Over 50 killed. RIP
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Terror Trouble in Orlando
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Surviving a trauma like a car crash not getting shot in the face
A) sober
B) at least two exits literally next to you
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GSW's and Knife injurys seem to be the lucky ones apparently, however when looking it up it seems to be specific to torso and arm / leg wounds, head trauma not so much.
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Supposedly James used some sort of teargas-like devices that obscured vision, irritating eyes and skin. It's not as easy to find the exits while the theater fills up with skin and eye irritating smoke.
Coincidentally, there were about 400 people inside the room that James Holmes opened fire in.
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That's because the body doesn't tense up and shit but getting shot at close proximity in the face either way
Even with smoke people know where the exits are they had just walked through a couple of minutes ago it's very different also Holmes was crazy as balls with no training
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https://encyclopediadramatica.se/High_Score
I don't know why everyone is suddenly talking about his accuracy but here are some statistics comparing him to other mass shooters
I don't know why everyone is suddenly talking about his accuracy but here are some statistics comparing him to other mass shooters
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Autism. You should always just assume autism
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I was just wondering why.
Seung-Hui Cho was an retarded autist who wrote this fucking thing. Would you expect a great level of competence from the author of Richard McBeef? Definite high score, though. For a while.
Same with Adam Lanza, giant autist. Seriously, shooting a bunch of children is easy mode as this stuff goes.
Most of the people who do mass shootings are pathetic fucking lunatics who if they didn't decide to shoot a bunch of people, you'd never know them other than as that creepy guy.
Good catch on the Port Arthur guy, but I'm just going to go into denial and decide he probably just got lucky on that shit.
However, the mentality of your usual disorganized, often mentally challenged shooter is usually enough to explain their terrible results.
This guy, fucked up as he was, was just a guy who decided to murder as many people as he could, specifically gay people, and at a venue he apparently routinely scoped for a lengthy period of time. He actually had the intention of just killing as many people as possible and then dying and getting his however many virgins.
He chose the weapons that would best be able to achieve his goal, purchased them legally, since he didn't care about his name being connected to his crimes, which usually deters criminals from legally purchasing firearms they intend to use in crimes, and then he went and did it, and died, which he also intended.
I think this probably explains his high accuracy and general level of competence. He is a lot more like Anders Breivik than the usual shooter who is just mad at being a social reject.
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Exactly. As I said, comparing him to anyone but breivik is retarded there is no comparison he was not a mass shooter he was a terrorist
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I've been hunting online for a reasoned, calm blog/article/whatfuckingever pointing out that this was perpetrated by Islamic Terrorism and that needs an approach which directly addresses this, but no. All I'm finding is a high volume biologically contaminated waste water treatment facility, aka a bunch of retards swimming in their own shit and demanding that everyone else jumps in with them. It's all society's fault and anyone who points out that this was perpetrated by someone not from this society is racist.
It's like being on a sinking fucking ship and instead of helping bail out the water, the entire passenger population is up in arms and howling about the water being fresh water even though all factual scientific and environmental analysis says that it's actually brackish. And every time the crew members make a desperate attempt to get into the fucking engine room and save the entire ship and everyone in it, the way is blocked by shrieking passengers telling them to do something and fix it in between screeching about the salinity of the fucking water, and how the crew have to first fucking magically change the water the boat's sinking in, otherwise the crew are not getting into that engine room because that's discrimination against water.
Swear to fucking god, these people are too dumb to live. And unfortunately, they're hell bent on taking everyone else down with them.
It's like being on a sinking fucking ship and instead of helping bail out the water, the entire passenger population is up in arms and howling about the water being fresh water even though all factual scientific and environmental analysis says that it's actually brackish. And every time the crew members make a desperate attempt to get into the fucking engine room and save the entire ship and everyone in it, the way is blocked by shrieking passengers telling them to do something and fix it in between screeching about the salinity of the fucking water, and how the crew have to first fucking magically change the water the boat's sinking in, otherwise the crew are not getting into that engine room because that's discrimination against water.
