dave to write a bit for the next day at 11pm then getting mad when he’s late for work at 7am. Then to have Crowder try to gaslight about Dave making more than him days before the Daily Wire 50 mil contract drama. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s pulling that kind of constant wearing down shit in his marriage.

I remember watching that interview way back when it came out. I thought "Well maybe Dave is late and he's embellishing himself a bit." You never really know.

But Dave starts his show on time. It's not very good, but he still is better at running a show than Crowder. I think Jared is a bit of a moron and might be chasing after the money he lost on lawyers, but between those stories I think Crowder is the bigger asshole by a few 100k.

 

[Kheapathic]

What fucking trade secrets does Jared have?!

Depends on how hardcore the Louder with Chowder organization operated and outlined things. Most people think of trade secrets like code/programs/etc; but workflow and how something operates (like fishing for the undercover Antifa stuff) can also be a trade secret, to include a list of sponsorships and their contacts or other things. It sounds silly, but look at Project Veritas and how many weirdos they got on tape saying crazy shit; it may sound silly, but the way they research and ensare could be considered a trade secret, even if it's basic shit that every anti-hacking/safety brief warns of. The problem being, I doubt Chowder's club operates any differently from most broadcast media works; they don't have any unique tech, operation schedule, brand deals, or other stuff. Sure the content they put out is unique when compared to others, but I'm willing to bet that 80% of behind the scenes stuff is basic routine stuff that any broadcast veteran knows.

Jared knows Chowder is a piece of shit person, he's not harboring some super secret Canadian microphone tech.

 

[0gh]

At first I thought that Crowder was incredibly retarded for sitting there with a cigar acting all superior to his wife, but if she deletes 2,000 hours after being told specifically not to it kinda gives him more credibility.

After all the insane shit we've seen women do over the decades it's not as if she couldn't have been at fault.

He is definitely gay though

 

[Mr.Bucket]

He seems like a total dickhead. Maybe Barnes is a dick to his staff too and feels something personal here?

I lost all faith in Barnes during the rittenhouse stuff. He got booted from rittenhouse's team and popped up in rekieta's streams with an axe to grind against Richards several times. And was mad as hell that they didn't waste money on some retarded handwriting behavior expert he wanted.

He came off to me as a dude who loves pissing away client's money and so far up his own ass he can see daylight. And he just sits there in that dumb chair licking and sucking on a unlit cigar like it's some sort of weird fetish.

 

[Retink Retunk]

I lost all faith in Barnes during the rittenhouse stuff. He got booted from rittenhouse's team and popped up in rekieta's streams with an axe to grind against Richards several times. And was mad as hell that they didn't waste money on some retarded handwriting behavior expert he wanted.

He came off to me as a dude who loves pissing away client's money and so far up his own ass he can see daylight. And he just sits there in that dumb chair licking and sucking on a unlit cigar like it's some sort of weird fetish.

Simple rule of thumb, never trust any Internet retard lawyer. Barnes is a mess, Ty is a mess, Balldo is Balldo, Branca is at least somewhat ok on things if there's not a woman within a hundred yards of him, and Viva, that fucker creeps me out with all of his try hard zoomer edits.

Let's not forget whatever this is:

 

[AltisticRight]

Update: Jared is at a little over 90% of his GoFundMe and he is issuing charges against Louder with Crowder.

Louder with Crowder is soon going to mean something else entirely. Something about being anally penetrated in the courtroom.

90% is solid as well, I think he'll reach the goal. That's different to a certain drunken non-practicing lawyer's stupid fundraiser.

 

[Laughing Jackass]

Calm down @Laughing Jackass and try to live up to your name instead of your by-line.

