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Thanksgiving 'myth'? Universities ask whether Americans should 'reconsider' holiday as 'Day of Mourning'​

At least six universities are participating in the event​

Several American universities are participating in an event asking whether Americans should "reconsider" the Thanksgiving holiday.

The alumni associations of the University of Maryland, Florida Gulf Coast University, Washington State University, University of Central Arkansas, Hiram College in Ohio and California State University, Long Beach are participating.

After the initial publication of this story, a spokesperson for UCA claimed it had "no knowledge" of the webinar. After Fox News asked UCA why it had no knowledge of a webinar its own website promoted, the spokesperson said, "ALC is a contracted service that the UCA Alumni Association uses for content. From what we’ve been able to determine, the information was mistakenly linked to UCA. This webinar was not one that was requested by our alumni association." The event has now been removed from UCA's website.

According to the event description, the recent national shift from Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples Day "reflects a changing national mood," and asks if Americans should do the same with Thanksgiving.

"Starting in 1970, many Americans, led by Indigenous protesters, believed that Thanksgiving should be rededicated as a National Day of Mourning to reflect the centuries-long displacement and persecution of Native Americans. The recent shift from Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples Day reflects a changing national mood," the event description states. "Should Americans reconsider Thanksgiving when wrestling with our country’s complicated past?"

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"The myth of Thanksgiving is powerful and ubiquitous. In the autumn of 1621, so American legend has it, English Pilgrims seeking religious freedom shared a feast with Wampanoags, the residents of the territory the Pilgrims labeled Plymouth," the event description adds. "The good feelings of that meal soon faded when Native peoples and English colonists, including the Pilgrims, began to compete for resources, initiating conflicts that raged for generations. Yet despite the often-violent relations between the nation and Indigenous communities, the myth of coexistence remained."

The event's speaker, Peter C. Mancall, a professor at the University of Southern California, told Fox News that his goal for the event is to "explain the context for events and offer insights about how to interpret the existing evidence."

"I respect my audience’s ability to draw their own conclusions about the material," he said.

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A spokesperson for the University of Maryland said that the alumni association has a contract with the Alumni Learning Consortium, which hosts the event. A spokesperson for California State University, Long Beach also said that university pays to participate in the Alumni Learning Consortium.

A spokesperson for Florida Gulf Coast University said that the university's alumni association pays $2,500 to Professional Book Club Guru, which also provides access to the event. A spokesperson for Hiram College in Ohio said the college also pays for events through the Professional Book Club Guru.

The Alumni Learning Consortium is managed by the Professional Book Club Guru, which states that its mission is to "help alumni associations create more and higher quality online programs to drive engagement."
 
See your family, eat good food, be thankful.

OR

Be depressed and morbid about shit that happened hundreds of years before you were fucking born.

I'm not sure which way people will go on this. Maybe if you obnoxiously harangue them about it a little more we can find out?
 
See your family, eat good food, be thankful.

OR

Be depressed and morbid about shit that happened hundreds of years before you were fucking born.

I'm not sure which way people will go on this. Maybe if you obnoxiously harangue them about it a little more we can find out?
More food for me then.
 
See your family, eat good food, be thankful.

OR

Be depressed and morbid about shit that happened hundreds of years before you were fucking born.

I'm not sure which way people will go on this. Maybe if you obnoxiously harangue them about it a little more we can find out?

My family was still in Europe when all this went down. As far as I'm concerned it has nothing to do with me.

The holiday isn't really all that tied into pilgrims and Indians anymore anyway. People just want their damn turkey.
 
Goddamn, I love how salty John Redcorn is there.

Holy shit.

What's funny, is every Native American I've ever known and hung around with, you know, living right next door to the rez and all, hasn't even blinked at accepting a Thanksgiving invite.

Of course, it's usually: Football, food, drink beer.

Maybe it's because the ones that hated white people I didn't bother hanging around, because fuck those guys.
 
Goddamn, I love how salty John Redcorn is there.

Holy shit.

What's funny, is every Native American I've ever known and hung around with, you know, living right next door to the rez and all, hasn't even blinked at accepting a Thanksgiving invite.

Of course, it's usually: Football, food, drink beer.

Maybe it's because the ones that hated white people I didn't bother hanging around, because fuck those guys.
Do natives care about Columbus Day?
 
Do natives care about Columbus Day?
None of the rez dudes did.

Once in a while you'd get some girl who'd go to college and start yammering about shit like that.

Her dad or brother would usually just smack her in the mouth, tell her to shut the fuck up, and you wouldn't hear about it again or she'd leave for the big city.

Most guys I know on the rez, even though they have a casino now, are more worried about shit like "Huh, that's a lot of meth in my cousin's car..." and "Welp, the roof leaks again" and "Well, shit, Two-Dogs Fucking's kid is huffing gas he siphoned out of my generator again."

Course, I haven't been back in like 10 years, shit might be different now.
 
Now I may very well be mistaken given the contentious subject matter... but I'm fairly certain the tribes turned on the settlers first because the youth grew angry at their swelling numbers. The elders had thought it unfair to be cruel to the settlers and turn their back on them after having welcomed them, but eventually they died out or lost the political sway they held. So the youth in their anger attacked the settlers and pretty much started the whole mess we know now.

Basically the moral of the story is to beat your kids more.
 
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