Tabletop Roleplaying Games (D&D, Pathfinder, CoC, ETC.)

[CrunkLord420]

I distinctly remember the criticism is that all the -borg games are utterly hollow and facile, not that they are "woke". The fact that CY_BORG is also full of commie gobbledegook is a secondary problem to the fact that it is barely a game at all.

There's nothing woke about the CY_BORG book beyond the trivially ignorable Rule #0. Even their third party licensing agreement doesn't technically forbid chudisms. They put a little "please don't be a chud" at the bottom of the page but it doesn't appear to be actually part of the license.

Homebrewing in progress, converting to 2d6, probably.

 

[Wallace]

But I will also say:
Its one of the things I like about B/X and that drives homes Gygax's advice about "give players as much time to react as their characters would". 3.5 and above, there is too much a character could be doing, and you almost can't without making combat the bad sort of stressful.
With B/X combat is much more freeform, with mostly coming down to what weapon or spell you're going to be using on what target.

Do you ever use a shot clock for players taking their turns in combat?

 

[CrunkLord420]

But don't worry guys, GURPS isn't wo-

Q: You mentioned "sensitivity." What does that mean?
A: It means that, when referring to a group of people, we replaced outsiders' labels for them – often slurs – with terms that members of the group prefer. Where we had used terms for groups of people to refer to negative deeds, events, and situations, we found other words. And we took a firmer stance against slavery, torture, and other horrors.
Q: Why did you revise for sensitivity? Was that not a lot of work for something most people do not care about?
A: Apparently we disagree on how many people care about this in 2026. We do. We wrote it as we would write it if we were starting afresh this year. The one exception is the replacement of "he" with "they" and so on. The accumulated effect of that change would have altered too many page endings.

https://www.sjgames.com/gurps/4erfaq/

Apparently "Slave Mentality" trait was a bit too problematic for them. The only reason they didn't switch to gender neutral pronouns was because it was too much work

 

[LovisXVI]

But don't worry guys, GURPS isn't wo-

https://www.sjgames.com/gurps/4erfaq/

Apparently "Slave Mentality" trait was a bit too problematic for them. The only reason they didn't switch to gender neutral pronouns was because it was too much work

... okay? Steve Jackson Games being a bunch of libtards is a known phenomenon. However, unlike the -borg games, GURPS is still an actual game that you can play. And before you can even think that I am running interference for GURPS:

I would rather blow my head off than use GURPS.

I would rather die than play GURPS

 

[Ghostse]

Do you ever use a shot clock for players taking their turns in combat?

No. But when people are waffling for too long, I will intervene.

If its a new player, I will drop GM kayfabe and suggest things they might want to do or help them figure out their options.
If its an experienced player "Ok, your characters brain froze and locked up, you're going last this round, try to figure it out by end of turn order or you'll skip this round."

There's nothing woke about the CY_BORG book beyond the trivially ignorable Rule #0. Even their third party licensing agreement doesn't technically forbid chudisms. They put a little "please don't be a chud" at the bottom of the page but it doesn't appear to be actually part of the license.

They do forbid chudding though. They have said they won't promote insufficiently woke fag-BORG material, and I recall restrict use of some IP assets, like graphics/logos,
That is, TotalNiggerDeath-Borg will not be promoted on their site or listed on their official "third party publishers" list, and while I can mention in my kickstarter it uses/is compatible with the "AIDS-BORG" rules, my Minstrel Show Artbook-with-some-random-tables can't use the "Mork-Borg" logo.

I distinctly remember the criticism is that all the -borg games are utterly hollow and facile, not that they are "woke". The fact that CY_BORG is also full of commie gobbledegook is a secondary problem to the fact that it is barely a game at all.

Pretty much this; the game is woke, the creators hate you and want to see you broke, homeless, and your children rape, but that's largely secondary to the fact the product is garbage and the books are just artbooks but for drugged out retards who uinronically read zines.

 

[Adamska]

It also doesn't help that the art assets that they use aren't even that creative. It's mostly just repurposed images that they find online that they run through like one or two color filters. Then they usually slap in one or two really shittily designed pages that fuck with the text just to pretend to be wacky.

And that laziness is something that these idiots completely brag about in their undeserved awards.

The only thing I remember worth anything in the Borg stuff that I've read are their dungeons and even then it's just okay.

 

[MazonLabs Recruitment Rep]

Should I be glad I stuck to my 3E Gurps collection?

For real I'm gonna try Traveller but I'm basically throwing out the entire setting because it's FUCKING LAME AND FURRY SHIT (90% of all TTRPG books)

Just go find some old Star Frontiers set (NOT THE NEW ONE, IT'S LITERALLY ALT RIGHT WOKE) or even Space Opera at this point.

 

[The Bogwater Flows On]

All RPG settings are secondary to MY GLORIOUS VISION (Guys I'm like for real retarded. I just like making my own lore ... because I am retarded)

 

[Flipendo]

Just go find some old Star Frontiers set (NOT THE NEW ONE, IT'S LITERALLY ALT RIGHT WOKE)

Can you explain what you mean by "alt right woke"?

 

[Judge Dredd]

I am reading "unoptimized" NOT "retarded" action.

PC is menaced by a gangster. Grabs a nearby heavy object and hits him with it.
GM: "Should've gone for a knife as it would've been more efficient for your stat block. I'll roll knife damage for you instead of improvised weapon..."

