Super disappointment thread

[Fapcop]

@Hot Cup of Joe

The PS3 got a bad rap, partly deserved, partly undeserved. It did things no console did for years and years. Hell, you could watch youtube on the ps3 back in 2007, years before the 360 even thought of putting IE on there.

I always thought it had a great rep. Was it expensive? Yeah, and partly unfinished (as in the software and infrastructure) when it launched.

But considering you got a Blu-ray drive (when those were hella expensive), a HD and a PS2 on a chip, and a console with near supercomputer power, it wasn’t that bad of a deal. It was pretty crazy what they managed to squeeze out of the Cell processor towards the end of the PS3s lifetime. Too bad Cell never caught on.

But yeah, check out The Race for a New Game Machine if you’re a PS3/360 buff.

It’s written by a former IBM engineer who was responsible for the Power CPU on the Cell. AND for the Power PC cores on the XBox 360. (An arrangement neither Sony nor Microsoft knew the details of. Which on at least one occasion meant leading the Sony/Toshiba people out the backdoor, while Microsoft engineers arrived through the front.)

The Race For A New Game Machine

This is the inside story of the race to create a revolutionary chip to power the next generation consoles from Microsoft and Sony.

www.goodreads.com

What? No, it was released like within a week of the PS3. The 360 was the odd one out that gen coming out like a year earlier.

Yeah my timeline is screwed up. I meant technologically the Wii and Wii U were kind of the “between generations” consoles.

The WiiU arrived a while before the PS4 though (a whole year in some markets) but it was a good half a generation behind in terms of hardware and wasn’t really HD capable right when that became the new baseline.

Still... My WiiU handled CoD Black Ops 2 like a champ!

I used to play Zombies and 1 vs 1 all the time with friends: One using the Gamepad as a screen and the other the HDTV. Good times!

 

[Billy Beer]

@Hot Cup of Joe



I always thought it had a great rep. Was it expensive? Yeah, and partly unfinished (as in the software and infrastructure) when it launched.

But considering you got a Blu-ray drive (when those were hella expensive), a HD and a PS2 on a chip, and a console with near supercomputer power, it wasn’t that bad of a deal. It was pretty crazy what they managed to squeeze out of the Cell processor towards the end of the PS3s lifetime. Too bad Cell never caught on.

It was the price vs the 360, and how Microsoft made the decision to unify their Ram pool, VS Sony splitting it, causing allsorts of headaches for third parties. The 360, for the first 5 years of that gen, was hands-down the best console. But when the first parties got to grips with the architecture, good god was the PS3 a monster. My brother bought one in 2011 and he was showing me Uncharted and TLoU, basically next gen games, MS couldn't compete with that. Not even with Gears 3.

From what i understand, the Cell is still a very powerful bit of kit. With a few tweaks, it still runs faster than most modern day CPU's for certain tasks, and it's what, 15 years old? With design and test time, maybe 18 years old? Really impressive piece of kit, it was just too hard to program for. Sony learned from that with the PS4 and 5 and it really shows. The Order 1886 was a graphical benchmark for last gen, right up until GoW/Spiderman.

But yeah, check out The Race for a New Game Machine if you’re a PS3/360 buff.

It’s written by a former IBM engineer who was responsible for the Power CPU on the Cell. AND for the Power PC cores on the XBox 360. (An arrangement neither Sony nor Microsoft knew the details of. Which on at least one occasion meant leading the Sony/Toshiba people out the backdoor, while Microsoft engineers arrived through the front.)

The Race For A New Game Machine

This is the inside story of the race to create a revolutionary chip to power the next generation consoles from Microsoft and Sony.

www.goodreads.com

I'll have a read of that, it sounds like some fun shenanigans.

 

[Fapcop]

It was the price vs the 360, and how Microsoft made the decision to unify their Ram pool, VS Sony splitting it, causing allsorts of headaches for third parties. The 360, for the first 5 years of that gen, was hands-down the best console. But when the first parties got to grips with the architecture, good god was the PS3 a monster. My brother bought one in 2011 and he was showing me Uncharted and TLoU, basically next gen games, MS couldn't compete with that. Not even with Gears 3.

From what i understand, the Cell is still a very powerful bit of kit. With a few tweaks, it still runs faster than most modern day CPU's for certain tasks, and it's what, 15 years old? With design and test time, maybe 18 years old? Really impressive piece of kit, it was just too hard to program for.

Yeah, it had a completely different structure than what was “normal” and a slightly underpowered “CPU” part of the processor. (Power PC. The X360 had three of those.)