Swear to fucking god, these people are too dumb to live. And unfortunately, they're hell bent on taking everyone else down with them.
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If you want a breath of sanity on the topic from the left, check out David Pakman's videos on the topic
https://www.youtube.com/user/MidweekPolitics/videos
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a video of the shooting from the point of view of someone who was in the bathroom was released
i don't have a link
i don't have a link
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In an encouraging development for society: turns out our friend, the Camelfucker's Camelfucker, actually did raise red flags at the Florida gunshops.
Though, in a discouraging development, it appears our counterterrorism apparatus is staffed entirely by retards.
Though, in a discouraging development, it appears our counterterrorism apparatus is staffed entirely by retards.
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Well they are american after all...
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Here is the full article. I am sure it will pop up in some form elsewhere.
Orlando Shooter Raised Suspicion at Gun Shops
New information emerges about Omar Mateen’s movements in the weeks before the massacre
After the Orlando shooting, many politicians decried the lack of action that has gripped Washington over gun legislation for several years. However, WSJ's Gerald F. Seib explains why there could be movement on the issue soon. Photo: AP
By CHARLES PASSY, JOSH MITCHELL and LAURA STEVENS
Updated June 16, 2016 12:02 a.m. ET
JENSEN BEACH, Fla.— Omar Mateen visited a gun shop in this town near his home about five or six weeks ago. His request: heavy-duty body armor—rated IIIA, the sort typically used by law enforcement—and bulk ammunition.
While at the store, Mateen had a phone conversation in which he appeared to be speaking in a Middle Eastern language, according to Robbie Abell, the co-owner of the store, Lotus Gunworks of South Florida. Staffers also noticed him texting on his phone.
Mateen “just seemed very odd,” Mr. Abell said. “The questions he was asking [about body armor] were not the normal questions a normal person would be asking.”
Lotus Gunworks doesn’t carry armor. Employees declined to sell Mateen bulk ammunition, turning him away. “If something is suspicious, it’s our discretion,” Mr. Abell said. “We are the gatekeeper.”
The FBI is in the process of reconstructing all of Mateen’s movements ahead of the shooting at an Orlando gay nightclub that left 49 dead and 53 injured early Sunday. The FBI is also looking into other parts of the gunman’s life, including his time at a corrections-officer academy. In 2007, he was kicked out of the school after an incident that led authorities to escort him off the campus, according to three former trainees in the program then.
An FBI spokesman didn’t immediately comment about the attempt to buy body armor by Mateen.
Footage from a 2012 documentary about the BP oil spill called “The Big Fix” apparently shows Orlando shooter Omar Mateen as a disgruntled employee while he was working as a security guard. Authorities are still trying to piece together the motives of a man who had previously been involved in two terrorism-related investigations. PHOTO: GoDigital Media Group
Within the past week or so, Mateen visited another gun store, St. Lucie Shooting Center, on two occasions and purchased two weapons, a pistol and a long gun, according to Ed Henson, the store’s owner.
Mateen’s visits to the gun shops are among several new pieces of information emerging about his movements in the days, weeks and months before the shooting. In the attack he used a .223 SIG Sauer semiautomatic rifle—believed to be the long gun he bought at St. Lucie Shooting Center—and possibly other weapons.
Investigators have ruled out earlier reports that Mateen may have targeted other clubs in the Orlando area. Pulse was the gunman’s intended target, said Ronald Hopper, the FBI assistant special agent overseeing the investigation in Orlando.
Investigators on Wednesday said they consider the attack both a hate crime and an act of terrorism.
“This was an act of violence born out of hate that inflicted terror on an entire community,” Mr. Hopper said at a news conference. “I would call it a hate crime; I would call it terrorism. It’s both.”
Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer said Mateen made stops before he committed the crime at Pulse. “My understanding is that he didn’t drive directly from his home to Pulse,” Mr. Dyer said. “But I don’t have any information on when or where.”
