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That reads to me like just calling them whores. They're actually worse than whores because they insist on dragging their kids into their terminally online whoring.
Careercow Taylor Lorenz - Crybully "journalist", self-appointed Internet Hall Monitor, professional victim, stalks teenagers for e-clout
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Knowing she has a book out was depressing enough but to actually see it on a shelf through a shop front window drove home the realization, with mounting gloom, that some people will actually buy it. Not many, God willing. But still, even one person is too many. And what a stupid title. Huff your farts a little deeper, Tay-Sachs.
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Fame, influence, power of who?
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And who can forget the heartwarming collective action that occurred when kids around the world decided to protest AIDS and protect citizens from going into contaminated online pools?
Taylor has stamped her foot at every one of these negative reviews, claiming she's not supporting this behavior, just documenting it. But when all her sentences are written in such breathless corporatespeak, she's not fooling anybody.
Taylor knows she can't hang as a real influencer, so she has to get her worth by being their hypewoman.
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The scions of billionaires. Like this cunt.
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@Boston Brand do you know how well Taylor’s book sold? Can’t imagine it’s too many people. The only reason why anyone recognizes her name is because of something stupid she did. Even the few friends and allies she might have aren’t the type to buy her book.
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I bet it’s sold well. It’ll see a bump over the holidays. Boomers will give it to their daughters/granddaughters for Christmas as a lazy signal that they’re with it.
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How long will it be until "Extremely Online" will be found in those discount bookshops that have tables full of closeout specials for $0.99 each?
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Book stores are a waste of retail space. They’re generally cheaper to download, and pretty much the only reason you’d buy physical copies is if you want to stock a little book shelf somewhere to look like a smart person. The book is equivalent to a crocheted pussy hat
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I initially wanted to read some of it, so I went looking for a PDF file wondering if anyone uploaded (don't think so, at least not yet). And I found reviews for the book (price ranging from $15 to $22 btw which is average if not a bit overpriced for a book these days) on goodreads. While a lot of people use it, even fucking Amazon having integration for it, it is still a fraction of whoever would be reading and buying from Taylor, I still think it's a good representation of how the book was received.
And how was it received? You can see for yourself (A). The book, it seems, is the definition of mid. Sitting at 3.69 out of 5 stars, I went looking at several reviews ranging from either short 5 star reviews to 3 star critiques. The first review by someone named Madison says, and I'll spoiler this
"Sparse, dry, and ultimately unfulfilling".
Another review which even calls the book "undeniably well researched" said that it couldn't hold their attention. Here's that full review for context
Another mainly positive review says that the book "fizzles a bit on the way out"
So with 3 cherry picked reviews besides 5 star dickriding, what can we take away from this? That even people who LIKED the book find that it struggles to keep their attention or that certain parts of it are not informative enough. So, the book fucking sucks at what it's trying to do. Taylor's only thing that she excels at seems to be just witch hunts and lying.
One last post from Goodreads for the road. This time of someone criticizing her for being intentionally dishonest. And conveniently, a good example of why you should archive your shit.
TLDR, this user calls out Taylor for trying to sell her book using Musk and Tucker as scapegoats. I.E "Stick it to these chuds who tried to censor me by buying my book!" while not disclosing that Taylor's publisher, world famous Simon & Schuster otherwise known as S&S, has published books either written by or related to Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson. So by giving Taylor money, you're funding the same people that assumedly Taylor claims to hate and that this user does hate.
And how was it received? You can see for yourself (A). The book, it seems, is the definition of mid. Sitting at 3.69 out of 5 stars, I went looking at several reviews ranging from either short 5 star reviews to 3 star critiques. The first review by someone named Madison says, and I'll spoiler this
The subtitle of this book (“The Untold Story of…”) is hilarious. I hope it goes without saying that any story about the rise of social media and influencer culture is already extremely, exhaustingly told.
