Tech you miss/ new tech trends you hate - ok boomers

[Cavalier Cipolla]

Not sure if this is related to this thread's topic, but, a while back, someone mentioned in some other thread that if you like low level asm programming that you're some autistic sperg, possibly even a troon in the making. I actually disagree with that. I think the Pytards, who think Python is the best programming language ever that can be used for anything, are the real autistic spergs, and possibly troons. They call themselves computer geniuses for writing a few lines of code that just call some fancy library, that obviously wasn't written by them. There's so many pages on Instagram that suck off Python's creator and that Danish clown. But the dumbest thing I ever saw was this "Hello World!" comparison meme. Let's pretend the spelling errors didn't exist.
Whoever made this, never saw actual asm code. Overall, the Python community is seriously plagued by these wannabe computer geniuses that are probably non binary (no pun intended) and have a meltdown when misgendered. And if they see asm code they get panic attacks. I wouldn't be surprised if IT companies hired them as diversity hire as well.

 

[AnOminous]

This kind of thing sometimes makes me question if the move from gas to electric is less about the environment and more about getting rid of reliable gas tools and getting people onto unreliable electric tools to make them spend more.

It's about keeping our own environment okay while letting chinks wallow in literal seas of toxic filth.

 

[Zero0]

Youtube asking for you ID to verify your age due to some new EU law is pretty annoying.

 

[Robotic Richard Simmons]

I despise glossy black plastics. If dust so much as falls on it you end up with a scratch. Example:

 

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Holy shit, electric tools are complete fucking garbage:

-I went through two electric weed wackers back around a decade ago. One ran plugged in, one ran on batteries both had their electric motor burn out. The plug-in one was a cheapo from Canadian Tire anyway, but the battery one was an expensive job from Home Depot. I bought a little gas featherlite off Kijiji for like $20 in 2013. It was several years old then and it still works perfect.

-I have a little 40cc gas chainsaw I bought in 2008, still works like the day I bought it. My father bought a cordless electric one and it didn't even make it through the birch tree he was trying to cut down in his yard before it broke(He cut a wedge out first. This wasn't due to the chain being pinched. He's not retarded.) He borrowed my saw to cut it down and then got a new gas one himself.

The latest happening that triggered this post:

-I bought a Ryobi 40v cordless mower back in 2019 to replace a 30-year old gas mower that was a hand-me-down from my grandfather and was starting to rust through. I've been storing the battery inside the house out of the cold and keeping it topped up, the battery is gone anyway. New battery is $250. I can get a brand new gas mower for $200 and that's probably what I'm going to do.

So there's a clear pattern here of gas tools lasting several decades, while electric ones make it 2-3 years tops.

Who is this shit made for? Once they finally outlaw the sale of new two-stroke engines I might kill myself.

How is this better for the environment? It's worse for the environment to constantly manufacture this shit that breaks than the small amount of carbon released by small two-stroke engines. This kind of thing sometimes makes me question if the move from gas to electric is less about the environment and more about getting rid of reliable gas tools and getting people onto unreliable electric tools to make them spend more.

But Ammurricans MUST be able to run leaf blowers 24/7. So to reduce pollution from this totally necessary activity, all tools must be changed from gas to electric.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Not sure if this is related to this thread's topic, but, a while back, someone mentioned in some other thread that if you like low level asm programming that you're some autistic sperg, possibly even a troon in the making. I actually disagree with that. I think the Pytards, who think Python is the best programming language ever that can be used for anything, are the real autistic spergs, and possibly troons. They call themselves computer geniuses for writing a few lines of code that just call some fancy library, that obviously wasn't written by them. There's so many pages on Instagram that suck off Python's creator and that Danish clown. But the dumbest thing I ever saw was this "Hello World!" comparison meme. Let's pretend the spelling errors didn't exist.
Whoever made this, never saw actual asm code. Overall, the Python community is seriously plagued by these wannabe computer geniuses that are probably non binary (no pun intended) and have a meltdown when misgendered. And if they see asm code they get panic attacks. I wouldn't be surprised if IT companies hired them as diversity hire as well.

I taught myself 68000 ASM to scratch my retro-computing itch. A hello world in same for, say, the Atari ST, would go something like this:

helloworld: move.l #meh,-(SP)
move.w #9,-(SP)
trap #1
addq.l #6,SP
move.w #0,-(SP)
trap #1

meh: dc.b "Hello world!",0

A sperg is me, I know.

EDIT: They would definitely get panic attacks when in 68K the command to call a system function is "trap."

 

[Kosher Dill]

the command to call a system function is "trap."

That's gay.

 

[Cavalier Cipolla]

I taught myself 68000 ASM to scratch my retro-computing itch. A hello world in same for, say, the Atari ST, would go something like this:

helloworld: move.l #meh,-(SP)
move.w #9,-(SP)
trap #1
addq.l #6,SP
move.w #0,-(SP)
trap #1

meh: dc.b "Hello world!",0

A sperg is me, I know.

EDIT: They would definitely get panic attacks when in 68K the command to call a system function is "trap."

