Suggestion and Update Thread

Yeah, it's not as closely connected to the CWCki as it used to be. But I think the name should still reflect that this is primarily an OPL board.

So maybe, "CWC LOLDairy, Inc." or "Chris n' Friends" :heart-full:

I'm liking "Chris 'n Friends" though I'd just say "Chris and Friends." That's one option.

Again, not saying we're actually going to do this, I'm just curious if anyone has a sentimental attachment to the name as I think a name change might let us branch out.
 
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At some point we'll have a poll, but I already own atsimu.com because I fancy it. The webserver it runs on is currently not configured but it'd be easy to set up.
Was "atsimu" a drawing Chris turned in for class?
 
A bit OT: was "atsimu" a drawing Chris turned in for class?
Yes, which is why I fancy it. The word is easier to pronounce than "CWCki", it stems from Chris, and it even sounds autistic. At-seh-moo
 
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I'm just curious if anyone has a sentimental attachment to the name as I think a name change might let us branch out.
I'm not kicking cwcking and screaming against the name change because it's owned and moderated by people other than me but I'd like to chime in as one of the people who like to identify with the cwckiforums.com because these forums are supplementing the CWCki and while there is discussion about other Lolcows, there's not really a dedicated wiki out for them (aside from Parkourdude but that's not kept up by the same people who operate CWCki?) and honestly, one of my biggest fears is that if this site tries to "branch out" too much, it's going to run the risk of attracting a lot of ED spergs who're coming in here to advertise their lolcow of the day that they have a personal beef with. Chris is not the same as he used to be before, but his identity is more of a better identifier and the way the site is reacting to him(documenting, not bullying) is also largely defining the site culture at large.

However, making these "Sonichu forums" or something similar would communicate the same premise well enough. If there would be other ideas on the name change, my suggestions would be as follow :

  • Instantly recognizable as "Chris" or as a successor to the cwcki forums (as in, "Kiwi forums" might be an acceptable substitute as well even though it doesn't strike to anyone as particularly "Chris".
  • Rolls right off the tongue
  • One core word which the site takes it name from + possibly forums
 
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Yes, which is why I fancy it. The word is easier to pronounce than "CWCki", it stems from Chris, and it even sounds autistic. At-seh-moo
Would be cool if this could be distilled into a logo...maybe just the letters and cannon:

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I'm not kicking and screaming against the name change because it's owned and moderated by people other than me but I'd like to chime in as one of the people who like to identify with the cwckiforums.com because these forums are supplementing the CWCki and while there is discussion about other Lolcows, there's not really a dedicated wiki out for them (aside from Parkourdude but that's not kept up by the same people who operate CWCki?) and honestly, one of my biggest fears is that if this site tries to "branch out" too much, it's going to run the risk of attracting a lot of ED spergs who're coming in here to advertise their lolcow of the day that they have a personal beef with or some horseshit. Chris is not the same as he used to be before, but his identity is more of a better identifier and the way the site is reacting to him(documenting, not bullying) is also largely defining the site culture at large.

However, making these "Sonichu forums" or something similar would communicate the same premise well enough.
I get your concern, but the connection between the forums and the CWCki has become weaker and weaker as the years have gone by.

There are some forum members that edit and admin the CWCki, but, for example, Cogsdev, the head admin of the CWCki (or at least was until recently) isn't even a member here as far as I know.

And, there's a lot of stuff on there that wouldn't be tolerated on the forums due to A-Log issues (this is in large part because so much of its content was written during the Golden Age of CWC before Logatto himself was really established as a pariah within Christiography). And the Updates forum is now updated weeks earlier than Da Update on the CWCKi.

The coordination isn't seamless, for sure, or even really very engaged (I think there's a single thread on here about what edits to make on the CWCki).
 
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If you hate stuff in Discussion, report it. If shitty posts are reported and deleted, quality will improve.

