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Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me
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Not surprising to anyone with an engineering background, recycled plastic is basically garbage. Burning it for municipal heat is pretty much the best use you can put it to. Thankfully, almost every country is pragmatic enough to count burning plastic waste as recycling. The exception is of course the EU, which will instead cripple itself economically to subsidise recycling plants that churn out product nobody wants.
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It turns out the Volvo EX30's cost-cutting is even more obvious, since they decided to use the same "one-set of power window controls + toggle" setup that the VW ID.4 got shit on for doing:
And Monash Health group, in Melbourne, Australia, has banned employees with EVs from charging them while parking in their 11 hospitals, due to fire risks.
This video also mentions about six incidents of EVs catching fire in Australia:
Tesla has also won against a monopoly on repair lawsuit, meaning that Right-To-Repair will continue to be a major issue with Teslas.
A Tesla Model X owner with a 3-year old car and 80k miles on it, got quoted for a $10k repair to fix autopilot and suspension issues:
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Bumping, as Tesla is finally delivering Cybertrucks to pre-purchasers, in a livestream event on Xitter.
The Cybertruck pre-configurer is also now available on Tesla's website. The AWD model is $80k, and the top-of-the-line Cyberbeast trim is $100k. There is also a $61k RWD trim, but it won't be available until 2025.
And I want to see how fast someone will total one of these things, and insurance companies would have to write them off.
The Cybertruck pre-configurer is also now available on Tesla's website. The AWD model is $80k, and the top-of-the-line Cyberbeast trim is $100k. There is also a $61k RWD trim, but it won't be available until 2025.
And I want to see how fast someone will total one of these things, and insurance companies would have to write them off.
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The Cybertruck's crash test results look absolutely worrying, given how the rear suspension breaks in a frontal crash, due to a lack of a crumple zone:
The Cybertruck also does not include a Spare Tire and tool kit, as it is a $1200+ additional purchase:
Other quirks about the Cybertruck include Steer-By-Wire, without a physical steering rack as a backup, has a 6800+ LB curb weight, has a weird button instead of actual door handles, and a weird hubcap.
The Cybertruck also does not include a Spare Tire and tool kit, as it is a $1200+ additional purchase:
Other quirks about the Cybertruck include Steer-By-Wire, without a physical steering rack as a backup, has a 6800+ LB curb weight, has a weird button instead of actual door handles, and a weird hubcap.
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I think it's deliberate. It looks like they're transferring the energy of the crash through the internal structure and allowing some of it to dissipate at the rear by breaking components, rather than absorbing it in a crumple zone at the front. The Smart4two uses a similar idea. Crumple zones are the simplest (and cheapest) way to solve the problem, but they aren't the only one. One of the unspoken reasons high-end sports cars have so much composite in their outer skin, aside from weight considerations, is because it will completely shred itself in a crash, soaking up a huge amount of energy in the process.
Having said that, I'd want to see NCAP test results for it. I'm pretty sure it won't do very well on the deformable barrier tests. It's also a nightmare for pedestrian safety, with all those sharp corners.
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This thing is so stupid. Yet again tesla motors over promises and under delivers.
*additional $16,000 range extender will give you 470mi
The only thing they delivered on was the gimmick of a sub 2.9s 0-60 time for the tri motor AWD model which is $30,000 more expensive than when announced years ago. Nobody should be impressed by this. EV acceleration is a gimmick, it's AWD and has instant torque, we've seen EVs accelerate quickly like this for years now and it's nothing new. A nearly 10,000lb hummer ev does 0-60 in 3.3s, a rivian r1t does it in 3.1s (which is faster than an equivalently priced cybertruck), and now that the cybertruck's true numbers are out hummer and rivian are free to improve that time and match the cybertruck.
