The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[gang weeder]

This anti-sex stuff is really just kind of silly. Whatever your angle is, you should refrain from saying this sort of thing. Sex is inherently recreational. Procreative sex is just recreational sex without protection, even fundamentalists understand this. They don't expect you to have sex for the explicit purpose of having a baby, you have sex because you want to and then a baby results as a passively accepted result.

No, sex is reproductive, as in that is the biological reason that it exists. If it had no reproductive function, we would not have evolved to find it so pleasurable. If you believe that "abstinence is wrong," let me ask you: If a teenager in high school asked you if they should have sex now or try to wait until they are an adult, what would you tell them?

People kill other people all the time, children too. American troops in the Middle East kill children all the time, it's just something they have to do. A clueless child with an explosive belt put on them by their parents is still 'innocent', but that doesn't take away the practical danger they present to you. Maybe you'll cry and ask God/whoever for forgiveness later, but in the moment you would be a moron not to shoot them.

Yes, we typically allow for killing when deemed necessary for self-defense. This justification clearly cannot apply in the case of a fetus. So far as I know, the Taliban has not yet figured out how to use fetuses in the wombs of American women as suicide bombers. So I ask you again: Do you believe that killing children is wrong? Not an Afghani child strapped with a suicide bomb vest, a normal American child who poses no threat to anyone?

But as I said, I think there are extreme situations where you can justify killing infants. Everyone thinks this, they just don't have the balls to say it out loud. I know you're going to sperg out about this, but it's literally in the bible.

I am not referring to "tard babies." I am asking you about normal, healthy infants. According to you, killing one such infant would be the same as killing a puppy, correct?

 

[Michael Pemulis]

No, sex is reproductive, as in that is the biological reason that it exists. If it had no reproductive function, we would not have evolved to find it so pleasurable. If you believe that "abstinence is wrong," let me ask you: If a teenager in high school asked you if they should have sex now or try to wait until they are an adult, what would you tell them?



Yes, we typically allow for killing when deemed necessary for self-defense. This justification clearly cannot apply in the case of a fetus. So far as I know, the Taliban has not yet figured out how to use fetuses in the wombs of American women as suicide bombers. So I ask you again: Do you believe that killing children is wrong? Not an Afghani child strapped with a suicide bomb vest, a normal American child who poses no threat to anyone?



I am not referring to "tard babies." I am asking you about normal, healthy infants. According to you, killing one such infant would be the same as killing a puppy, correct?

I'm not going to answer your retarded leading questions, I've pretty much laid out my entire view on this. I'm sorry you didn't get laid in high school but you should really get over it.

 

[Skitarii]

Sad but heartwarming video. Man is doing a job that few would step up to.

 

[gang weeder]

I'm not going to answer your retarded leading questions, I've pretty much laid out my entire view on this. I'm sorry you didn't get laid in high school but you should really get over it.

Because you can't answer them without exposing the obvious immorality of your position. Thanks for the confirmation.

 

[Muh Vagina]

Yeah sorry I don’t have empathy for your sorry ass, must be because some tards just can’t function correctly socially. They need assistance from both parents and people, tards are just people who have less motor skills. So curse you, curse your mama, and curse your father you clump of shit. Rate me those top hats I’m justified in my rant.

You should probably read the Hartley Hooligans thread from beginning to end if you believe that those girls merely had "less motor skills". Their lives were constant pain and suffering.

Those kids were born because their mother is an insane attention-whore who saw them as nothing but a method of getting clout on social media, not because she didn't have access to abortion. Get your story straight, man.

It doesn't change the fact that you retards believe that non-attention whores should be forced to give birth to these potatoes.

 

[Stoneheart]

It doesn't change the fact that you retards believe that non-attention whores should be forced to give birth to these potatoes.

Nobody would have a problem with PP if they would still follow their eugenic roots.

 

[Shidoen]

You should probably read the Hartley Hooligans thread from beginning to end if you believe that those girls merely had "less motor skills". Their lives were constant pain and suffering.

It doesn't change the fact that you retards believe that non-attention whores should be forced to give birth to these potatoes.

Man, I meant tards in general, stop trying to misquote me because you got the same brain space as your profile pic. Even if they didn't have all the medical problems, it was the parents who were at fault dressing em up and fucking shit up.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Do you know that more blacks are aborted in NYC then born?

PolitiFact - Cynthia Meyer says more black babies are aborted in New York City than born

During the first Democratic presidential debate in October 2015, Hillary Clinton proclaimed, "We’ve got to be committed

www.politifact.com

Imagine how much more dangerous the USA would be without it our crime rate would skyrocket yet I guess punishing women is more important for you people.

Also why are u so obsessed with gay people and troons?

I heard that but didn't know it was a fact. That's rather concerning, but it doesn't change the morality of the matter. And drop the victim act, nobody is being punished by being denied a frivolous abortion, merely held responsible.

LGBT and black people are a scourge upon society, simple as that, no obsession with them.

As many fat jokes get thrown around on this site I have to say I really fear for the lives of these obese women after this upcoming supreme court ruling.

Weight is also a personal responsibility, like willingly engaging in activity you know may result in an unwanted pregnancy. Lose weight. Prevent the pregnancy however necessary.

You say this, but every single one of your points are Christian sperging and this could be deduced very easily.

