The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[snailslime]

Conceding already? That's a record.

elaborate on what? did your sped class not teach you the basic alphabet in preschool?

 

[BULLY HUNTER_77]

I think I've answered this one previously in the thread. I don't have a solid answer to this one way or the other. I could see either side of that question, personally. The more relevant way to think about this situation is to imagine a coma patient who you know for a fact will wake up in a few months. What does a "nervous system respecter" do with this person?

There is actually a very thorough process that doctors go through to determine brain death. There is functionally zero chance that the person will ever wake up:

https://www.verywellhealth.com/brain-death-what-does-it-mean-3157217

Is it okay to kill them because their nervous system is not yet functioning, despite the certain knowledge that if simply given time, it will?

Careful, if you keep up this train of thought, you might fall into the infinite moralfag blackhole, where literally no one in history has the capacity to be moral. You could easily make the same argument about all unused sperm and egg cells - neither has a currently functioning nervous system either but if they were simply allowed to meet and given the time to develop, they would also certainly develop into a functioning nervous system. But then we cross the Event Horizon and every period and nighttime ejaculation becomes murder.

While your observation that humans are self-serving is obviously true in a general sense (again, it's pretty clear why a whore believes in "the right to choose"), I am curious what the self-serving aspect is for someone like me. Or better, for women who are pro-life, since the trope of "well you just want to re-enact the handmaid's tale" is harder to apply to them.

I believe this post sums it up:

Has anyone come up with an argument against abortion that is more than just muh feelings and muh Christ?

What is being served is your religious worldview IMO - Fetuses have a soul to you, correct?

 

[Mayor Adam West]

But then we cross the Event Horizon and every period and nighttime ejaculation becomes murder.

"Jacking off is genocide" — Some Protestant (probably)

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

elaborate on what? did your sped class not teach you the basic alphabet in preschool?

On the point you were trying to make, obviously. Are you retarded...?

 

[snailslime]

On the point you were trying to make, obviously. Are you retarded...?

oh, that you hate women?

wanna tell me why you made that comment on @Lurker's wall?

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

oh, that you hate women?

wanna tell me why you made that comment on @Lurker's wall?

Why I made that comment? What kind of question is that? It's obvious. Lurker was drumming up drama, and that's a very female thing to do.

Men and women differ in behavior. Men, aside from fags, don't typically behave that way. Are you suggesting noticing negative female traits is sexist? Men are violent, am I now a misandrist?

I'd like to quip "nice try", but that was a very poor attempt on your part.

 

[gang weeder]

at doctors go through to determine brain death. There is functionally zero chance that the person will ever wake up

Yes, but there is an extremely high chance that a fetus will. Hence the relevance of the comparison.

Careful, if you keep up this train of thought, you might fall into the infinite moralfag blackhole, where literally no one in history has the capacity to be moral. You could easily make the same argument about all unused sperm and egg cells - neither has a currently functioning nervous system either but if they were simply allowed to meet and given the time to develop, they would also certainly develop into a functioning nervous system. But then we cross the Event Horizon and every period and nighttime ejaculation becomes murder.

Yes, we went over that earlier in the thread. You didn't answer the question. If you're answer is "I don't know," just say that.

What is being served is your religious worldview IMO - Fetuses have a soul to you, correct?

My viewpoint is not based on religion. Not unless you think it's impossible for an atheist to be pro life I guess. As has been said many times by now, every atheist (or at least the vast majority) still consider it wrong to kill children.

 

[Horrorcow Death Lazer]

I'm against late-term abortions, the fetus ain't a fetus no more at that point. When it's still undeveloped and a fetus though, I think in cases of rape, incest, or danger to the mother's life, an abortion should be an option for the mother. Jut having abortions willy-nilly is irresponsible and wasteful.
I'm always up for being educated more on this though.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

My viewpoint is not based on religion. Not unless you think it's impossible for an atheist to be pro life I guess. As has been said many times by now, every atheist (or at least the vast majority) still consider it wrong to kill children.

You know I've never understood why people view atheists as overwhelmingly pro choice. I mean unfortunately it's a majority but it's not absolute. Even as a Catholic, my opposition to abortion isn't just because the Church says that it's wrong. Science tells me that this is a human life, and my religion is what tells me that this is worth protecting. So long as you have those two components, you can easily arrive at the conclusion that abortion is wrong.

 

[snailslime]

Why I made that comment? What kind of question is that? It's obvious. Lurker was drumming up drama, and that's a very female thing to do.

lol who says?

your bias is very obvious, are you not noticing because you're autistic?