Mateen, 29, who was killed by police in the Sunday massacre, had for years shown erratic behavior both at work and home, people who knew him said. Some of the information that emerged Wednesday helped to provide insights into his motivations and mental state.
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This undated image shows Omar Mateen, who authorities say killed dozens of people inside the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla., on Sunday.PHOTO: ASSOCIATED PRESS
Mateen, the son of Afghan immigrants, was hired in 2007 by G4S Secure Solutions, a private security company, and worked at the St. Lucie Courthouse in Florida until 2013. The St. Lucie County sheriff said he was moved out of the courthouse job after he made inflammatory comments. An FBI investigation of the incident was deemed inconclusive, the sheriff said.
In 2007, Mateen was working for the Florida Department of Corrections at a state prison in Martin County, according to current and former state officials. Mateen had been hired the previous year essentially as a trainee, sharing many duties with corrections officers.
During this time, he attended an academy at Indian River Community College that offered training to would-be corrections officers. Mateen had aspired to be a police officer and viewed graduating from the correctional academy as a “steppingstone” to that profession, though he ultimately would have had to graduate from a separate police academy, said several people who were attending or working at the college at the time.
But just a couple of months into the academy program, Mateen was sitting in his car in the parking lot midday as classes were about to resume when authorities swarmed his vehicle and escorted him off the property, said Clinton Custar, who attended the academy at the time.
Later that day, Mr. Custar recalls, a high-ranking academy leader announced to the cadets that Mateen had threatened to bring a gun on campus.
Trever Braden, also a cadet at the time, said that during the incident, he and his classmates were sitting in a classroom when a classmate came in and said he believed Mateen had a gun in his car.
A third former trainee at the academy said he also witnessed the incident. Days earlier, he recalled, he heard Mateen make threats in class alluding to the mass shooting at Virginia Tech, which had just occurred.
Mateen, this former cadet recalled, said what happened at Virginia Tech, where a gunman killed 33 people, “could happen here in the academy class” because he felt classmates were harassing him for being Muslim.
The former cadet said he knew Mateen was Muslim because they talked about it at an earlier cookout, where Mateen declined to eat pork. The former cadet denied classmates harassed him over his religion.
Mateen didn’t show up at school for three or four days after making the comments in class, the former cadet said. When he finally did return, and pulled up in his car, “the administration rushed his car and he was never heard from again,” the former cadet said. He said he never learned why.
Many in Orlando's gay club scene clubbing culture go by nicknames to either disguise their real identities or create new ones. After the legal names of the shooting victims were released, friends struggled to identify who was who. WSJ's Jason Bellini reports on why aliases are so common in this community.
Both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump have pointed to the mass shooting in Orlando, Fla., to bolster their arguments against each other on terrorism and security in a divisive 2016 presidential campaign. WSJ's Gerald F. Seib explains. Photo: AP
Seddique Mateen, the father of the man authorities say killed 49 people in an Orlando nightclub, has taken several opportunities to try and explain to the media that he didn't understand the heinous actions of his otherwise "normal" son. Photo: Sky News
Susanne Coburn Laforest, a 61-year-old retired corrections offer and former classmate of Mateen, didn’t recall his comments regarding Virginia Tech. She said he threatened to shoot his classmates at the cookout—which she said was held on a gun range—after his hamburger touched pork.
He “flipped out,” she said, told people not to laugh at him and said “he was going to come back and shoot us,” she recalled.
A Florida Department of Corrections spokesman confirmed Mateen worked for the agency from Oct. 27, 2006, to April 27, 2007, at the Martin Correctional Institution, which holds male inmates. The spokesman said he didn’t yet have details on Mateen’s job duties or the circumstances under which he left the agency. He declined to comment on the alleged incident in the academy’s parking lot.
According to Larry Lawson, who directed the training academy but wasn’t Mateen’s instructor, cadets weren’t allowed to have their own guns on academy premises. He said that on certain days the academy would conduct courses in which cadets would use guns provided by the academy to learn how to use firearms.