That aside, I don’t really know what need this book is trying to fill. People will buy it because Taylor Lorenz is a journalist with a large online following who has built a career around knowing what’s happening on the Internet, but in terms of its actual informational utility…it doesn’t really have any. The first several chapters are basically like “here’s how Facebook started, here’s how Youtube started,” etcetc, all of which has been told with more depth and detail in 1000 other places. It gets more interesting when she starts talking about Vine and the shift to video, but then the pacing falls completely apart. She’ll describe the whole rise of a particular subculture or site in the middle of one chapter, then backtrack and tell the story again at the start of the next chapter. There’s an entire chapter on mommy bloggers that feels completely disconnected from the rest of the narrative. Part of the problem is that Lorenz doesn’t really weave any connective ideas between chapters, it’s just a more or less linear narrative, so you’re sort of left to intuit how the different pieces fit together.
And then there are a few times when she does give some editorial perspective, but it feels oversimplified or off-base. For example, she says Tumblr’s popularity waned because the site didn’t “innovate.” Uh, what? Literally 0 mention of the explicit content bans that drove power users away. Tumblr users (and Instagram users, and Snapchat users, and on and on) BEG sites NOT to innovate, which usually just means ugly and useless layout or algorithmic changes to maximize ads. She also makes no mention of Zuckerberg’s disastrous “pivot to video" mandate, except in broad, neutral terms with no mention of its aftermath. I know there’s no way to cover everything, but these moves had MASSIVE impacts on the social internet, so to say your book is a history of that environment and then not even mention these things feels wild to me.
Sparse, dry, and ultimately unfulfilling: that’s my ultimate takeaway here. Readers with less familiarity with the subject matter might find it of more interest.
That aside, I don’t really know what need this book is trying to fill. People will buy it because Taylor Lorenz is a journalist with a large online following who has built a career around knowing what’s happening on the Internet, but in terms of its actual informational utility…it doesn’t really have any. The first several chapters are basically like “here’s how Facebook started, here’s how Youtube started,” etcetc, all of which has been told with more depth and detail in 1000 other places. It gets more interesting when she starts talking about Vine and the shift to video, but then the pacing falls completely apart. She’ll describe the whole rise of a particular subculture or site in the middle of one chapter, then backtrack and tell the story again at the start of the next chapter. There’s an entire chapter on mommy bloggers that feels completely disconnected from the rest of the narrative. Part of the problem is that Lorenz doesn’t really weave any connective ideas between chapters, it’s just a more or less linear narrative, so you’re sort of left to intuit how the different pieces fit together.
And then there are a few times when she does give some editorial perspective, but it feels oversimplified or off-base. For example, she says Tumblr’s popularity waned because the site didn’t “innovate.” Uh, what? Literally 0 mention of the explicit content bans that drove power users away. Tumblr users (and Instagram users, and Snapchat users, and on and on) BEG sites NOT to innovate, which usually just means ugly and useless layout or algorithmic changes to maximize ads. She also makes no mention of Zuckerberg’s disastrous “pivot to video" mandate, except in broad, neutral terms with no mention of its aftermath. I know there’s no way to cover everything, but these moves had MASSIVE impacts on the social internet, so to say your book is a history of that environment and then not even mention these things feels wild to me.
Sparse, dry, and ultimately unfulfilling: that’s my ultimate takeaway here. Readers with less familiarity with the subject matter might find it of more interest.
Another review which even calls the book "undeniably well researched" said that it couldn't hold their attention. Here's that full review for context
This was undeniably well researched and written, however, it just did not hold my attention. The subject matter is interesting and relevant, so I was surprised that it didn't really hook me. Maybe it's a matter of it being the wrong book for the current time. I am so consumed with anxiety and sadness over the Israel-Hamas war that I cannot concentrate on reading anything beyond the news and what I would affectionately call, "literary fluff". All in all, I would say, don't be put off by my three stars, as it is not a bad book, but it felt too long and maybe too in depth in certain areas that just weren't that engaging for me.
Another mainly positive review says that the book "fizzles a bit on the way out"
I really liked this book as a mini-history on the early days of influencer culture and how we got here. The first 60% if fantastic, the book fizzles a bit on the way out. I wish the author talked more about why some of this stuff is important and news worthy and what it means for us moving forward. I wish she spent more time on the disparities within influencer culture as well since that is so well documented and impacts the entire culture. Overall really good.
So with 3 cherry picked reviews besides 5 star dickriding, what can we take away from this? That even people who LIKED the book find that it struggles to keep their attention or that certain parts of it are not informative enough. So, the book fucking sucks at what it's trying to do. Taylor's only thing that she excels at seems to be just witch hunts and lying.