But once the programmers learned to use those 8 co-processors they could really outpace pretty much anything else. (Consider how close some of the late PS3 titles were to the early PS4 titles. Despite the PS4 having what... 16 times as much RAM?)

They made some Cell supercomputers, but unfortunately never developed a Cell 2.

(Kind of a shame that Sony didn’t have someone as ambitious as the father of the PS3 in charge later. The PS4 ended up being the right choice, but imagine a 2014 Cell CPU with 8GB of unified RAM!)

However, Intel later launched kind of a spiritual successor to the Cell: Knights Landing: A 50.000$ processor that used the same principle: One CPU “director” working with many small cores/processing elements.

TLDR: The Cell in the PS3 was a decade or more ahead of its time.

And ironically, since we’re at the end of Moore’s Law today with no more easy die shrinks, something like Cell may power consoles again in the future.

 

[Uncle June]

Dead Rising 4 was, bar none, the biggest disappointment I've ever witnessed in vidya. It took literally everything that made 1 and 2 (and 3 for the most part) great and ripped it out like a malignant polyp.

Instead we got a hollow husk of what the series was in the most general sense; an open world zombie genocide game with shitty collect-a-thon elements.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

Skatebird looked like a quirky little THPS clone.

The camera is terrible and you can get stuck into walls a lot. Don't bother.

 

[Mooger Meng]

And here my initial thought was "Super Disappointment" was the SNES sequel to some Shadowgate-style KYS simulator. Shows what I know, I guess.

(Stress-sigh)

Maybe you’re right. Maybe Dying Light 1 wasn’t as great as I remember it? Maybe it was more about the fun I had with friends and family members playing it?

Maybe... The real joy were the multiplayer friends we made along the way?

Still. I was really looking forward to that one. And now it looks like I’m going to get Cyberpunked.

Dying Light was an interesting game hampered by some questionable inventory upkeep mechanics, godawful writing in its main story, and a DLC that removed most of the claustrophobic verticality for the sake of giving you a dune buggy. Dead Island was superior, if only for the fact that you could brain zombies with a bulk-sized pack of fruit juice boxes.

 

[Someone in a Tree]

Metroid: Other M, though some of the reviews that came out in the days leading to its release prevented it from being a surprise disappointment. As much as I loved the Prime trilogy, the idea of a third person 3D Metroid was something I wanted since the N64 days. I played through the first couple of hours and set it aside for months, eventually finishing it almost as if it were an obligation. It soured me so much on the franchise that I’m holding off to see what the consensus is on Metroid Dread, a game I would have instantly preordered 15 years ago.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

I had zero hype for it but cp2077 was fun to watch implode , as for personal disappointments

Farcry 2 wasnt fun , it felt very experimentally but didnt take big enough leaps , the only redeeming factor is the setting.

Tank mechanic simulator , it was delayed twice and still came out a buggy , boring , featurelless mess that didnt even have 1/10 the content of car mechanic simulator

the hunter call of the wild , devs are more interested in adding dlcs that drip feed content into the game instead of actually trying to make it on par with thehunter classic , at least generation zero exists.

Rising storm 2 mainly due to its sudden death , tripwire seemed to have no real experience with making content for the game so when antimatter left they couldnt add any new content to it , which makes me wonder exactly what they did for the game.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Of course, CP2077.

Middle Earth: Shadow of War. I wanted my "Orc Murder Simulator" game, they gave me some stupid shit that I got bored an hour in and went back to murdering orcs in fun and entertaining ways.

Friday the 13th, the Game. Here me out, it was good at first. Fun, good community, then it all took a shit. It started with 2 ethots whining to the Devs that someone harassed them. Then the video came out of the 2 eThots telling a streamer to let a third eThot kill him or "they'd report him to their friends the Devs for harassing a child" and instead of taking that evidence and telling the Thots to get lost, they turned around and banned the guy who was being blackmailed. Then the updates started getting fucky. Then they didn't come out with the promised features. They never did work in the bots to take over for when people logged off. Then the lawsuit happened and they just abandoned the game and told everyone to fuck off. The game was actually fun with friends, but between hackers, toxic devs, and them constantly fucking up the code, it just took a nosedive.

OH! And the fact that initially on the Kickstarter there was the "Friends and Family Pack" where supposedly you'd get 4 game codes for when it released. Only, right after the Kickstarter ended, they changed it to "4 Beta Passes". That shit pissed me off.