I'm gonna try Traveller but I'm basically throwing out the entire setting because it's FUCKING LAME

Based. Finally someone who has some taste-

AND FURRY SHIT (90% of all TTRPG books)

...oh. You're retarded.

...does that mean I'm retarded too?


But seriously. No, I don't really hate Traveller's setting. It's just bland and uninteresting. I mentioned way back in the thread that I dislike the popular interpretation of it. The players never get to touch any of the cool sci-fi stuff. Instead they should be flying around in a barely functional rust bucket losing money every adventure until the debt collectors turn up and push their shit in. It's the same energy as the DnD grogs that claim every game has to be gongfarmers dying horrible deaths instead of heroes killing dragons.

Same with the "furry shit". I like dragon born, I think they're cool.

Though since you're new to this, I'm curious what you think about settings like Planescape, Darksun, Spelljammer, and Eberron. Asking because I see people shit on modern settings for "freakshit" and "snowflake" character options, but those same people then turn around and tell me about their planescale minotaur or darksun bug man without a hint of irony.

If its a new player, I will drop GM kayfabe and suggest things they might want to do or help them figure out their options.
If its an experienced player "Ok, your characters brain froze and locked up, you're going last this round, try to figure it out by end of turn order or you'll skip this round."

That's genius. I'm using that.

 

[CrunkLord420]

they should be flying around in a barely functional rust bucket losing money every adventure until the debt collectors turn up and push their shit in

wow it's literally me

The new space trucker module looks cool: https://www.mongoosepublishing.com/products/cluster-truck

They do forbid chudding though. They have said they won't promote insufficiently woke fag-BORG material, and I recall restrict use of some IP assets, like graphics/logos,
That is, TotalNiggerDeath-Borg will not be promoted on their site or listed on their official "third party publishers" list, and while I can mention in my kickstarter it uses/is compatible with the "AIDS-BORG" rules, my Minstrel Show Artbook-with-some-random-tables can't use the "Mork-Borg" logo.

According to my interpretation of their license you are allowed to use the "COMPATIBLE WITH" logo regardless of the subject matter of your content. Promotion is something entirely different. I don't consider the two footer notes below the license to be part of the license. The NFT note is redundant with the actual license. The tone thing is weakly and informally written.

 

[MazonLabs Recruitment Rep]

Can you explain what you mean by "alt right woke"?

It's A&N style circle jerking with racism. Not racism as defined by Tumblr, legit shit.

Of course, if you LIKE something badly formatted that's loaded with A&N politics, by all means, find you a copy.

 

[Flipendo]

Same with the "furry shit". I like dragon born, I think they're cool.

Asking because I see people shit on modern settings for "freakshit" and "snowflake" character options, but those same people then turn around and tell me about their planescale minotaur or darksun bug man without a hint of irony.

As a fellow dragonborn enjoyer, I figure I can throw my own two cents in on this subject:

In my opinion, races like dragonborn and minotaurs are not furry (or at least not on a similar level) for a few reasons:

1. They're not a popular furry race, as opposed to dogs/wolves/foxes/etc, which are probably the images conjured when "fursona" enters your mind.
2. They typically aren't portrayed in an uwu style, which is also commonly associated with furries.
3. These races aren't typically sexualised, thereby dodging the bulk of why people dislike furries to begin with.

As for the ephemeral "freakshit", I interpret (good-faith) versions of this to be either overly edgy or self-indulgent selections that are chosen to stand out at the expense of coherence with the setting or tone of the campaign, though this can also happen just as much (if not more) in the character concept as opposed to any specific race choice. Naturally, though, any non-Tolkien race will look odd in a grog's grimdark mud farmer campaign.

 

[The Bogwater Flows On]

As a fellow dragonborn enjoyer, I figure I can throw my own two cents in on this subject:

There are dozens of us! I swear!

 

[AnOminous]

Might have asked this before. What do you guys think of taking unoptimized actions that are appropriate to the character or scene?

I don't know. Works sometimes.

I've just kind of wondered whether anyone else has had a character do something like cast "Call Azathoth." I mean, you did WHAT?

 

[Judge Dredd]

Can you explain what you mean by "alt right woke"?

(Missed this)

I assume he means the woke right?
Words don't mean things any more, but my interpretation.In culture war shit, woke right refers to the conservatives who have a problem with fun, and will use the same arguments against the same things as the woke left does, but with god/tradition as their justification.

These races aren't typically sexualised, thereby dodging the bulk of why people dislike furries to begin with.

I'm confident I could derail the thread by asking "4e dragonborn tits, yay or nay?".

Spoiler

The correct answer is yay, obviously.

 

[Ghostse]

It's A&N style circle jerking with racism. Not racism as defined by Tumblr, legit shit.

Can you provide some examples? This sounds hilarious.

Galactic Nigger Death.
-Borg. *excited soyjak*

In my opinion, races like dragonborn and minotaurs are not furry (or at least not on a similar level) for a few reasons:

I have never had a Dragon-born player attempt to take me to their magical realm.
they are also drawn/depicted/described as being brave and honorable warriors, so it makes the chaotic-neutral retards pick another race (which is always tabaxi)

 

[demicolon]

Imagine GMing a campaign for a party of Kender thieves.

 

[Henri Barbusse]

Imagine GMing a campaign for a party of Kender thieves.

That seems better than having just one kender character in an otherwise regular party.

 

[demicolon]

That seems better than having just one kender character in an otherwise regular party.

Sounds to me like the plot of Kindergarten Cop.