Think of it like a community garden in an inner city. If everyone pitches in, you end up with a nice little patch of calm and niceness in an ugly area. If you depend on the city council and cops to do everything, you're going to end up with a gated field of filth full of junkies.

What qualifies as a shitty Discussion post anyway? Apart from the obvious stuff (off-topic threads, blatant a-logging, etc.) it's really kind of hard to sort out the good from the bad, because the entire forum is just the same exact conversations being rehashed ad infinitum. Establishing some kind of standard of quality seems like an impossible task when even the most well-written and intelligent posts aren't really saying anything that hasn't been said before.
 
What qualifies as a shitty Discussion post anyway? Apart from the obvious stuff (off-topic threads, blatant a-logging, etc.) it's really kind of hard to sort out the good from the bad, because the entire forum is just the same exact conversations being rehashed ad infinitum. Establishing some kind of standard of quality seems like an impossible task when even the most well-written and intelligent posts aren't really saying anything that hasn't been said before.

Even just getting rid of the ones by people who can't read the rules helps a lot. And blatant shitposting. If you get rid of both of those, you get a lot less of the sperg-tornadoes where everyone gets fired up and the thread becomes an off-topic yelling match to see who can be the loudest autist.
 
What qualifies as a shitty Discussion post anyway? Apart from the obvious stuff (off-topic threads, blatant a-logging, etc.) it's really kind of hard to sort out the good from the bad, because the entire forum is just the same exact conversations being rehashed ad infinitum. Establishing some kind of standard of quality seems like an impossible task when even the most well-written and intelligent posts aren't really saying anything that hasn't been said before.

People in the past have criticized the forum as generally being poor quality. I'm of the school of thought that we really can't quantify what a good post is here. At the same time, I don't expect everyone to have some brilliant, well thought out revelation about Chris ready for every thread. People want ot talk about Chris and I set up the forums as a place they can do so. As long as you're not being disruptive and with very low bars for what passes as a reasonable post, you're pretty much free to say whatever you want about Chris. People on PVCC have a view that their opinion about Chris is the only valid view and everyone else is a sperglord who's wrong. People on /cow/ or whatever they're calling themselves this week are like that, to a lesser degree. I don't have that view, I have opinions about Chris but I don't think it's the word of God in that my views are the only acceptable views. As long as you're not saying how Chris gives autistics like you a bad name, and you're not an asshole, you're welcome to have any views you want and to talk to them here.

Now that I think about it, I think the point about the same conversations about Chris might be a reason I never really thought of when it comes to why PVCC and /cow/ abandoned talking about Chris. But I feel like that's the way with a lot of topics though. I mean, take Shakespeare - his plays are over 400 years old, people have been reading them for that time, how much more can we say about them? I mean it's not like the man is going to release a new play, maybe they'll find a new one, and maybe someone will have some radical new way to look at but there are people who spend their lives studying the man and they're probably not saying anything radically new or clever about the man. Though to be fair, there's more breadth to someone like Shakespeare, whereas with Chris he's a real life equivalent of a one dimension TV character - he's Christian Weston Chandler, he created Sonichu, he needs a girlfriend, he's autistic, etc.

Again, I don't want to drift too far from Chris and I don't think we constantly need to make the forum "fresh" but I think we need to give us some room to breath and grow. I think the only way to revitalize interest in Chris, not that I give a shit if people are interested in him, is by making his material accessible to people in other languages so we might get some new interesting discussions or insights.
 
It would be cool if you could click on the quotes in the upper-right corner and be linked to where it was first said. I know that this is very unlikely to be implemented as it would probably be a pain to go through and find where each quote specifically came from, but it was just an idea I had today.
 
It would be cool if you could click on the quotes in the upper-right corner and be linked to where it was first said. I know that this is very unlikely to be implemented as it would probably be a pain to go through and find where each quote specifically came from, but it was just an idea I had today.
That feature already exists babe, top left though. It's the little up arrow.
 
Having "search this forum only" disabled by default would be handy for the top right search bar thing, but it might just be me that always forgets that little box is checked.
 
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