Nothing I said is erratic. It's pretty common sense Crowder made his livelihood annoying people and picking on retards pretty much the same way dipshit zoomers slightly younger than me have done all the same. That's all Crowder has done for like what, round a decade? Do yall somehow think it's more mature because he talks about "grown up topics" like he's a 6 year old? With the intention of provoking bad responses and genuinely just acting obnoxious and indignant for clicks and a few "guys look I'm not being a cunt in this other video made to show I can stop acting like a cunt"?

Like I think your overestimating how "mad" I am because genuinely I'm repeating what his normal day to day work is and it makes him sound like an asshole. It's pretty hard to find an angle where crowder isn't acting like a drama queen overreacting to people and trying to stir up an argument for clicks. It really doesn't matter if a good amount of the time it's typically mutual slap fighting faggotry, he's pretty much sunk down to that level and made a living there.

His twink friend and wife know that shit better than I do, and they did genuinely attach to him for their own benefit. It's pretty likely that the 3 of them are scummy people, and it's a shame she and crowder are likely to teach a kid to do that shit too. In a reasonable society they would be removed for being a fucking nuisance, because much like the left wing shitheads they dunk on they also like to dance at the borderline and pretend they aren't looking to cross it whenever they feel like they can get away with it.

Just the type of thing that erodes a polite and respectable standard in the world.

 

[Piggle Rick]

Nothing I said is erratic. It's pretty common sense Crowder made his livelihood annoying people and picking on retards pretty much the same way dipshit zoomers slightly younger than me have done all the same. That's all Crowder has done for like what, round a decade? Do yall somehow think it's more mature because he talks about "grown up topics" like he's a 6 year old? With the intention of provoking bad responses and genuinely just acting obnoxious and indignant for clicks and a few "guys look I'm not being a cunt in this other video made to show I can stop acting like a cunt"?

Like I think your overestimating how "mad" I am because genuinely I'm repeating what his normal day to day work is and it makes him sound like an asshole. It's pretty hard to find an angle where crowder isn't acting like a drama queen overreacting to people and trying to stir up an argument for clicks. It really doesn't matter if a good amount of the time it's typically mutual slap fighting faggotry, he's pretty much sunk down to that level and made a living there.

His twink friend and wife know that shit better than I do, and they did genuinely attach to him for their own benefit. It's pretty likely that the 3 of them are scummy people, and it's a shame she and crowder are likely to teach a kid to do that shit too. In a reasonable society they would be removed for being a fucking nuisance, because much like the left wing shitheads they dunk on they also like to dance at the borderline and pretend they aren't looking to cross it whenever they feel like they can get away with it.

Just the type of thing that erodes a polite and respectable standard in the world.

Take a deep breath or two, bro. We’re here to laugh at the slapfighting that is going on. Of course we can all cheer for our favourite retard (and for the record I’m cheering for anyone who wants to slap Cryder down) but let’s not get angry. Just enjoy the spectacle.

 

[Platonic Cat Lover]

All of this in the midst of the Candace Owens firing, So many incoming conservatives cannibalizing each other is going to be a massive shitshow.

EDIT: Can't wait to hear what Gerald's dirty laundry is since he guards Steven the hardest.

The irony is they would criticize the left for cannibalizing each other.

 

[Laughing Jackass]

Maybe shits a curse. From look of things Steven has an aura of faggy behavior.

 

[anonusername1234]

At first I thought that Crowder was incredibly retarded for sitting there with a cigar acting all superior to his wife, but if she deletes 2,000 hours after being told specifically not to it kinda gives him more credibility.

After all the insane shit we've seen women do over the decades it's not as if she couldn't have been at fault.

He is definitely gay though

Anyone who has know a women who initiated a divorce and didn't just immediately simp before looking at both sides' stories and evidence knew there was an 90% chance or better that Hillary was full of shit. Doesn't mean Steven isn't also full of shit on other topics, but on this particular one a lack of real evidence from the woman almost always means there is no evidence for her side and she has been tampering with the evidence for his side.

Of course, all the simps will soon start asking "what if she is part of the 10% who are telling the truth despite a complete lack of evidence".