A spokesman for the St. Lucie County Sheriff’s Office said the agency had no record of responding to an incident at the academy involving Mateen.
Robert Lane, a spokesman for the school, which is now called Indian River State College, said the college has no record of anyone named Mateen being involved in disciplinary actions or having any interactions with campus security. Mateen was released from the academy in April 2007 when his employment with the Department of Corrections ended, Mr. Lane said.
Mateen applied to the law enforcement academy in 2015 but was denied admission and didn’t appeal that decision, Mr. Lane said.
A transcript provided by the school shows that Mateen got Bs in five of his corrections academy courses, including “interpersonal skills,” but failed to complete six courses, including “weapons” and “defensive tactics.”
He had already graduated from the same college in 2006 with an associate degree in criminal justice technology, holding a 2.76 GPA.
—Alexandra Berzon, John R. Emshwiller, Valerie Bauerlein and Jon Kamp contributed to this article.
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That article is complete bullshit. The title is about his gun store purchases. A bunch of Florida gun shop workers refused to sell him ammunition because he was talking in Arabic on the phone.
Then it goes on to list two separate incidents where Omar threatened to kill his classmates at a Police Academy with a gun. Don't you guys think we have to do something about these crazies brazenly threatening mass murder onto students at a Community College? Why is the headline not about these incidents? Which do you guys think is more newsworthy?
In a similar manner to Omar's threats of violence, James Holmes was seeing a school psychiatrist at his University before he threatened violence against her and stopped visiting her. She went to the police and showed them the text messages he sent, and the police didn't do anything. At least Omar was met by some kind of law enforcement after his threats.
Also similarly, Aaron Alexis, who killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard, was visited by police after 2 separate incidents of shooting in a rage. Once he had an argument with an upstairs apartment neighbor, after which he shot a round into his ceiling, into the apartment above him. When the police showed up, he said he was cooking while cleaning his gun, so his hands slipped and fired accidentally.
He also went and shot out all of the tires of another person's car.
In both cases, Aaron Alexis received no charges, just a slap on the wrist.
There are warning signs to a lot of these sickos.
Then it goes on to list two separate incidents where Omar threatened to kill his classmates at a Police Academy with a gun. Don't you guys think we have to do something about these crazies brazenly threatening mass murder onto students at a Community College? Why is the headline not about these incidents? Which do you guys think is more newsworthy?
In a similar manner to Omar's threats of violence, James Holmes was seeing a school psychiatrist at his University before he threatened violence against her and stopped visiting her. She went to the police and showed them the text messages he sent, and the police didn't do anything. At least Omar was met by some kind of law enforcement after his threats.
Also similarly, Aaron Alexis, who killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard, was visited by police after 2 separate incidents of shooting in a rage. Once he had an argument with an upstairs apartment neighbor, after which he shot a round into his ceiling, into the apartment above him. When the police showed up, he said he was cooking while cleaning his gun, so his hands slipped and fired accidentally.
He also went and shot out all of the tires of another person's car.
In both cases, Aaron Alexis received no charges, just a slap on the wrist.
There are warning signs to a lot of these sickos.
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The shooter is Afghani, I doubt he knows Arabic other than some phrases used in Islamic culture.
People definitely have to do something about it, but similar mass-shootings in the past were done by people who weren't Muslim. People have to be reported to authorities if such symptoms are shown, and heavy interrogation should be in order.
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So Omar was obviously a nutcase yet no-one in charge thought to do anything about it?
Jesus H. Christ.
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The Wall Street Journal said "Middle-Eastern Language," not "Arabic." It was probably Pashto or Dari.
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I assume the feds can't actually do anything to him until after he breaks a law.
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Stalking, repeated domestic assault, making terrorist threats to coworkers, and a complete inability to get along with others peacefully looks like some pretty clear violations, if you ask me.