And Alien; Isolation irritated me. It was really good right up until the "Hive in the lower sections" part. I got so annoyed I just quit. It just felt... stupid, you know? No longer was I facing a single Xenomorph that had fucked up the entire station, but now I had a whole fucking nest? So it wasn't just one. It was a shitload lurking around playing cards till I showed up? Go fuck yourself.

Shadowrun Returns. They bragged about a WHOLE NEW SHADOWRUN CONTENT! and as soon as I saw the fucking "Universal Brotherhood" sign I just had this sinking feeling. Yup, it was the fucking old module. Eat shit.

Civ: Beyond Earth. God, that game committed the worst sin of all. It was boring. The factions were all the same. But worst of all, it just was just fucking boring. Even for a Civ game, it was fucking boring.

Outer Worlds: A friend of mine gifted it to me. She wasted her money. The game is, again, just fucking boring.

The Mafia series was, well, another one that was open city and boring. Same with that True Crime one where you end up in the sewers with a flamethrower instead of doing actual detective work. Of course, they totally fucked it up so the protagonist seemed more like a malfunctioning android than a real human, but it was kind of boring outside of the scripted events.

I don't know what it is lately, if I'm too jaded or what, but so many of the games in the last 10 years are just fucking boring.

The ONE game I found that wasn't boring had a horrible fucking data-scraping process, and that was Days Gone. I actually enjoyed the game all the way through. Once the title screen rolled I felt some satisfaction. I hear there's a NG+ mode, but meh.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

Captain Tsubasa: Rise of New Champions was a real let down. The game was overly complicated and not fun. It has some really goofy mechanics and scoring was weird. And the controls were so fucking dense that it wasn't fun. But on the bright side, Inazuma Eleven: Great Road of Heroes is showing signs of being vastly improved during its three year delay. So there's hope yet for the waifutbol genre.

 

[Jason Wynn]

I was really looking forward to VtM Bloodlines 2. Loved the first game, warts and all. I play the World of Darkness tabletop, a new WoD game was going to be killer.

then I started reading about it…

the woketard writers, the janky ass combat, the blatant political agenda bullshit inserted in, and my interest in the game evaporated in an instant. I’m no longer excited for the game, I stopped following information on it, I don’t care about getting it, not even released and it’s already been ruined for me

 

[WULULULULU]

Of course, CP2077.

Middle Earth: Shadow of War. I wanted my "Orc Murder Simulator" game, they gave me some stupid shit that I got bored an hour in and went back to murdering orcs in fun and entertaining ways.

Friday the 13th, the Game. Here me out, it was good at first. Fun, good community, then it all took a shit. It started with 2 ethots whining to the Devs that someone harassed them. Then the video came out of the 2 eThots telling a streamer to let a third eThot kill him or "they'd report him to their friends the Devs for harassing a child" and instead of taking that evidence and telling the Thots to get lost, they turned around and banned the guy who was being blackmailed. Then the updates started getting fucky. Then they didn't come out with the promised features. They never did work in the bots to take over for when people logged off. Then the lawsuit happened and they just abandoned the game and told everyone to fuck off. The game was actually fun with friends, but between hackers, toxic devs, and them constantly fucking up the code, it just took a nosedive.

OH! And the fact that initially on the Kickstarter there was the "Friends and Family Pack" where supposedly you'd get 4 game codes for when it released. Only, right after the Kickstarter ended, they changed it to "4 Beta Passes". That shit pissed me off.

And Alien; Isolation irritated me. It was really good right up until the "Hive in the lower sections" part. I got so annoyed I just quit. It just felt... stupid, you know? No longer was I facing a single Xenomorph that had fucked up the entire station, but now I had a whole fucking nest? So it wasn't just one. It was a shitload lurking around playing cards till I showed up? Go fuck yourself.

Shadowrun Returns. They bragged about a WHOLE NEW SHADOWRUN CONTENT! and as soon as I saw the fucking "Universal Brotherhood" sign I just had this sinking feeling. Yup, it was the fucking old module. Eat shit.

Civ: Beyond Earth. God, that game committed the worst sin of all. It was boring. The factions were all the same. But worst of all, it just was just fucking boring. Even for a Civ game, it was fucking boring.

Outer Worlds: A friend of mine gifted it to me. She wasted her money. The game is, again, just fucking boring.

The Mafia series was, well, another one that was open city and boring. Same with that True Crime one where you end up in the sewers with a flamethrower instead of doing actual detective work. Of course, they totally fucked it up so the protagonist seemed more like a malfunctioning android than a real human, but it was kind of boring outside of the scripted events.

I don't know what it is lately, if I'm too jaded or what, but so many of the games in the last 10 years are just fucking boring.