That's an appeal to motive fallacy and totally irrelevant, instead of "deducing" where his arguments stem from or are influenced by, how about you contend with them directly? You can't, nothing he said was incorrect and you can only screech about a religion nobody but you and the baby killer crew keep bringing up.

BTW I've not heard you make a single factual statement that isn't some form of fundamentalism or moralfagging.

If you hate "moralfagging" so much then go cry at the baby killing Wokeists. That's the modern version of "moralfagging", calling someone "incel" is just their equivalent of "sinner!!" Every culture will have moral standards and enforce them, which is what they're doing.

Fucking tiresome, I mostly identify with the pro-life crowd because I'm mostly against abortion and then it turns out the pro-lifers are all sycophantic fundamentalists. Just get yourself a real argument that doesn't stem from your religious beliefs for fuck's sake.

There's plenty of Atheists and Agnostics who are against abortion and argue identically to gang weeder. There's not too many ways you can oppose abortion, as far as I can tell it's either for moral or utilitarian reasons (maybe there's others I haven't considered).

People kill other people all the time, children too. American troops in the Middle East kill children all the time, it's just something they have to do. A clueless child with an explosive belt put on them by their parents is still 'innocent', but that doesn't take away the practical danger they present to you. Maybe you'll cry and ask God/whoever for forgiveness later, but in the moment you would be a moron not to shoot them.

Is this honestly supposed to somehow correlate to abortion?

 

[snailslime]

Because you can't answer them without exposing the obvious immorality of your position. Thanks for the confirmation.

all your [shit] arguments have already been debunked yet you still manage to make yourself look more retarded than all the babies in the tard baby thread.

 

[gang weeder]

all your [shit] arguments have already been debunked yet you still manage to make yourself look more retarded than all the babies in the tard baby thread.

Tard babies tard babies tard tard tard. Is that the only thing you can think about?

 

[snailslime]

Tard babies tard babies tard tard tard. Is that the only thing you can think about?

yes because this thread is full of em

 

[Shidoen]

yes because this thread is full of em

Spoiler

Lol I probably am, some fag shot up the hospital I was born in on the same day.

 

[Michael Pemulis]

Is this honestly supposed to somehow correlate to abortion?

If you want to hold this discussion with me, cycle back to the beginning and read what I wrote and work from there. The past few posts were just a pissing match with an actual 18 year old incel, which I finally got bored of.

I disagree with you but you seem reasonably intelligent, I do not intend to bicker with you in the same way.

 

[gang weeder]

If you want to hold this discussion with me, cycle back to the beginning and read what I wrote and work from there. The past few posts were just a pissing match with an actual 18 year old incel, which I finally got bored of.

I disagree with you but you seem reasonably intelligent, I do not intend to bicker with you in the same way.

I look forward to finally seeing your answer, O Wise One.

 

[snailslime]

Lol. No. I am a man who has grown up surrounded by killers who walked free from justice. And I cannot stand it.

surely you feel the same way about millions of women whose male abusers walk free?

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

surely you feel the same way about millions of women whose male abusers walk free?

Yes. If a man physically abuses a woman, he should face justice for that too.

 

[snailslime]

Yes. If a man physically abuses a woman, he should face justice for that too.

should she have to carry his baby if he rapes her?

 

[Astro Loafo]

Honestly, the moral reason to ban abortion is because it's wrong to kill.

But the secular reason to ban abortion is to protect the innocent. This is because people below 18 or adulthood do not have the same rights and may be exploited. As such it is the state's obligation to protect and intercede when exploitation occurs. As well, to deny the unborn denies the humanity of a person and the nature of humans.

Now the argument for abortion always is a claim that a human isn't a human until *unspecified moment but generally towards near birth*. But even that definition isn't really true, because it contradicts the very nature of humans.


The other argument is that the child shouldn't be born in a household where he is unwanted. But this isn't something that can hold in court with a child at any age.


But I find that the true reason to keep abortion legal is always going to be some emotionally driven, unscientific, selfish, and absurd reason that wouldn't hold up in court under any other circumstances.


And to those that don't like this, if you can't accept that a living human fetus with his own DNA is a person then a you might as well call men women since DNA defines nothing.

 

[snailslime]

Honestly, the moral reason to ban abortion is because it's wrong to kill.

But the secular reason to ban abortion is to protect the innocent. This is because people below 18 or adulthood do not have the same rights and may be exploited. As such it is the state's obligation to protect and intercede when exploitation occurs. As well, to deny the unborn denies the humanity of a person and the nature of humans.

Now the argument for abortion always is a claim that a human isn't a human until *unspecified moment but generally towards near birth*. But even that definition isn't really true, because it contradicts the very nature of humans.


The other argument is that the child shouldn't be born in a household where he is unwanted. But this isn't something that can hold in court with a child at any age.


But I find that the true reason to keep abortion legal is always going to be some emotionally driven, unscientific, selfish, and absurd reason that wouldn't hold up in court under any other circumstances.


And to those that don't like this, if you can't accept that a living human fetus with his own DNA is a person then a you might as well call men women since DNA defines nothing.

abortion isn't murder, your pasta is stupid

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

should she have to carry his baby if he rapes her?

Yes. His crime does not permit her to commit a crime.