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[ToroidalBoat]

Same here with Firefox, but I can't even post without turning page style off and using a proxy.

I still need to use a proxy with style off to post (error message is gone though). I can still rate and vote posts without a proxy.

 

[Dread First]

I still need to use a proxy with style off to post (error message is gone though). I can still rate and vote posts without a proxy.

I love how Tor inexplicably works despite being 100% based off of Firefox ESR.

Edit: Clearnet over Brave on iOS works. I can even post and edit! Yay!

 

[CarlosDanger]

Clearnet began working for me on normie browsers last night, but it is back to not working tonight. Clearnet through Tor is working great though.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

so clearnet improved for a bit but then went back to not working. i finally got fed up enough to just download brave and using brave with a private tor window seems to be working where as last time i used the tor browser and the only thing that would work on there is the onion.

i honestly wonder what exactly is allowing the site to be accessed but not letting you post. are they actually targeting only select things now or something? its so weird.

 

[drfuzzyballs]

Testing to see if I can post, haven't been able to for like 2 days.

Edit: Well fuck me it works with a VPN but not clearnet. My ISP will hear about this.

 

[DavidS877]

Ok, it's certainly something afoot with a firewall or some other hard to debug problem(maybe on the Kiwi side, maybe in the path somewhere)
My standard MTU breaks(physical 1500, advertised MSS 1460).
I'm able to receive full length packets but trying to send them to the web server means they never arrive as you can see by the retransmits until the remote times out and tells us to go away.

A reduced MTU on the route of 600(MSS 560) works.

1400 also works but I didn't capture it.

Edit: it almost feels like an old-school PTMU discovery failure like something in the path is blocking ICMP Fragmentation Failed because my outgoing packets are apparently setting "Don't Fragment"
Edit2: But disabling PMTU discovery and allowing fragmentation still fails.
Edit3: And my iOS device can post fine. Guess I need to figure out how to packet capture it.

Edit4: iOS is doing some deep voodoo it looks like, it sends the packet that gets retransmitted until failing on my desktop, but after 2 attempts it magically sends only part of the packet instead, which goes through fine. I'm not sure if Apple is doing some magic to deal with crappy links or what.

Edit5: Looks like the behavior is called "TCP MTU Probing" and when it sees packet loss it drops back the packet size. On Linux you can set "sysctl net.ipv4.tcp_mtu_probing=1" if this post goes through then that works.

 

[Dread First]

Update: Clearnet over Proton VPN on Firefox ESR works perfectly.

Ok, it's certainly something afoot with a firewall or some other hard to debug problem(on the Kiwi side)
My standard MTU breaks(physical 1500, advertised MSS 1460).
I'm able to receive full length packets but trying to send them to the web server means they never arrive as you can see by the retransmits until the remote times out and tells us to go away.
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A reduced MTU on the route of 600(MSS 560) works.
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1400 also works but I didn't capture it.

Could all this packet faggotry be the reason why 2FA isn't working over clearnet? (insofar as Spectrum in the NY metro area is concerned)

Logging into clearnet on Firefox 102.6 ESR via Proton VPN allows me to avoid using Tor, but home connection doesn't load period. That wasn't quite the case the other day as both VPN and bare connection didn't pass 2FA but Tor did.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Testing. If this goes through Brave is working again on Android

Clearnet Brave Browser now works.

Google Chrome now visits the site but still blocks posting.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Maybe mentally ill SJWs can't take down the site, so they somehow impaired posting "wrongthink" (anything posted on KF) instead?

 

[DavidS877]

Could all this packet faggotry be the reason why 2FA isn't working over clearnet? (insofar as Spectrum in the NY metro area is concerned)

It's unlikely to be deliberate faggotry as it's hard to do anything this low level in a transit router. But it's certainly possible other things sending large data packets to the farms could hit issues, not sure how 2FA is implemented.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Clearnet Brave Browser is blocked from posting again. Back to full on TOR Onion in order to post. It seems like a rather specific form of DDoS. One second working, the next not.

 

[HarblMcDavid]

Just as an FYI, I poked further and it seems something about my private brave instance appears to be borked. I'm not sure what. I changed brave browser instances (private to non-private) and was able to do all the things I couldn't in the private instance. I then proceeded to kill all the KF tabs via task manager and still no dice on the private instance even ctrl+F5ing every single killed tab after the fact.