| When announced | Reality |
| Base $43,900 | Base $60,990 |
| AWD tri motor $69,900 | Reality $99,990 |
| AWD Range 500mi+ | AWD Range 340mi* |
| Max payload 3,500lb | Max payload 2,500lb |
| Max tow 14,000lb+ | Max tow 11,000lb |
| Bed length 6'6" | Bed length 6' |
The only thing they delivered on was the gimmick of a sub 2.9s 0-60 time for the tri motor AWD model which is $30,000 more expensive than when announced years ago. Nobody should be impressed by this. EV acceleration is a gimmick, it's AWD and has instant torque, we've seen EVs accelerate quickly like this for years now and it's nothing new. A nearly 10,000lb hummer ev does 0-60 in 3.3s, a rivian r1t does it in 3.1s (which is faster than an equivalently priced cybertruck), and now that the cybertruck's true numbers are out hummer and rivian are free to improve that time and match the cybertruck.
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I strongly expected this would happen. Battery electrics are so very bot good winter vehicles. And it's a really warm winter so far.
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German (?) rental company SIXT, has also ditched using Tesla cars, to go with BYD cars instead. That doesn't seem to be a good decision, either way.
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I wish there was a horrifying and informative updoot. I want to say it's a toy masquerading as a car, but a toy implies some analog ability. This is basically a moving pod for goyslop consoomers, that hopefully won't kill other people with how badly it is designed. The lack of a spare wheel is especially galling, and shows it is designed to people who never expect to be too far from a towing service.
And the most worrying thing is if this piece of shit will actually sell well then other car companies will also cut basic shit to sell it for an insane profit.
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Ford is reportedly going to scale back on F-150 Lightning production, for obvious reasons... No one's buying them anymore.
Someone drove 1.2 million miles on a Tesla Model S, but required 13 motor replacements and 3 battery replacements to do so.
The Tesla Model 3 is now ranked dead last in the Germany TUV Reliability report. Most of the TUV failures are with the brakes, and suspension.
Someone drove 1.2 million miles on a Tesla Model S, but required 13 motor replacements and 3 battery replacements to do so.
The Tesla Model 3 is now ranked dead last in the Germany TUV Reliability report. Most of the TUV failures are with the brakes, and suspension.
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Now to see how this shakes out. Hopefully they realize that switching the whole planet to electric vehicles simply isn't viable and will start pivoting to more rational options. Like lower cost efficient vehicles.
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Why would you put a solar energy park in fucking Nebraska anyway?
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I hate those people so much it's unreal. "Yeah it's a piece of shit but how far do you expect to move from your pod"?
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remember: teslas have shit build quality
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Made in America.
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Edison Motors is in the process of making a retrofit kit to convert old pickup trucks to their diesel-electric platform.
This I find pretty exciting as it will be much more environmentally friendly to recycle an old truck over manufacturing a new disposable electric. Plus it uses modular components that are easy to service and replace and you can use mass produced parts for the original truck chassis. They're currently in the process of finding shops who will partner to handle the refurbishing of trucks. They think that the cost of the kit will be "33%-50% of the cost of a new truck" whish is disappointing vague as I don't know what they are considering the cost of a new truck, but if one of their partners focuses on finding and refurbishing trucks with good frames but dead engines, that could be a decent supply of trucks at a reasonable price.
If this does well then it's reasonable to assume they will eventually offer kits to convert medium duty SUVs and even cars.
This I find pretty exciting as it will be much more environmentally friendly to recycle an old truck over manufacturing a new disposable electric. Plus it uses modular components that are easy to service and replace and you can use mass produced parts for the original truck chassis. They're currently in the process of finding shops who will partner to handle the refurbishing of trucks. They think that the cost of the kit will be "33%-50% of the cost of a new truck" whish is disappointing vague as I don't know what they are considering the cost of a new truck, but if one of their partners focuses on finding and refurbishing trucks with good frames but dead engines, that could be a decent supply of trucks at a reasonable price.
If this does well then it's reasonable to assume they will eventually offer kits to convert medium duty SUVs and even cars.
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