 

[Mayor Adam West]

I'm against late-term abortions, the fetus ain't a fetus no more at that point. When it's still undeveloped and a fetus though, I think in cases of rape, incest, or danger to the mother's life, an abortion should be an option for the mother. Jut having abortions willy-nilly is irresponsible and wasteful.
I'm always up for being educated more on this though.

I kinda get where your coming from. It is indeed true that not every pregnancy is wanted or occurs in the best circumstances. However, this is a human being that we are talking about at the end of the day. I cannot think of any justification for an abortion other than perhaps to save the life of the mother. Ultimately I think that we as a society need to do a lot more to help vulnerable women who get pregnant in these circumstances.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

lol who says?

your bias is very obvious, are you not noticing because you're autistic?

"Who says"? These observations are not uncommon. Or do you think men aren't more violent and/or aggressive on average than women...?

You're not one of those retards who thinks men and women are exactly the same except with different genitals, right? Behavioral differences in men and women are real.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_77]

Yes, we went over that earlier in the thread. You didn't answer the question. If you're answer is "I don't know," just say that.

I also already went over this in an earlier post too. The nervous system respecter only respects a fully functioning nervous system. Anything that's disposed of earlier, whether sperm, egg, or fetus constitutes contraception. It's really quite simple.

 

[snailslime]

"Who says"? These observations are not uncommon. Or do you think men aren't more violent and/or aggressive on average than women...?

if men could get pregnant i wouldn't agree with passing laws harming their bodily autonomy. you hate women and you want us to have no rights.

how was @Lurker stirring drama?

 

[Horrorcow Death Lazer]

I kinda get where your coming from. It is indeed true that not every pregnancy is wanted or occurs in the best circumstances. However, this is a human being that we are talking about at the end of the day. I cannot think of any justification for an abortion other than perhaps to save the life of the mother. Ultimately I think that we as a society need to do a lot more to help vulnerable women who get pregnant in these circumstances.

I can see where you're coming from too! I think if vulnerable women had more resources to help them, we'd need less abortions to begin with. I hate seeing a life lost, but the world we're in right now kinda sucks. Here's me being optimistic, but as long as we keep fighting for what's right, things will someday get better!

 

[Mayor Adam West]

if men could get pregnant i wouldn't agree with passing laws harming their bodily autonomy. you hate women and you want us to have no rights.

Joke's on you, I don't even think condoms should be legal. Checkmate liberal!

Also Planned Parenthood disagrees with you on the whole "men can't get pregnant" thing but then again they kill kids so who cares what they think.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

I can see where you're coming from too! I think if vulnerable women had more resources to help them, we'd need less abortions to begin with. I hate seeing a life lost, but the world we're in right now kinda sucks. Here's me being optimistic, but as long as we keep fighting for what's right, things will someday get better!

I ultimately believe that the solution to this problem is eliminating the need for abortion and then banning it. If basically no one is getting an abortion it becomes a moot point.

 

[gang weeder]

I also already went over this in an earlier post too. The nervous system respecter only respects a fully functioning nervous system. Anything that's disposed of earlier, whether sperm, egg, or fetus constitutes contraception. It's really quite simple.

That wasn't the question. The question was that of a coma patient who you know will become conscious in a few months.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

if men could get pregnant i wouldn't agree with passing laws harming their bodily autonomy.

Killing offspring =/= exercising bodily autonomy

You hate women

Proof? I don't hate men or women. I hate fags, I hate niggers, I hate baby killers of either gender. But do I hate women generally? No, I have no reason to. There's elements of female behavior I dislike, but same for men.

and you want us to have no rights.

False. I think women deserve almost every right men do, but with some restrictions, such as becoming soldiers. I think men and women have roles in society, that's not hatred, just adherence to traditional values.

how was @Lurker stirring drama?

No need to derail the thread any further.

 

[snailslime]

Killing offspring =/= exercising bodily autonomy

good thing no living person is being killed

Proof? I don't hate men or women. If hate fags, I hate niggers, I hate baby killers of either gender.

classy

But do I hate women generally? No, I have no reason to. There's elements of female behavior I dislike, but same for men.

uh huh

False. I think women deserve almost every right men do, but with some restrictions, such as becoming soldiers. I think men and women have roles in society, that's not hatred, just adherence to traditional values.

cringe

No need to derail the thread any further.

you are the one who accused her of stirring drama.