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So what's your warband of choice? I fielded Witch Hunters just for their vibe, even made a little portable gallows as a terrain set piece for them (RIP my gallows, broken during the move into my trailer.)
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Skaven is my first love for the sheer numbers and variety of tactics on offer as a result.
Ostlanders with the original ‘must spend 50% of earnings on one item’ rule for hilariously dumb outcomes. Must go Jaeger-heavy to make them work.
Reiklanders for sheer firepower dominance, although I normally only field them if someone wants to be a jerk and play Undead or Carnival of Chaos.
Witch Hunters I like but the 12 model cap is rough and forces some hard choices in henchies.
I never play Carnival or Undead (too unfair against new players) and never liked Cult of the Possessed that much. Middenheim and Marienburg are just meh. Sisters are all right and perform well but I find them a little boring.
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I have heard alot about Mordheim but never played it. Can you recommend any good resources to look into?
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Broheim.net has everything you need. There’s plenty of Mordheim content on YouTube if you want to watch some introductory stuff.
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About as good I could manage was packing as many flagellants and doggos as feasible, though I still had to keep a couple of zealots for potential hero status'ing.
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You need Zealots to get bows. All others get crossbows which can’t move and shoot, so crossbowmen tend to look for an elevated static position to establish an area-denial firebase.
As a Skaven main, when facing Witch Hunters, I use my models’ smaller size, higher mobility and superior numbers to threaten their crossbowmen- ‘move and lose shooting, or stand and die’. Zealots are the Witch Hunters’ only source of mobile firepower.
I tend to start WH warbands with 2 flaggies, 2 zealots and 3 dogs. Facing a lot of Fear causing warbands, sacrifice a dog for another zealot with bow.
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And since Zealots ain't exactly stat monsters to say the least, they ain't all that reliable with them. Crossbows of course went to my standard witch hunters, the flags and the dogs doing the dirty melee work.
They're a pretty tough warband to use, and I'd be lying if I said I won more than I lost with em
I'd probably have had a better win/loss if I used the Marienburger band I built from the core box's mercenaries+an extra box of Empire Free Company, but they weren't nearly as fun to paint up.Slight confession time: I'm not very good at wargaming. I'm at the "Know what I'm doing" level, but no higher. I'm in this much more for the crafting aspect.
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Back in the day there were some autists that tried to make custom female cadians and they hawked it on a bunch of warhammer forums on guard boards/threads. It was funny to see them flounder.. unless you sent them money. They were hyper fixated on female guardsman and it completely fell apart.They most certainly all transitioned by now.
Trench crusade is not the first table top range created by autists that crashed and burned. It won’t be the last.
The fact they’re dinosaurs could make them worth carrying and selling. I bought my son lizard men just for the Dino kits.
Nice thing about historicals is you can still cross them over with some other systems still too. Ie pike and shotte can be easily used for Fantasy.
Opr won’t beat Warhammer at being Warhammer but it can fill a niche. I hope they didn’t screw it up because generally it’s better for more competition to exist. And in terms of miniature games, imo the more the merrier for clubs. I don’t care where someone else gets their minis from as long as they’re not a dooge and wear deodorant.
That may appeal to casual fans but it will hurt sales for the people that like the hobby side. There are a lot of people who buy the minis just to build and paint and don’t really play the game. I imagine retention and sales aren’t as high either when a game is printed towards casual fans. However, if there’s a lot of grass root support it can have a lot of longevity.
The biggest issue I have with opr is it’s too watered down. Personally I’d rather play 3rd/4th edition 40K over opr. I like having my choices.
With 10th I don’t hate having command points I just hate the way they butchered list building. Power levels were my least favorite aspect of 8th and 9th and the way they do points now it’s basically power levels with extra steps. The watering down of list building took a way a lot of the fun for me. There’s also no reason to take certain weapons, load outs, or upgrades anymore. You’d be an idiot to not take all of the upgrades or to take certain options. Also a lot of the kits have been watered down. Opr is basically doubling down on what I dislike about 10th. I know I’m not the only one that isn’t happy about the simplification and watering down of 40K.