I tried chrome and chrome worked fine, I logged in on chrome and things still worked fine.

Realistically the only major thing is that I've had KF tabs on brave private instance open for weeks or months. My guess is if I restart brave and re-open the private instance things will work fine again there.

While an embarrassing flub on my part not to check the most obvious thing, others may wish to consider a browser restart if you're having trouble and see what it fixes, especially if you have the bad habit of never closing anything like I do.

Kinda odd that KF specifically seems to become difficult to keep working over time though for a given browser instance, I don't have this issue with other tabs I let lay dormant which is part of why I didn't think to check it sooner.

 

[Dread First]

Just as an FYI, I poked further and it seems something about my private brave instance appears to be borked. I'm not sure what. I changed brave browser instances (private to non-private) and was able to do all the things I couldn't in the private instance. I then proceeded to kill all the KF tabs via task manager and still no dice on the private instance even ctrl+F5ing every single killed tab after the fact.

I tried chrome and chrome worked fine, I logged in on chrome and things still worked fine.

Realistically the only major thing is that I've had KF tabs on brave private instance open for weeks or months. My guess is if I restart brave and re-open the private instance things will work fine again there.

While an embarrassing flub on my part not to check the most obvious thing, others may wish to consider a browser restart if you're having trouble and see what it fixes, especially if you have the bad habit of never closing anything like I do.

Kinda odd that KF specifically seems to become difficult to keep working over time though for a given browser instance, I don't have this issue with other tabs I let lay dormant which is part of why I didn't think to check it sooner.

FYI - Having your browser set to clear all data (including cookies) upon exit, and then using exceptions to retain cookies and other such things will help you kick the habit of relying on a single browser session. Some cookies won't function properly if they're treated as "session" cookies, which private/incognito windows always do.

 

[Uncle Ted's Cabin]

I'm still getting 408s when trying to post on desktop Brave clearnet. It works from tor.

 

[TrulyMan]

While casually trolling the nerds in the Doom thread a little bit I got a 429 (could be wrong though on the number, memory fading) Error "for too many requests". It happened after just a few impatient clicks trying to edit a post.
Could't subsequently use my Opera browser on the clearnet for a minute, switched to Tor to write this post, in the mean time clearnet opened up again as well.

Just noting here if its of any use.
Curious, is this part of the DDOS protection or part of the DDOS attack, anyone know?

 

[Enig]

Edit5: Looks like the behavior is called "TCP MTU Probing" and when it sees packet loss it drops back the packet size. On Linux you can set "sysctl net.ipv4.tcp_mtu_probing=1" if this post goes through then that works.

Testing this, if post goes through then Brave on Arch is not gay and boneless after all.

 

[Rommelbutt]

Trying to change my avatar

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Having a lot of difficulty posting, getting "Oops we ran into some problems."

Will surprise me if this goes through.

Edit: Been trying to post on and off since last night. One difference: I was home on Spectrum wifi, am now on Verizon mobile network. Same device.

 

[YE24]

Having a lot of difficulty posting, getting "Oops we ran into some problems."

Will surprise me if this goes through.

Edit: Been trying to post on and off since last night. One difference: I was home on Spectrum wifi, am now on Verizon mobile network. Same device.

You're supposed to check the console where it reports a 408, but I guess that's hard on mobile. Using Tor worked around it for me. If this post goes through for me, I think we're golden. I was having the identical problem for days. Brought it up with Null after he solicited reports, and he dealt with it in a small handful of hours. So, here's the test...

...and failed. But now the header tells me that he's still working on it and to keep doing what we're doing, so I'm posting this on Tor as an update and will resume browsing on clearnet.

 

[Dread First]

Having a lot of difficulty posting, getting "Oops we ran into some problems."

Will surprise me if this goes through.

Edit: Been trying to post on and off since last night. One difference: I was home on Spectrum wifi, am now on Verizon mobile network. Same device.

Spectrum WiFi on Firefox desktop is giving me issues too. You ain't alone, brother. Currently using VPN over clearnet.