One last post from Goodreads for the road. This time of someone criticizing her for being intentionally dishonest. And conveniently, a good example of why you should archive your shit.
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November 13, 2023
not even out yet and already hypocritical af
https://twitter.com/JSto/status/15655...
what a shame: and I do mean shame
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[edit/update: the author removed her original tweet that was embedded in the link I posted above during the pre-order period (which is fine: people on Twitter can and should of course do with their posts as they wish). But let’s be clear about my comment, which is meant to be highly critical and is absolutely about experience and expertise. Contextually, her post was an attempt to promote her book by pivoting off of the heinous way Tucker Carlson has harassed her, which would be admirable if her book wasn’t an S&S published book —
so let’s be clear here:
- S&S also cutting deals with and distributing J6 figures
- S&S has an official Tucker Carlson page
- S&S made him an American bestseller
i.e. they have the same publisher
the profit goes to the same publisher
their paydays and promotion come from the same publisher
the author has since also attempted to drive sales of this book via Twitter in response to Musk’s rude and ridiculous comments about her, but guess which publisher is currently laundering Musk into normalized spaces and further intellectualizing the myths built around him? — yup, you know it: S&S
hence my response, which the author has since asked me to remove thinking that I’m in error regarding my original post, which is not the case, and this update clarifies that]
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not even out yet and already hypocritical af
https://twitter.com/JSto/status/15655...
what a shame: and I do mean shame
2022
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[edit/update: the author removed her original tweet that was embedded in the link I posted above during the pre-order period (which is fine: people on Twitter can and should of course do with their posts as they wish). But let’s be clear about my comment, which is meant to be highly critical and is absolutely about experience and expertise. Contextually, her post was an attempt to promote her book by pivoting off of the heinous way Tucker Carlson has harassed her, which would be admirable if her book wasn’t an S&S published book —
so let’s be clear here:
- S&S also cutting deals with and distributing J6 figures
- S&S has an official Tucker Carlson page
- S&S made him an American bestseller
i.e. they have the same publisher
the profit goes to the same publisher
their paydays and promotion come from the same publisher
the author has since also attempted to drive sales of this book via Twitter in response to Musk’s rude and ridiculous comments about her, but guess which publisher is currently laundering Musk into normalized spaces and further intellectualizing the myths built around him? — yup, you know it: S&S
hence my response, which the author has since asked me to remove thinking that I’m in error regarding my original post, which is not the case, and this update clarifies that]
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You actually own physical copies. Digital copies are just glorified rentals that the DRM can revoke and delete from your library at any time.
E-books trade your right to private property for convenience. And I'm saying this as someone who uses Audible and Kindle.
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Right, and I also own some few books with sentimental value. They get damaged from actually reading them, and the paper they’re printed on contains acid that will kill them over time.
Modern physical books are also victims of planned obsolescence
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Nothing lasts forever. It's called the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
That's not a good reason to surrender to the Own-Nothing-And-Be-Happy lifestyle where everything is a subscription service.
A book that's on acidic paper will still last longer than an electronic device that will be obsolete and in the landfill 5 years after its release.
Hard copies are especially good to own in the case of controversial books in the crosshairs of the Thought Police. That's why I bought all three volumes of The Gulag Archepelago last year. I assumed Solzhenitsyn becoming an acquaintance of Putin later in life would mean his work would get banhammered.
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Nobody made or makes physical books with the intent that they would physically fall apart years or decades later, what a galaxy brained business plan you absolute loon
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Calibre and DeDRM can strip the copy protection, then you can do whatever you want with them. You can (and should) store an entire library on a MicroSD.
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In other words, like having sex with Tay Tay.
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How the fuck is the story "untold" if you are online it's inescapable and obvious.
She hasn't written a book about how the USA government colludes with corporate overlords to control the Internet and human interaction, opinions and communication. In Europe and Asia the governments at least just do it openly and directly. She believes if only all the proper thinking, woke, corporate overlords had absolute control over information and the ability to silence all disagreement and dissent, the world would be a much better place.
Taylor, and her ilk, would have been a very eager Political Commissars in 1940's Russia. It's a personality type that has afflicted humanity for eons - they plague religions and politics like hungry, eager ticks.