Aren’t major events what helps the game to grow? If there’s no events what’s the point of the game existing? I’m not rooting for opr to fail there’s plenty of room for multiple games, but at times opr evangelists come across as cultists. They’re not as radical as troon crusaders but it’s a shame they have a self sabotaging mentality.
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At one time Squad Leader was the A-#1 Duke of New York gold standard for war games.
IIRC there was even a mech splatbook that used the tank rules, a splatbook for WW1, and a splatbook for Cold War/WW3.
I think, at one time, there was like 30 fucking boxed sets for it.
Well of course not, outside of retarded youtube thumbnails where "Is XXXXX new game the warhammer killer!" and "XXXX company has killed warhammer!" type shit.
Yes and no. Historicals exist, and they generally do so without reliance on events, although the audiences are tiny and the demographics for those games is small as well. The problem most people seem to have with "events" is eurofags stuck with WTC shit for 40k(that's where the blandest L shaped ruin spam at totally random angles comes from) like this
Where you're lucky if you even get to see the laser cut details for a sea of 100 tables, and maybe they'll randomly spraypaint some shit. You also get a bunch of morons that gnash their teeth assuming every "event" is a competitive tournament(these people are too stupid to look for narrative events, which exist even for 40k) and that people there will be "playing to win" as if these retards expect people showing up playing to lose. Not to mention that if you play more than once every couple of months, you may as well be some "tournament bro" because they only get a couple games in a year and thus can never figure out anything beyond shove model forward and roll dice.
But yes, having events at big conventions and even smaller shit at your local game store does in fact get people interested in games because
a: They can see other people actually play whichever game it is
b: Since this isn't MTG, you can generally see people playing the game and having fun
c: People can see outside of their small friend group, there are people playing other armies, or even the same armies but entirely different lists, and you can actually get some variety in opponents.
d: That different types of events other than basic competitive tournament also exist for a game
But never put it past a community for a game to sabotage themselves.
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My brother and his group ate Squad Leader up like groceries. Had a whole shelf of the shit. Only one I don't recall him having was the Cold War/WW3, I'd have wanted to try it since all I ever played of it was typical Soviets vs Germans (and I loved taking the chance on the sewer emergence table like a real gremlin).
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Got two games done.
First, my Possessed vs Undead. Took a Possessed with giant claw and tentacles so I’d have something to tackle the vampire, two zealots with bows and maces, three Darksouls with swords and maces, and a magister who’d rolled up ‘Eye of God’, with a sword and mace.
Scenario was ‘defend the find’ so it was my 7 dudes vs 11 Undead- 1 Vampire, 1 Necromancer, 2 Dregs, and a shit ton of ghouls.
First move was a bowman jumping down from a 3” drop, failing his I test, taking a S3 hit and going out of action.
My second dice rolling action was after I’d luckily been able to charge the Vampire with my possessed. Used the Magister to cast ‘Eye of God’ on the Possessed, rolled a 1 and took him OOA too. Routed and lost. Retired warband immediately.
Second game was Wyrdstone Hunt, Ostlanders against the same Undead. Did slightly better but some truly foul dice rolling and a Vampire charge into my leader saw my leader, one blood brother, and three ruffians OOA for one Dreg and one ghoul. Priest of Taal was MVP after Stag’s Leaping into the Dreg through a building and stabbing him in the head.
All OOA units recovered unharmed except for one Ruffian who I replaced. Priest got Earthshudder, one of the best spells in the game, the two Blood Brothers got new skills and I picked Fearsome for each, useful if you’re facing Undead. Gave my Elder and Blood Brothers bows for more mobile firepower. Undead player added 2 Direwolves to his band, which is bad news.
Had fun, although spending 5 melee combats being unable to inflict a wounding hit in the second game was supremely annoying, especially as opponent rolled criticals against me in response every time. But that’s Mordheim, baby!
OPR, wtf are you doing?
So it seems they're doing some kind of "collab" to get a big kickstarter of 53 new warbands for OPR together. Except normally for OPR you just put together your pile of models and then pick which army rules match what you've got(or not) and then use those. But now they're doing bespoke rules created by STL creators, and dumping 53 of them into the community in one go? May as well make up your own busted house rules since no one is ever going to be able to keep track of any of this shit.