The ONE game I found that wasn't boring had a horrible fucking data-scraping process, and that was Days Gone. I actually enjoyed the game all the way through. Once the title screen rolled I felt some satisfaction. I hear there's a NG+ mode, but meh.

Every media in the past 10 years have become so boring that each medium would look no different if you placed each side-by-side.

Anime has a ton of isekai and light novel adaptations + the occasional shonen. Movies are blockbusters with no plot and absurd usage of crappy CGI. Music has a ton of loud noise as opposed to unique tones as well as the mass-produced Korean gook shit. Videogames have either microtransactions, political shit and just lack of priority over emerging gameplay.

They all suffer 3 main problems: streamlining (be it streamlining adaptations, mechanics or storylines), lack of gatekeeping (as in ignorance of criticism and improvement) and constant corporatization (money-grubbing tactics that only aim to nickel and dime every single consoomer)

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

Every media in the past 10 years have become so boring that each medium would look no different if you placed each side-by-side.

Anime has a ton of isekai and light novel adaptations + the occasional shonen. Movies are blockbusters with no plot and absurd usage of crappy CGI. Music has a ton of loud noise as opposed to unique tones as well as the mass-produced Korean gook shit. Videogames have either microtransactions, political shit and just lack of priority over emerging gameplay.

They all suffer 3 main problems: streamlining (be it streamlining adaptations, mechanics or storylines), lack of gatekeeping (as in ignorance of criticism and improvement) and constant corporatization (money-grubbing tactics that only aim to nickel and dime every single consoomer)

That's because pretty much every major media suffers from design-by-commitee.

Tolkien didn't need 10 people to write the fantastic world. If you were to make a fantasy world with a commitee of 10 people, they would brainstorm the 10 most common/boring ideas and make the plainest fantasy world. It takes 1 genius to make something great, not 10 average people.

 

[Super Sad Smile]

Sims 4, it was the first time I got a sequel that offered less than the predecessor without adding anything. I assumed they were going to try harder after fucking up simcity 5. World felt small and limited, there was barely any traits, and sims' needs got simplified to being inconsequential. It didn't even run better, loading times were barely any faster than when I played sims 2. From what I've seen from LGR, EA just looks like they're spinning in circles or pandering with genderless bullshit. I ended up giving my copy away to a relative cause it felt like such a mistake.

Civ 6 turned me into a jaded cynic, it felt designed to make you ignore most of its systems because they weren't finished. I still doubt they tested the AI and diplomacy, that's how fucking bad it was. It also got really woke and focused on stupid shit like adding battle royale and zombie parodies, so I'm never touching it again.

I'd also mention diablo 3. Mentioning it to my brother still gets him into a rage to this day lol.

 

[Frosted Snowflakes]

Skatebird looked like a quirky little THPS clone.

The camera is terrible and you can get stuck into walls a lot. Don't bother.

Wasn't Zoe Quinn involved? Or did she donated money?

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

Wasn't Zoe Quinn involved? Or did she donated money?

Dev is a troon apparently.

Explains the many uses of 'SCREM' and 'BIRB' words in the game. Feels like retard speak.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Lots of Switch games. Yoshi's Wooly World is garbage and Paper Mario: The Origami King stand out the most. Yoshi is a bit more consistently good than Paper Mario's, but they both sucked ass on Switch.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

Lots of Switch games. Yoshi's Wooly World is garbage and Paper Mario: The Origami King stand out the most. Yoshi is a bit more consistently good than Paper Mario's, but they both sucked ass on Switch.

Woolly World wasn’t on Switch. You’re thinking of Crafted World, which I agree was disappointing.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Woolly World wasn’t on Switch. You’re thinking of Crafted World, which I agree was disappointing.

Ah, right. Wooly World was good, Crafted World was really disappointing because it looked like it'd just be a direct sequel but nope.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Halo: Infinite.

That is all I wanted this year.

I don't give a shit about games this year.

I wasn't expecting a masterpiece but I expected actual fucking content at launch. Because the average normie can't be assed to stick to one game before buying six more, they won't wait six weeks to have any decent base of content available before falling back to Fortnite or GTA V. There will be the variety of sheep who play the 25% complete multiplayer, just because their online buddies who don't actually have fun doing so. It's quite clear why 343i implemented AI bot matchmaking, so they can wash their hands of any responsibility.

"Why are you complaining about Halo this time? When has engagement ever been important? Just play bot matchmaking and wait until the features are polished for release half a year down the road."

- some r/halo redditor