Suggestion and Update Thread

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On day one I disabled rating notifications for my posts.
The only sane option.

I will never permit this retarded horse shit to ever happen again. Instant gratification for sticker button presses is now hard coded into my book of grudges and I will never permit it to exist in the future.
Will we at least have "i disagree, but I still love you"?
 
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Can we have this updated thunk provoking emoji as sticker for the Pat thread instead of the original thunk provoking sticker? I think that would be a funny, neat little detail for the thread.

Or can we have it as a general emoji?

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Proposal: A button to open all new Watched threads in new tabs. (maybe there should be a limit of new tabs)

I don't care about the RAM cost, I have drama to catch up on!
 
I guess it's my turn to bitch and moan about the Reactions update a bit since it's been a few weeks now and it seems to have stuck around. It hasn't really changed my experience in terms of how I treat reactions, but I truly think it's made my "user experience" (hate that term but can't think of a better one) worse so I feel the need to explain how in hopes that something might be done about it.

Watched threads have become annoying. I tend to go to the homepage by default when checking the farms, so now I not only get a tiny tick on the bell telling me which threads have new content but also a massive red title to my left distracting me. I no longer get to see recent posts in the lolcow board first- instead, nearly a third of the column to my left is taken up by notifications I am already checking and/or featured posts which I typically check once and then never again.

Of this entire page:
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More than half of it is taken up by shit I don't check more often than once a week or stuff that I already check regularly, across the site, through other, much less annoying means.
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I now need 3 scrolls down to get to the same content I could previously access with maybe half of one scroll. I could always zoom out enough that the useless sections are minimized, but at that point it becomes hard to read and the fact that it carries over to every single section of the site (instead of just zooming out the home page or a thread) makes viewing images nigh-impossible.
I've noticed that it's made me bother looking for new content a lot less- instead, I tend to just stick to my watched threads/featured because it's the most accessible and catches my eye before anything else.
I don't know if there's any way to make the latest watched column collapsible or something, but if you can then please do it. It's very large, very distracting, and extremely redundant on the home page.

As for reactions: I do not care about the funny internet points. I am not obsessed with getting good-boy karma or seeing every single person who reacted to every single post. I'm mostly upset because I've now lost a very good way to judge the types of people I'm looking at.

I used reaction scores as a general way to gauge how good posters are, pitting their score against their message count. If some dude had 300 messages but 3000 points, I'd probably give his posts some thought and maybe even follow the guy. If I see some retard with 5000 posts and 400 points, I know to avoid him for being terminally online. If someone has 20 messages and -3000 score, I'd know he's an interminable retard whom I should disregard entirely.

Sure, the positive/negative dichotomy helps a tiny bit, but 99% of the users on this site have a positive score (if only by virtue of it being much harder to send 3000 messages vs gain 3000 reaction points). It's also partly useless in cases where Negative reaction scores pop up because those guys tend to have pink triangles anyways. There is no longer any reliable way to distinguish a quality poster outside of either obsessively observing their posts or scrolling through pages of user comments on their profile (half of which are made by people butthurt at them for stating an opinion, the other half of which is someone asking for a link to something).
I can live without ever knowing how many reactions I have total, or what type of reaction I get the most of (outside of Like). It's annoying, it removed a fun tidbit I used to sometimes pay attention to when trying to improve my posts or just wanted a quick overview of my reaction history, but I can live with it even after the initial humor of your total reaction score always changing wore out its welcome 10 times over. But losing the ratio specifically has made getting to know users at a glance cumbersome at best and impossible at worst, which has made browsing and engaging with the farms more of a pain.

The closest thing to the old reaction score ratio is using someone's join date to judge whether they're a newfag, but even that is made unnecessarily tedious by not showing it directly underneath a person's profile picture, instead requiring people to hover over it for a few seconds if they want to know.
Why? Seriously, why do this? The immediate first answer is "to get people to stop paying attention to join dates", but what's the point of that when those join dates are still visible? Why hide them only for posts and not for profiles too? People will still judge others based off of join dates this way, it'll just take longer to get the same result. Either hide the dates entirely or make them visible under profile pictures again, please, this shitty compromise makes things worse for everyone.
 
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Post Rating Feedback Proposal:
I can see axing EVERY time someone rates one of your posts could lead to obsessive behavior from a few neurotics who might care too much about every single negative reaction.