Here's what some other cancer Pytard meme where you write sorry 100 times would look like in 6502 asm:
ldy #0
lda ppustatus
lda #$20
sta ppuaddr
lda #$00
sta ppuaddr
sorry:
lda #'S'
sta ppudata
lda #'o'
sta ppudata
lda #'r'
sta ppudata
lda #'r'
sta ppudata
lda #'y'
iny
cpy #100
bne sorry
infloop: jmp infloop

I couldn't be bothered to add some extra code that increments ppuaddr by 32 after each sorry so it goes to the next line, but the pytards wouldn't notice it anyways. And of course, let's assume you have the ASCII table pre-built in the CHR ROM.
Of course, the text formatting is completely fucked, but I believe you get the idea.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Here's what some other cancer Pytard meme where you write sorry 100 times would look like in 6502 asm:
ldy #0
lda ppustatus
lda #$20
sta ppuaddr
lda #$00
sta ppuaddr
sorry:
lda #'S'
sta ppudata
lda #'o'
sta ppudata
lda #'r'
sta ppudata
lda #'r'
sta ppudata
lda #'y'
iny
cpy #100
bne sorry
infloop: jmp infloop

I couldn't be bothered to add some extra code that increments ppuaddr by 32 after each sorry so it goes to the next line, but the pytards wouldn't notice it anyways. And of course, let's assume you have the ASCII table pre-built in the CHR ROM.
Of course, the text formatting is completely fucked, but I believe you get the idea.

100 Sorries in 68K:

apologia: move.w #100-1,d7
move.l #meh,-(SP)
move.w #9,-(SP)
trap #1
addq.l #6,SP
dbra d7.apologia
move.w #0,-(SP)
trap #1

meh: "Sorry",0

I would follow this up with a 99 Bottles of Beer but I can't remember how to turn an integer into a string in 68K off hand without just brute-forcing it with a load of string data individually labelled and a jump table. That would do it in words rather than numbers which would be pretty nifty, but still. I generally don't do ASM for things like that where a high level language or even C would be easier (I attempted to program GEM, the ST's GUI, in assembly once and I almost gave myself an aneurysm) and reserve the assembler for speed critical stuff. Like podging the blitter, or number crunching, or suchlike.

 

[Cavalier Cipolla]

100 Sorries in 68K:

apologia: move.w #100-1,d7
move.l #meh,-(SP)
move.w #9,-(SP)
trap #1
addq.l #6,SP
dbra d7.apologia
move.w #0,-(SP)
trap #1

meh: "Sorry",0

I would follow this up with a 99 Bottles of Beer but I can't remember how to turn an integer into a string in 68K off hand without just brute-forcing it with a load of string data individually labelled and a jump table. That would do it in words rather than numbers which would be pretty nifty, but still. I generally don't do ASM for things like that where a high level language or even C would be easier (I attempted to program GEM, the ST's GUI, in assembly once and I almost gave myself an aneurysm) and reserve the assembler for speed critical stuff. Like podging the blitter, or number crunching, or suchlike.

Well, you could give ASCII the middle finger and give 0-9 numbers 0-9 entries in the pattern table. Could save you some cycles by not needing to do addition. And divide by 10 and use the modulo which is the upper word IIRC. Also, it is bold to assume the ST has a blitter. Pretty sure there's a reason ST to Amiga conversions were so dookie.
But for GUI stuff, C is indeed better, and it was actually called an "application language" in Computer Chronicles IIRC. For me tho, since I am gonna do game console stuff, asm is probably better.
Also, addq.l is a thing? I thought it was just addq.
Edit: here's another of those memes I mentioned. I don't see a programming legend, I just see a Danish clown with glasses.
For a bonus, I fixed the meme with an actual programming legend, unfortunately a late programming legend (R.I.P Terry).
When he didn't ramble about the CIA glow in the darks and some God stuff, he did make some really informative videos, in some of which he showcased legitimate upgrades in HolyC over GCC. Linus does sperg and talk shit a lot, but Terry pulled a reverse Uno and talked shit about Linus, which was quite amusing, in a good way.

 

[Toolbox]

Holy shit, electric tools are complete fucking garbage:

-I went through two electric weed wackers back around a decade ago. One ran plugged in, one ran on batteries both had their electric motor burn out. The plug-in one was a cheapo from Canadian Tire anyway, but the battery one was an expensive job from Home Depot. I bought a little gas featherlite off Kijiji for like $20 in 2013. It was several years old then and it still works perfect.

-I have a little 40cc gas chainsaw I bought in 2008, still works like the day I bought it. My father bought a cordless electric one and it didn't even make it through the birch tree he was trying to cut down in his yard before it broke(He cut a wedge out first. This wasn't due to the chain being pinched. He's not retarded.) He borrowed my saw to cut it down and then got a new gas one himself.

The latest happening that triggered this post:

-I bought a Ryobi 40v cordless mower back in 2019 to replace a 30-year old gas mower that was a hand-me-down from my grandfather and was starting to rust through. I've been storing the battery inside the house out of the cold and keeping it topped up, the battery is gone anyway. New battery is $250. I can get a brand new gas mower for $200 and that's probably what I'm going to do.

