The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[gang weeder]

Are you esl by chance? That would explain a lot.

Are you a faggot?

I'm actually curious if you can defend your position any further. Is your NPC programming broken?

 

[Anti-Intellectual]

Why does the argument of every pro abortion stance rely on diminishing the qualities of the human condition? Fetuses and unborn are referred to in almost inanimate manner despite displaying all signs of life pertinent to the definition of it. Every stipulation for abortion could be used against the proponents but would constitute murder if enacted.

 

[Lurker]

Why does the argument of every pro abortion anti-choice stance rely on diminishing the qualities of the human condition the woman carrying the fetus?

 

[gang weeder]

Why does the argument of every pro abortion stance rely on diminishing the qualities of the human condition? Fetuses and unborn are referred to in almost inanimate manner despite displaying all signs of life pertinent to the definition of it. Every stipulation for abortion could be used against the proponents but would constitute murder if enacted.

Because justification of abortion hinges on the notion that the organism being destroyed is not a human being. Dehumanization is a pretty obvious strategy in pursuit of proving that point. Thus "clump of cells," "parasite," etc.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Are you a faggot?

I'm actually curious if you can defend your position any further. Is your NPC programming broken?

You have repeatedly used words in bizarre ways I've never heard a single other person use them. I was genuinely asking if you are esl because that would explain why you seem to be missing certain subtleties with how these words are used. The only other option is that you are massively retarded and can't speak your first language properly.

I have literally never heard a corpse be referred to as a person. It is just meat. Even religious types would speak of a separate soul, but that is distinct from the corpse. Also you contradicted yourself in the two lines I quoted, your own internal logic is fucking bonkers.

Why does the argument of every pro abortion stance rely on diminishing the qualities of the human condition? Fetuses and unborn are referred to in almost inanimate manner despite displaying all signs of life pertinent to the definition of it. Every stipulation for abortion could be used against the proponents but would constitute murder if enacted.

Life =/= personhood. Fetuses are alive, fetuses are human, but they are not and have never been thinking or feeling individuals. That's really all it boils down to for me, I feel the same about a fetus/zygote as I do jizz in a sock. It's not people yet.

Because justification of abortion hinges on the notion that the organism being destroyed is not a human being. Dehumanization is a pretty obvious strategy in pursuit of proving that point. Thus "clump of cells," "parasite," etc.

Wrong retard.

 

[Anti-Intellectual]

You have repeatedly used words in bizarre ways I've never heard a single other person use them. I was genuinely asking if you are esl because that would explain why you seem to be missing certain subtleties with how these words are used. The only other option is that you are massively retarded and can't speak your first language properly.

I have literally never heard a corpse be referred to as a person. It is just meat. Even religious types would speak of a separate soul, but that is distinct from the corpse. Also you contradicted yourself in the two lines I quoted, your own internal logic is fucking bonkers.


Life =/= personhood. Fetuses are alive, fetuses are human, but they are not and have never been thinking or feeling individuals. That's really all it boils down to for me, I feel the same about a fetus/zygote as I do jizz in a sock. It's not people yet.


Wrong retard.

Fetuses have basic neural pathways and they're in use while in development. You still don't address the position that a fetus, if left to develop, becomes a thinking person in due time whereas jizz on it's own, or inside a sock, does not. It's an important distinction that very few pro abortionists address.

 

[Lurker]

Fetuses have basic neural pathways and they're in use while in development. You still don't address the position that a fetus, if left to develop, becomes a thinking person in due time whereas jizz on it's own, or inside a sock, does not. It's an important distinction that very few pro abortionists address.

do a brain scan on a fetus, tell me if it's conscious or sentient. i'll be waiting.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

You sure about that? You kind of seem like a fetus to me lol

Unless you can detach the fetus and grow it in a jar, away from the psycho bitch who wants to kill it, you won't convince me of manslaughter lol

It's ironic. You right-wing retards keep tardraging about MUH GOVERNMENT CONTROL when it comes to the pandemic. Yet, you're totally fine with giving them control over women's bodies, not realizing that they could then take control of your body, too, retard. They could mandate organ and blood donation as mandatory.

Retard, abortion is literally government mandated legal murder lol
What the fuck are you talking about?

Abortion is about body autonomy and is not murder. Just because you hate women because none would ever touch you (and I don't blame them at all) doesn't mean you need to punish them for having sex

Besides, I thought you white nationalist retards from 4chan love BASED things? What's more BASED than abortion?

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Fetuses have basic neural pathways and they're in use while in development. You still don't address the position that a fetus, if left to develop, becomes a thinking person in due time whereas jizz on it's own, or inside a sock, does not. It's an important distinction that very few pro abortionists address.

First of all I'm largely neutral on abortion. I'm not so much pro as I just see it as a neutral act and don't see a need to ban it.

As for the development thing, I simply do not see any importance to it. What does it matter in this context?

 

[Niggaplease]

I'm not "falling back" on the fact that you were a whore.

Someone who has never, ever had a relationship with a man that didn't rent out her body for a triple digit lump sum or beat her black and blue for not making enough money renting out her body doesn't know anything about men. Someone who continuously put her own life in danger by deliberately surrounding herself with dangerous men should never talk about the value of life. Someone who readily sold her bodily autonomy isn't qualified to talk about the value of bodily autonomy. You no longer being a prostitute does not mean you magically no longer have those deficiencies.

You're ridiculous-- you can't stop calling me an incel because I don't like baby murder but you killing your body and soul and having no healthy relationships by default is somehow irrelevant.