However, I think positive and negative feedback when you make a specially noteworthy post can help incentivize people to want to make quality posts, and find out when they said something especially boneheaded.

Specifics:
Wait 24 hours from the post. If Post has a high number of N positive or N negative ratings, kick back the cumulative feedback at that time in notification.

Maybe weight the feedback on how active the thread is. So a heavily trafficked thread will require 10x more ratings than a low traffic thread to be considered noteworthy enough to give you feed back. Kind of like how some posts are automatically highlighted.
 
non shitpost suggestion: Leave the stickers as they are now with no change because it doesn't feel like psuedo reddit anymore, and more like a normal actual forum which is the reason I want to be on a forum instead of reddit in the first place. Unpopular opinion but I don't care. I'm an old school forum user and it's better this way. I will die on this hill. You can still see your stickers and what got them recently. What more do we honestly need? Keeping score was retarded, having positive, negative and neutral is all we need to see besides looking into someone's post history to see what kind of retarded they are if it's negative.
 
Official sock account list of shame when? With categories of disgrace and frequent offender details for benign gossiping purposes, I would understand not wanting to give attention to attention whores but even the diaper SSN number guy gets recorded so why not?
I want to laugh at these retards publicly and knowing them would help notice them as they keep coming back like internet herpes, since they're apparently the same few assholes triggering overlord's angeryness recently.
 
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For when you do your new software maybe a possiblity to mark certain posts made by the OP as OPs so they can continue to be edited. When your archiving cows that produce a lot of milk it is easy to run out of room in the OP and even if you link a 2nd post to it it is not possible to edit that additional post later on.
 
I propose spinning the programming thread off into its own sub-forum. Part of that programming section could be a Q&A style thing, call it KiwiOverflow, for discussing specific problems and general concepts in a way that's easier to browse than searching through a single megathread.
I was thinking that if this thread keeps growing, it becomes harder to pick out good bits of discussion around particular problems like this. Some really good nuggets of wisdom could get buried. What if we had a sub-forum for it, perhaps similar in function to Q&A, and called it KiwiOverflow or some shit? Though, this would probably heavily diminish the number of conversation topics apropos to this thread specifically. Just thinking aloud.
I find discussion can end up looping back to the same sorts of points, like how I have explained the mathematical nature of pure functional programming at least 2 or 3 times in recent memory. As we move through conversation topics, a lot of good tidbits get buried.

I got some opinions on the idea in the programming thread before bringing it here, and I think some good points have been made. Here are some relevant quotes from recent discussion of the idea:
This is a good suggestion. This might end up being especially useful if Null ever restarts the Kiwi OSS forum software project. I might participate especially if I could use a language like GO which I've heard is close to python in some ways. Judging from this thread there are enough people here who could contribute.
The recent discussion about splitting this thread made me do a bit of thinking. I've noticed that this thread has a few distinct subtopics:
  1. General programming discussion and sperging (talking about various algorithms with a dash of "YOUR LANGUAGE IS GAY MINE IS THE BEST IT HAS NO FLAWS SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP", this thread's ideal purpose IMO)
  2. People posting what they're programming at the moment (Not code reviews. I think it could probably continue being part of this thread. I think there's a distinct thread for that already?)
  3. People needing help with certain difficult problems (A thread/board for this would be nice)
  4. People posting their code so a half-dozen random pedants can nitpick it aggressively (A thread/board for this would be nice, maybe the same thread/board as #3; I don't know)
Honestly if I could rearrange this forum to my whims I'd make I&T only for regular civilian-grade techsperging and add a new board called "Math, Science, and Programming" for threads like this one. Also a "Technical Q&A" for getting help with problems and requesting code reviews, using those tag thingies you see in certain other boards? I don't know.

Honestly, the thread's too small for shit like this. Or is it? Would the benefits of splitting offset the drawbacks? I don't fucking know lol.

Anyway this is stupid and I should shut up
I agree. A concern of mine, which I expressed to a degree in my KiwiOverflow proposal a few posts ago, is that we would run out of things to talk about in this thread if we move that objectively constructive conversation about real-world problems to a separate sub-forum. I ended up considering this thread is probably another case of a general thread topic getting split up into an entire board. Internet & Technology is too broad to work for fragmented programming discussion, so a programming sub-forum is probably the best way to go.
 
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