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Those same organisations say you become a woman when you cut your dick off.
The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.
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Those same organisations say you become a woman when you cut your dick off.
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I mean, your preferred sources use a book of fairy tales to back up their "arguments", so...
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So you admit you have no actual data, but believe your arguments are valid because you think the other side is just worse?
Ghjkl63
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tip harder, reddit atheist
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Recreational abortion is the #1 craziest clown world dystopian nightmare that actually exists today.
I am a bit jealous of pro-choicers who can be at peace in their world. They've advocated for normalizing the brutal ancient custom of infanticide through a clean surgery and sugarcoated movement. All the same arguments used for burying your kid in a premade hole immediately after birth carry over with little modification. What is the result? 1 in 4 women have abortions. 1 in 5 pregnancies are aborted. Abortion on the rise since 2017. Every time you and three friends are together, someone's brother who should be there got flushed. Romania at one point had 95% of all pregnancies aborted. What if we reach that and stay there? We've all survived this man-made gauntlet. These stats, coupled with the grisly details of the later term stuff (don't worry, they are only 1% of 600,000/year and counting lol) cause me great anxiety and reflection on humanity. If anyone has any advice on how to ignore or cope with these haunting details, please provide.
I think diligent women should have an out early on, but I'm not very sympathetic at all to the 'oops' reason. There should always be downward pressure on elective abortions. I am for nearly anything that empowers women to keep that shit taking root if they don't want it to.
If you've mothered or fathered an abortion, I hope that dick/pussy was good because it was a blood trade you've made.
I am a bit jealous of pro-choicers who can be at peace in their world. They've advocated for normalizing the brutal ancient custom of infanticide through a clean surgery and sugarcoated movement. All the same arguments used for burying your kid in a premade hole immediately after birth carry over with little modification. What is the result? 1 in 4 women have abortions. 1 in 5 pregnancies are aborted. Abortion on the rise since 2017. Every time you and three friends are together, someone's brother who should be there got flushed. Romania at one point had 95% of all pregnancies aborted. What if we reach that and stay there? We've all survived this man-made gauntlet. These stats, coupled with the grisly details of the later term stuff (don't worry, they are only 1% of 600,000/year and counting lol) cause me great anxiety and reflection on humanity. If anyone has any advice on how to ignore or cope with these haunting details, please provide.
I think diligent women should have an out early on, but I'm not very sympathetic at all to the 'oops' reason. There should always be downward pressure on elective abortions. I am for nearly anything that empowers women to keep that shit taking root if they don't want it to.
If you've mothered or fathered an abortion, I hope that dick/pussy was good because it was a blood trade you've made.
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From abortionprodecures.com:
"A dilation (dilatation) and evacuation abortion, D&E, is a surgical abortion procedure during which an abortionist first dilates the woman’s cervix and then uses instruments to dismember and extract the baby from the uterus. The D&E abortion procedure is usually performed between thirteen and twenty-four weeks LMP (that is thirteen to twenty-four weeks after the first day of the woman’s last menstrual period)."
So a fetus is being dismembered by a metal tool during a second trimester abortion. That by itself is disturbing.
More from the source:
Week 13
At week thirteen LMP, the preborn baby’s fingerprints are visible, and the child’s organs are visible through his or her thin skin. The baby is roughly three inches long during this stage of pregnancy. Source: Baby Center.
Week 16
At week sixteen LMP, the child’s toenails begin to form, and his or her face and limbs are much more developed. The baby’s heart is pumping roughly 25 quarts of blood every day, and will continue as the child develops in the womb. Many mothers feel the baby move by this point in the pregnancy. Source: Baby Center.
Week 20
At twenty weeks LMP, the child’s nervous system is developed enough to feel pain. Research by the University of Toronto shows that babies at this stage can feel pain in the womb — even with greater intensity than adults. Almost all mothers feel the baby move by this point in pregnancy. Source: Baby Center.
Week 24
At twenty-four weeks LMP, the baby is roughly a foot long, and his or her brain is developing rapidly. The child’s lungs are also developing into their branch-like structure. At this age, almost all babies can survive outside the mother if given proper support. Source: Baby Center.So this fetus -- which in the second trimester beings to look like an infant, begins to have a heartbeat, and begins to feel pain -- is getting dismembered into giblets and then sucked out of his greedy mother's vagina. You think that's okay?
According to: https://www.uptodate.com/contents/overview-of-second-trimester-pregnancy-termination/print
10-15% of abortions are second-trimester abortions.