Yet you keep pointing it out faggot.
incel fucking faggot.

 

[gang weeder]

You have repeatedly used words in bizarre ways I've never heard a single other person use them. I was genuinely asking if you are esl because that would explain why you seem to be missing certain subtleties with how these words are used. The only other option is that you are massively retarded and can't speak your first language properly.

I have literally never heard a corpse be referred to as a person. It is just meat. Even religious types would speak of a separate soul, but that is distinct from the corpse. Also you contradicted yourself in the two lines I quoted, your own internal logic is fucking bonkers.

Ironic as in your very next paragraph you acknowledge that fetuses are alive and are human. Your definition of personhood as electrical activity in the brain was challenged and you were totally unable to defend it, instead resorting to deflections, copes, and spamming insults. Even if my definition were also shown to be non-functional (something which you seem to have given up on trying for, as again, you just keep spamming insults instead of trying to engage substantively), yours clearly failed.

Instead of trying to find a more functional one, you're just posting the equivalent of "cope seethe have sex incel rent free." Looks like your programming short-circuited. Unfortunate.

Fetuses have basic neural pathways and they're in use while in development. You still don't address the position that a fetus, if left to develop, becomes a thinking person in due time whereas jizz on it's own, or inside a sock, does not. It's an important distinction that very few pro abortionists address.

Because there is no strong counter-argument to it. That's why they always inevitably deflect or devolve into ad hominem.

 

[PenneHead]

It's the only factor that ultimately matters in the issue, so it will need to be settled eventually.

If you can't afford birth control, don't have sex. You shouldn't be having sex outside of a committed relationship, ideally a marriage, anyways. Being a whore is not a human right.

The debate is never going to reach a middle ground because someone always wants to be the right one.

Birth control itself doesn’t even guarantee that you won’t get pregnant even with a condom on. Birth control should be more affordable for everyone if they want to lessen the numbers of abortions. Not just to help irregular periods. Having affordable means to having safe sex is important unfortunately not everyone is traditional. The goal should be lessening the numbers outright banning without considering the other negatives is a such a stupid decision.

 

[Lurker]

Yet you keep pointing it out faggot.
incel fucking faggot.

only a real man harps on a woman about her traumatic past that she had very little choice in. i guess it's easy for misogynistic incels to shit on women about forced prostitution because it's yet another thing that they will never have to deal with.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

It's ironic. You right-wing retards keep tardraging about MUH GOVERNMENT CONTROL when it comes to the pandemic. Yet, you're totally fine with giving them control over women's bodies, not realizing that they could then take control of your body, too, retard. They could mandate organ and blood donation as mandatory.

Retard, why don't you get out of Californian hot sun and travel arround, see how all those icky poo right-wing evil people actually live and compare it to whatever the shit fuck ass stain hive colony you're at. Might be surprised at who has more freedom and a better life.

Abortion is about body autonomy and is not murder.

Abortion is literally killing a human being for your sheer benefit. You can yap all you want about incest rape, won't change that you have to end one life to somehow "spare" pain for the woman carrying it.

Just because you hate women because none would ever touch you (and I don't blame them at all) doesn't mean you need to punish them for having sex

Retard, last I checked, it wasn't the right-wing ooga boogas pushing for troon rape gangs in women's prisons or the total anihilation of women's sports in favor of clown world beneficiaries.
Fuck man. You want a mandate to legally kill babies, give us a mandate to lynch pedo fags wearing girl dresses then.

yada yada still sucking cock yada yada

 

[Lurker]

Retard, why don't you get out of Californian hot sun and travel arround, see how all those icky poo right-wing evil people actually live and compare it to whatever the shit fuck ass stain hive colony you're at. Might be surprised at who has more freedom and a better life.

motherfucker, you don't even live in the US, sit your dumb ass down.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

motherfucker, you don't even live in the US, sit your dumb ass down.

Don't let your fat ass keep you on the bench too long, faget lol

 

[PenneHead]

 

[gang weeder]

The debate is never going to reach a middle ground because someone always wants to be the right one.

At one time in the past, slavery was as divisive as abortion is now. So divisive that we even went to war over it. But people who thought that debate would never be settled were wrong.

Birth control itself doesn’t even guarantee that you won’t get pregnant even with a condom on. Birth control should be more affordable for everyone if they want to lessen the numbers of abortions. Not just to help irregular periods. Having affordable means to having safe sex is important unfortunately not everyone is traditional. The goal should be lessening the numbers outright banning without considering the other negatives is a such a stupid decision.

I have a better way to lower the amount of abortions: Don't perform them. Problem solved. And also, don't be a whore, if you find that helpful.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Ironic as in your very next paragraph you acknowledge that fetuses are alive and are human.

Never denied it. And again with the ESL shit, there is no irony here retard.

Your definition of personhood as electrical activity in the brain

Quote me on that, faggot.

Even if my definition were also shown to be non-functional

Not if, was. Your definition is objectively shit because no one uses it like that.

Instead of trying to find a more functional one, you're just posting the equivalent of "cope seethe have sex incel rent free."

I have my definition. I'm not here to enlighten you, I'm here to play bully the retard.

 

[Lurker]

At one time in the past, slavery was as divisive as abortion is now. So divisive that we even went to war over it. But people who thought that debate would never be settled were wrong.

we went to war over it, and yet a certain part of the US is still kicking and screaming about "states rights" to this day.