Terror Trouble in Orlando

Piga Dgrifm said:
Dammit. I'm agreeing with Trump more and more. What's happening to me?
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Just wait for him to comment on economic policy again. That feeling will pass.

God we're in for such a shit election this year. If only 2012 me could have known when he said "Romney vs Obama, well at least it can't get any worse right?"
 
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MarineTrainedTard said:
Good point. Is it possible for something to be both, or is are they mutually exclusive? And where is the line drawn?

Though I suppose the distinction is purely academic since the guy's more lead than flesh now
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It is possible for an act to be considered hateful terror, by my understanding. I would argue by definition that an act of terror is intrinsically motivated by hatred towards a certain culture, but what do I know.

MarineTrainedTard said:
I could buy the two guys making out story, but to say it's got nothing to do with religion is laughable. The reason he decided to shoot a whole shitload of people after seeing two guys make out is his religion says two guys making out is wrong, so he went to the "logical" extreme of "inshallah I will murder all the homo kaffirin"
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Hatred is a function of ideology, and implying that it can spring from a vacuum is absurd.
 
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skaytec said:
I only want that americans vote for Trump in November, he might be an asshole but at least he wont risk the national security for ''tolerance''.
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Well, mass shooting and terrorism
will be presented in other light but not exactly "over" or magically disappearing because institutional xenophobia.

That is the same kind of shallow politics that make tumblerinas think that "gay Islamic tranny" is not a contradiction.
 
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I wonder how long until CWC posts something like this in response?
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/11-15-chris-on-france.14528/

If I remember sifting through his autistic rambling right on the Paris incident he thought it had to do with 'hurt feelings and mental frustrations' of the terrorists and spent a lot of the message comparing the event to Sonichu battling villains...or something.

Though I wonder if now that it happened to a group he feels he's at least some part of if his tune will change.
 
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Cosmos said:
So, if the shooter did have ties to ISIS or another terrorist group
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This is what the media likes to do. Instead of calling this person a mass murderer, they call him a shooter. They put in big words in the headlines SHOOTER GUN SHOOTING and associate the act of shooting with these attacks, not the act of murder, until the word shooter or shooting has a negative connotation.

If anyone were to tell their coworker, out of the blue, "I'm going to go shooting tomorrow," wouldn't they take that as a threat? A warning about a mass shooting, instead of going to the range and practicing a hobby that has been ingrained in the United States' culture since its inception? If you told your coworker you owned a gun or were planning on buying one, how do you think they would respond? Ask what it's for? Question if you have mass-homicidal motives? Not assume you might want to practice an Olympic fucking sport?

Anyway I would appreciate it if you would call this person and other perpetrators of these attacks murderers, mass-murderers, killers, instead of generically "the shooter." #TriggerWarning

Tangentially related, I read the police's report on the Sandy Hook mass murder, and throughout the entire 50-60 something pages of it, they refer to Adam Lanza exclusively as "the shooter." It read so awkwardly.

Sandy Hook Connecticut State Police Report said:
On the morning of December 14, 2012, the shooter, age 20, heavily armed, went to Sandy Hook Elementary School (SHES) in Newtown, where he shot his way into the locked school building with a Bushmaster Model XM15-E2S rifle. He then shot and killed the principal and school psychologist as they were in the north hallway of the school responding to the noise of the shooter coming into the school. The shooter also shot and injured two other staff members who were also in the hallway.

The shooter then went into the main office, apparently did not see the staff who were hiding there, and returned to the hallway.

After leaving the main office, the shooter then went down the same hallway in which he had just killed two people and entered first grade classrooms 8 and 10, the order in which is unknown
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Shugo said:
This is what the media likes to do. Instead of calling this person a mass murderer, they call him a shooter. They put in big words in the headlines SHOOTER GUN SHOOTING and associate the act of shooting with these attacks, not the act of murder, until the word shooter or shooting has a negative connotation.

If anyone were to tell their coworker, out of the blue, "I'm going to go shooting tomorrow," wouldn't they take that as a threat? A warning about a mass shooting, instead of going to the range and practicing a hobby that has been ingrained in the United States' culture since its inception? If you told your coworker you owned a gun or were planning on buying one, how do you think they would respond? Ask what it's for? Question if you have mass-homicidal motives? Not assume you might want to practice an Olympic fucking sport?

Anyway I would appreciate it if you would call this person and other perpetrators of these attacks murderers, mass-murderers, killers, instead of generically "the shooter." #TriggerWarning

Tangentially related, I read the police's report on the Sandy Hook mass murder, and throughout the entire 50-60 something pages of it, they refer to Adam Lanza exclusively as "the shooter." It read so awkwardly.
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We get it. You're triggered.
 
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More BUZZFEED LIBSPERGS..... kill yourself.
"the shooter wasn't motivated by religion"

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Shugo said:
This is what the media likes to do. Instead of calling this person a mass murderer, they call him a shooter. They put in big words in the headlines SHOOTER GUN SHOOTING and associate the act of shooting with these attacks, not the act of murder, until the word shooter or shooting has a negative connotation.

If anyone were to tell their coworker, out of the blue, "I'm going to go shooting tomorrow," wouldn't they take that as a threat? A warning about a mass shooting, instead of going to the range and practicing a hobby that has been ingrained in the United States' culture since its inception? If you told your coworker you owned a gun or were planning on buying one, how do you think they would respond? Ask what it's for? Question if you have mass-homicidal motives? Not assume you might want to practice an Olympic fucking sport?

Anyway I would appreciate it if you would call this person and other perpetrators of these attacks murderers, mass-murderers, killers, instead of generically "the shooter." #TriggerWarning

Tangentially related, I read the police's report on the Sandy Hook mass murder, and throughout the entire 50-60 something pages of it, they refer to Adam Lanza exclusively as "the shooter." It read so awkwardly.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they made that disctinction for sake of precision.
A "mass murderer" is someone who committed a crime, however a crime it is only after a judge found him guilty of said crime (assumption of innocence and all that jazz).
A shooter is someone who operates a firearm.

It's a report done by police, who have a keen eye on such details, however it looks awkward to us "civilians". After all, it's a special lingo they use.
 
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Shugo said:
Why not call him a mass murderer then? A lot more people shoot than commit mass murders. The police who were on the scene (I believe) shot him to death. They're not shooters, or gunmen, they are police who shoot and have guns.
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Are you sure they don't call them shooters? Because the phrase "the Columbine shooters" come to my mind...
 
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