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I'd feel bad for the small sellers/modelers except they saw how absolutely turbogay TC was and still attempted to make product for it, so get wrekt.
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From what I can see, only Artillery Witch and Anointed are names used by Trench Crusade, but Diceverse's models are pretty distinct from the official models.
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the warlock is technically also pretty close, to art, though, i suppose its not quite chapterhouse and the tyranid invasion spore since art exists of it, but the model doesnt exist, and the hellhound doesnt either, as far as ive been seeing , not even in rules, it exists for the nurgle-esque plague faction, but a hellhound doesnt exist proper in their range at all, either text or model
The models are still live in STL form, so they clearly have an OK, but the AI niggerslop they got to enforce doesnt really give the etsy retards any leeway
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No. We have Bioshock Bigdaddy Terminator squads at home.
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If I had to guess I think the Hellhound might be a stand in for the War Wolf (it's even modeled on an I beam like it) and I'm guessing the Warlock was replaced with the Death Commando since it feels pretty similar.
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Good catch on the hellhound, the scale seemed off so I didn't really count it, but the beam detail matches, but they also have a commando proxy
The warlock AFAIK has no bespoke model from factory fortress yet
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Sorry, I meant it might have been replaced by the Commando by Factory Fortress since the lore for the Warlock seems to be "these guys are so super duper rare and can damn the souls of a thousand Christians per minute by existing on the same battlefield thanks to its sicknasty super satan powers" and the Commando has the same design elements of tall, lanky satanic super soldier as the Warlock.
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Makes sense, they were really fucking slow in their releases and the sudden bamboozle to plastic was the thing that ended up explaining why they kept most of the factions monopose in a game that encouraged mordheim weapon kitbashing.
I'm utterly curious on how sales are going for the currently released plastics, I still maintain that even something as disjointed as OPR probably has a better chance at the actual FLGS market than Troon Crusade, and apparently Konflict 47 is doing okay as far as alt history shit goes. They really chose the wrong time to try and forcefully pivot, OPR had people who were willing to preorder their plastic shit in droves, if OPR get their shipments out without issue its going to reflect poorly on TC and I'm going to be the first in line to laugh at them.
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On the one hand, they're filling a niche the company fucking refuses to do by actually releasing product for people to use for these games not being released out for people to play, and seemingly being run more incompetentky than Degenesis. On the other hand they are scalping these cattle and exploiting the fact TC can't run a fucking chicken coop, let alone a company.
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I mean you hit the real story which is the TC runners are utterly incompetent such that 3rd parties are a more reliable source of minis for their "game" that doesn't even has a finalized ruleset or lore (other than Muslims = Great, Euros = Bigotted Oppressors responsible for ending the world, and that somehow Aztecs flaying people alive and eating their hearts = Side of good) and all the butthurt in the world won't change that.
But I guess this like people making 3-D printed Pride-themed buttplugs in the "
...I need to work that motto a little, admittedly.
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AWWW SHIT. I CALLED IT, GUYS! I FUCKING CALLED IT!! IT'S HAPPENING!! IN ALMOST EXACTLY THE WAY I PREDICTED, BACK IN 2023!!
WIB TROONING OUT IN 2026! CONFIRMED!!
Well done, even including him involving some space marine bullshit in one way or another. Lets not get too excited though, back in 2023 the a-sexual soy was strong with this one. You look at them as a couple at any point in the past decade, and that "man" has never done a masculine thing in his life if he could avoid it. And the only things going on in that "relationship" with his life partner or whatever the fuck is a mutual autistic sharing of a couple nerd hobbies and the rent, as well as maybe occasionally getting pegged by her.
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Huge (233k subs) ex-40k animator/lore channel Janovich came out with an anti-trench crusade video, im currently around the middle and its a dry but thorough look at all the issues they've had with 3d models so far and Factory Fortress' incompetence at fixing it, alongside with a general highlight of how most of the team behind it were blustering, incompetent morons
edit: it was mostly that, i didnt expect a mention of the great de-chuddening and there was none, he dismisses it in the first minute or so but it was still pretty much a lowlight of their general missteps in managing the IP
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Reddit. as expected, has no real rebuttals and just goes "but janovich was always a clickbaiter, people in the comments are hecking chudds!" with no people saying who have watched the video
edit: it was mostly that, i didnt expect a mention of the great de-chuddening and there was none, he dismisses it in the first minute or so but it was still pretty much a lowlight of their general missteps in managing the IP
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Reddit. as expected, has no real rebuttals and just goes "but janovich was always a clickbaiter, people in the comments are hecking chudds!" with no people saying who have watched the video
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I just finished watching it and while typical, I agree with what Janovich said in the video,
So reddit being reddit. I looked at the thread and there was even a comment about how much more expensive GW is than Trench Crusade. 8 prussian whatevers for $50, $6.25 a model. GW, 10 space marines for $65, or $6.50 a model. GW guardsmen, $53 for 10, or $5.30 a model. And that's at full MSRP ignoring that I can easily shop around for 15% off online. Yet somehow GW is more expensive?