From: https://www.mdch.state.mi.us/osr/abortion/Tab_US.asp
862,300 legal abortions were conducted in 2021. Let's lowball an estimate of around 80,000 second-trimester abortions in the United States during this year. That was 80,000 fetuses, like the above, getting "dismembered". Let's not try and deny the fact that abortions are abhorrent. They are. But should they be legal? I'd argue that first-trimester abortions are maybe permissible, and in the cases of rape the answer is clearly yes.
However, that simply assumes we are taking the priors of the pro-abortion crowd and running with them.
What if we reject them? Many women who are pro-abortion say 'my body, my rights', but what if she is sharing her body with another? Does the fetus, perhaps a she, not have rights to her own body as well? If a fetus reaches a point in its inception where without any kind of foreign intervention it would go on to become a human, then at that point of inception the woman carrying the fetus is sharing her body with another human. It would be unethical to deny the rights of that human so as to cover for the irresponsible decisions of her mother.
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I have been posting actual data ever since the beginning of this thread. You pro-life tards cite the bible. You have no science to back up your arguments and when you do try to claim that you have science on your sides, it's always been debunked by actual scientists.
Suck my taint, Christfag.
abortionprocedures.com is a part of Live Action, a zealous pro-life organization. Nice try. Next time cite a non-Christfag source.
hellogoodmorning
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Done.
From planned parenthood:
- stretch the opening of your cervix with a series of dilating rods if you haven’t had them put in earlier
- insert a thin tube through your cervix into your uterus
- use a small, hand-held device that removes pregnancy tissue out of your uterus
- possibly use a small surgical tool called a curette to remove any tissue that’s left in your uterus, or check to make sure your uterus is totally empty.
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Why do you refuse to admit D&E abortions exist? You can use prettier words to describe is all you want, but it's fucking horrifying. Defend your position or at least moderate it. You can say "late term abortions are horrible but necessary". Nobody is forcing you to pretend these things are pretty.
Super-Chevy454
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No need to guess then the pro-abortion side will be triggered by this meme.
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I wouldn't imagine so seeing as the vaccine is harmless.
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Abortion is great.
I'm not surprised that the nigger loving republicans want to flood this country with more blacks though.
I'm not surprised that the nigger loving republicans want to flood this country with more blacks though.
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But you're the one who defines what is and isn't 'pro-life'. You don't read anything you're given in response, you just instantly dismiss it as 'pro-life propaganda'. But the thing is, anything anti-abortion is inherently pro-life.
You tell me; how is anyone supposed to make an argument against abortion that isn't pro-life? Tell me what argument against abortion you would accept and what evidence you'd need to find it credible.
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you've posted exactly zero actual data. the actual data proves your claims wrong. seething like a reddit atheist just proves you know it.
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In practice, opposing abortion in the case of severe, incompatible-with-life fetal abnormality and opposing abortion when the mothers life is at risk would be two ways to be anti-choice and anti-life at the same time, and at least some pro-lifers seem to think those positions are reasonable.
What’s the Christian rationale against abortion? I obviously have my own beliefs, but I’m much better versed than any of you so I’d like to see what tard-brain citations y’all can come up with.
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It would have to be a utilitarian argument and/or an argument that is feminist. Ideally both. That is the perspective that she's coming from, and the challenge would be to conjure a sound argument that doesn't begin with God as an assumption. I think I made a good argument from this framework but she hasn't responded yet.
The issue with close-minded people like her is that even though you may argue from her assumptions, she will never return that courtesy. I could call her a retard and dismiss her, but to be honest I feel bad for her. She's part of a fundamentalist religion and she doesn't even know it.
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I never denied that D & E abortions exist, Erischan/Feetloaf. They're simply not what you believe they are. Nobody is jamming scissors into the fetus' skull.
Maybe if you spergs didn't link to sources that make it their mission to eradicate abortion? There's a clear agenda and you tards don't even bother to hide it. At least the medical and gynecological resources that I post don't hyperfocus on abortion.
I have been in this thread for a very long time. You're just too lazy to find the links that I've posted. None of your pro-life propaganda sources have proven me wrong.
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What about the agenda behind pushing for more abortions? Do you think the medical industry performs them entirely out of the goodness of its heart? Don't you think that maybe there might be some kind of financial incentive for people to push for abortion?
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Oh, look, a disingenuous exaggeration of what I said.
Maybe that's because pro-abortion sources don't generally post the data pro-lifers want to use.... huh....
"Dude, I already won this argument, trust me"
Ghjkl63
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if you had actual proof you'd have posted it ad nauseum by now to own the chuds