He compares it to the OGL for D&D. The problem with this of course, is that a DM can just say "No" to any random third party bullshit at any time, it's also not a player vs player setting of a game(usually) anyway. Sure, I could use some malifaux minis to play against warmachine minis... and then get my shit wrecked because there was no consideration of being anywhere near the same power level and I'm supposed to just trust that my opponent isn't bullshitting me on rules.
If it were OPR adding another 20 generic no model factions that you could use to get rules closer to what you want for whatever 3d models you found online that would be fine. But this just sounds like a mess.
So it seems they're doing some kind of "collab" to get a big kickstarter of 53 new warbands for OPR together. Except normally for OPR you just put together your pile of models and then pick which army rules match what you've got(or not) and then use those. But now they're doing bespoke rules created by STL creators, and dumping 53 of them into the community in one go? May as well make up your own busted house rules since no one is ever going to be able to keep track of any of this shit.
He compares it to the OGL for D&D. The problem with this of course, is that a DM can just say "No" to any random third party bullshit at any time, it's also not a player vs player setting of a game(usually) anyway. Sure, I could use some malifaux minis to play against warmachine minis... and then get my shit wrecked because there was no consideration of being anywhere near the same power level and I'm supposed to just trust that my opponent isn't bullshitting me on rules.
If it were OPR adding another 20 generic no model factions that you could use to get rules closer to what you want for whatever 3d models you found online that would be fine. But this just sounds like a mess.
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Christ on a cracker, after a few days poking around Broheim, I want to build a Chapel Guard warband and to find someone I can actually reliably get Mordheim going again with.
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They've had community rule sets for a while now, a lot of them are pretty well balanced since there's formulas to determine about how much something should cost. Things really only get noticeably unbalanced when people make custom rules and the list builder flags armies that do that or ignore the point cost recommendations.
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they're technically balanced, but the issue is that now groups have to decide if those custom rules are good enough, i think the intention is decent if they just had a bunch of units that they list as compatible for existing OPR factions, but trying to soup them all into some having unique lists is going to cause headaches for autists in the long run.
OPR's community has some issues with some being unable to balance house rules or custom shit and having minor schisms that they bitch about in their discord, which is mostly not cancer but still retarded since its still a discord. So i have a feeling that depending on how this pans out it will either work without issue since its already balanced or people will bitch out and complain because its technically alot of items not part of the core game that have to be chosen at the discretion of each table.
The skirmish variant of their big wargame systems is also pretty mediocre, many smaller indie skirmish systems have better gameplay while being within the same realm of complexity, OPR's skirmish system is mostly built out of hacking the big wargame system into bits with some extra rules like knockout rolls and an all alone morale test like in Mordheim. But since they convert the big wargame units into individual skirmish game units then fuckiness happens, some units only have 1 attack that hits on +4s or even +5s, for the most part everything can be one shot. And Morale can end games too quickly depending on situations. They were going to rework it into a more functional system with more unique and nuanced rules but they were saving that for their next big update. which iirc will come around September.
Atleast if you arent a telegram fag who just pirates all STLs they come across then its a nice enough deal, the only STL library i own is Monstrous Encounter's entire library because the poor bastard was having a rough time and pretty much offered everything for 28 bucks to finance funeral costs, who knows if that was true but it was pretty much 100+ 80s warhammer and DnD stls for a pittance.
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I'm aware they've had the community rule sets, he even mentions that in the video. But there's a difference between having a few, and then suddenly shitting 50 into the community all at once. And if they aren't actually meaningfully different then it's simply an illusion of a bunch of choice.
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The 50 new rulessets have weird schroedinger's blessing from OPR as well - they aren't put out by OPR or tested by them but are part of a community drop. So its not even as simple as saying "no 3rd party splats" or "This book is off limits", there's now pretty much more community content than official content, and its not created or controlled by OPR but uses their system so now when you go to try find a game good fucking luck as That Guy pulls out his special trans* liberation army.
Anyway, this is why I told you faggots we don't suffer the furry to live and maybe next time you'll listen.
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I would actually want to do one game, just one, to say I did it and can tell it as a horror tale...