I'll even do them a favor by pointing out another company. AMG and Star Wars Legion. ARF trooper box, 8 minis, for $58 or $7.25 each. Clone trooper marksmen 11 minis, $55, $5 each. Range troopers, 7 minis for $50 or $7.14 each.
It's almost like TC, GW, and SW are priced roughly on par with eachother when you actually look at the shit. But they still want to beleive TC is cheaper? I can also find SW Legion at a 10-15% discount as well. Can't do that for TC. These people have no idea about anything within or around the hobby, they don't play shit, and are still jerking off TC even though they predictably fucked everyone still on board with their nonsense before even finishing fulfillment of kickstarter minis. They're weird corporate sycophants in a parasocial relationship with a company they want to pretend cares about them.
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even the GW skirmish game, killteam fairs pretty favourably, they're much more expensive kits, but, for the most part, they're one and done purchases with only a few needing a 2nd box to complete a roster or le "optimal" choices and most of the kits are better value per dollar, the faction they choose to have a plastic kit, the antioch prussians, are the cheapest faction points wise, so you'll have enough for the first game of 700 ducats, but will have to buy another box (which will have more elites that you have a limit on) or you'll have to stack on more equipment, which is funny, because afaik from my skimming of the reddit, Antioch is the one faction that benefits more from getting more bodies on the table than upgrading individual troops beyond the basics, which the assembly guide for the most part recommends (as seen below)
So, if the players buy the lone official box, they'll be stuck with a team that favours numbers, but has none, and are expensive to boot, with sub optimal builds that wont do well (afaik, i have no idea if its the same with the rework) New Antioch is the faction i see get the most spergery because its the easiest to kitbash for (just get your regular WW1/WW2 dudes, slather on some garish washes on them, make a cross out of sticks, and you're done), but they're the imperial guard of the setting, where you have to be clever with overwhelming amounts of basic dudes with shit shooting/fighting, with decent commanders that buff their mooks, and they arent event tough commanders for the game, afaik, Apparently the hell troopers are the easiest starter faction.
It's been a while since I had taken a look at the TC rules, and I knew they had wargear but differentiating between trench clubs and trench knives, while also needing to buy combat helmets on a per model basis(and then track all of this shit unless you're playing 100% WYSIWYG down to the fucking helmets) is absurd and further reinforces my hypothesis that most of the "fans" talking about Trench Crusade not only don't actually play it, but never played anything the hell else either.
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Dismissal of anything "Chud" related was the smart move. He stuck to the meat of the issue and got his point across without sounding like a mouth breathing mongoloid. Good video and a nice deconstruction of the issues people were having with the game and company currently.
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The equipment system and even some of the weapon special rules is pretty much a 1:1 of how Mordheim worked, difference is that Mordheim is a cult game that mainly had grogs playing it before the internet made it popular as an old school alternative to modern Warhammer
Compare the basic weapon list of core mordheim (disable every supplement besides "core") with a TC weapon list, some like the knives, shields and two handers have very similar rules or more or less do the same
If you just look at TC as just uber edgy soy Mordheim it all clicks, the creators took advantage of a little Mordheim renaissance when it comes to autists starting to play it and collecting 10+ years worth of rules into very handy websites and just stapled the art and setting to it.
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I know mordheim had crazy detailed equipment lists(and that TC just tried to copy a lot of it and ride a nostalgia train that turns out wasn't worth much), but it was also militias, mercenary bands, shit like that in a fantasy setting. Not parts of regular armies that wouldn't opt to send troops without helmets in the early 20th century with a centuries long ongoing conflict(I'm aware ww1 didn't start with everyone having helmets, but we're also talking about a setting with power armor and shit). That level of detail is fine in something like a TTRPG these days where you're tracking your own sheet, not a dozen at a time. This kind of shit is why battletech as well as it's doing in spite of not having a major update and multiple attempts to kill the franchise, can't grow at all.