So there's a clear pattern here of gas tools lasting several decades, while electric ones make it 2-3 years tops.

Who is this shit made for? Once they finally outlaw the sale of new two-stroke engines I might kill myself.

How is this better for the environment? It's worse for the environment to constantly manufacture this shit that breaks than the small amount of carbon released by small two-stroke engines. This kind of thing sometimes makes me question if the move from gas to electric is less about the environment and more about getting rid of reliable gas tools and getting people onto unreliable electric tools to make them spend more.

Might just be better to buy random chinese garbage at that point, because they manufacture all of these tools anyway and it's way cheaper to purchase directly from them. If we're going to get raped in the ass by planned obselescence it might as well not cost an asston.

But Ammurricans MUST be able to run leaf blowers 24/7. So to reduce pollution from this totally necessary activity, all tools must be changed from gas to electric.

I wonder what the total energy cost purely from leaf blowers and lawnmowers is.

 

[Cavalier Cipolla]

Might just be better to buy random chinese garbage at that point, because they manufacture all of these tools anyway and it's way cheaper to purchase directly from them. If we're going to get raped in the ass by planned obselescence it might as well not cost an asston.

Or even better, be like Electroboom and try to build one of these yourself. Even the Kreosan guys did some DIY shit using Chinesium parts. They modded an old bicycle with some powerful Chinesium electric motor and a DIY Li-ion battery pack. That thing could reach speeds of 100 km/h with some minor bodywork tweaks.
Also, some more 6502 asm goodness in Notepad. If you're gonna horrify the Pytards, you might as well go all out.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

code

I think it could've been nice if BASIC remained mainstream and easy to program.

Maybe powers that shouldn't be don't like it if everyone can code stuff easily?

 

[Toolbox]

Or even better, be like Electroboom and try to build one of these yourself. Even the Kreosan guys did some DIY shit using Chinesium parts. They modded an old bicycle with some powerful Chinesium electric motor and a DIY Li-ion battery pack. That thing could reach speeds of 100 km/h with some minor bodywork tweaks.
Also, some more 6502 asm goodness in Notepad. If you're gonna horrify the Pytards, you might as well go all out.

All you really need to make an electric chainsaw is a motor, oil, chain, and a battery. And some metal you can cut into the right shapes. It won't work the best with just that but it would be a start.

 

[Cavalier Cipolla]

I think it could've been nice if BASIC remained mainstream and easy to program.

Maybe powers that shouldn't be don't like it if everyone can code stuff easily?

What you are looking for is Python, and its community is downright plagued by script kiddies that write 5 lines of code that just call some 3rd party library that does all the work, and then they call themselves computer geniuses, as I explained in one of my previous posts. Pretty sure BASIC would have suffered the same fate.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Other worlds in the Solar System suck.

Interstellar travel may be impossible.

The best approach to living off of this crazy planet could be to live in a space station that has Earth-like conditions on board. Like a rotating wheel-shaped thing with plants and air. Biosphere 2 showed that may not be possible though. We may truly be trapped on this crazy planet, with death being the only out.

(that sucks)



At least one can not use social media.

Living outside of this crazy "society" isn't as easy.

Biosphere 2 showed it IS possible, just difficult. It was an amazing learning opportunity.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

I agree. Newer printers behave more like IOT devices in how they always want to download patches or firmware updates and such.

When I moved out of my office, one of the things I was sure take to my home office with me was an older color printer that was made before connecting to the internet became a thing. All it does it print without the needless bells, whistles, and annoyances found in today's printers. It's a good standby/backup printer and serves as a reminder of the time when devices did only what you bought them for without extraneous bloat and functionality.

The other trend I hate is how color printers need to do periodic "maintenance" even if you hardly use them. All it seems do is deplete the (costly) color ink cartridges at a faster than usual rate. If anything, this feature maintains the company's revenue stream due to all the wasted ink people have to replace.


In junior high, my best friend at the time had a multi-function watch. Although there was no radio a la Dick Tracy, it had the usual options for time, date, and stopwatch along with one other built-in feature I hadn't seen on a watch before or after: the ability to keep score for two entities up to a 99-99 tie.

I see Apple Watch offers this ability as an app, but I haven't seen this feature be offered natively ever since my classmate showed off his watch ages ago.

That is called a "rattrapante" feature. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_chronograph

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Hopefully eventually just converting existing vehicles to electric can be cheaper than teslas are so most just go that route, and they can't be 'updated' without you wanting them to and they don't have an internet connection.

You know what's better than an EV? A vehicle that can be refuelled in 30 seconds from a Jerry can.

 

[Mr. 0]

You know what's better than an EV? A vehicle that can be refuelled in 30 seconds from a Jerry can.

NO NOT THAT

YOUR KILLING DINOSAURS AND THE OZONE LAYER

WE NEED SOLAR POWERED CARS WITH NO AEROSOLS OR CFCs THAT PING THE DEALERSHIP WHENEVER THERE'S A SERVICE ISSUE

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Biosphere 2 showed it IS possible, just difficult.

I thought the experiment where it was sealed off from the outside had problems and couldn't be done?

Anyway it's still an interesting place.