The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[AnotherPleb]

it’s over.

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Gotta stop the old one before starting the new one in the primaries.

How hard was it to just say abortion for any reason allowed up until the moment of birth when asked what you want the law to be?

Because she knows how revolting that idea is to the majority of people.

Ask yourself why it took 50 years for Roe v. Wade to be enacted into federal law. All of this could've been avoided if the government actually did right for its citizens instead of dangling the keys for years. Hell, an agreement was being finalized to recognize abortion for 12 weeks federally I believe. Democrats said no, so now Republicans have gotten a win out of pure spite.

The DNC thought that was a safe dangle issue because they assumed the Supreme Court would never undo anything that hot button by leaving it to the states even if it was super shaky. In other words, they thought they could have their cake and eat it too.

 

[derpherp2]

why aren't you having sex

Why aren't you?
Like it's infinitely easy to shag a guy and yet here you are, not sucking cock. Complaining about not getting laid, trying to resolve your pent up daddy issues and ticking biological clock/abortion fetish on KF. Of all fucking places.

Like seriously, get a better source of social gratification. Femcel.

There's an abortion debate containment thread. Stop shitting this one up.

The dumb whore went to the most famous thread on A&N immediately for attention and it's p obvious. Especially since she immediately bitched about muh abortions.
Probably thinks this is "derailing" the thread too.

 

[Übertroon]

My moral stance is that it's not the government's business what consenting adults do with their bodies.

But if you did decide to keep the child you want the government to hold the father responsible?
Truth is as soon as you concieve the government gets involved, that's why smoking crack while pregnant is considered child abuse, and why you are not allowed to have a child with your biological sibling.
Never has it been an excuse that you're "two consenting adults", it's illegal to shoot someone even if he consents.
What you and another retard decides to do is no longer a private concern the moment you decided to do it unprotected

 

[General Emílio Médici]

I wonder how well it would turn out if we offered american women the choice: Abortions up to birth everywhere but no child support at all, or complete child support but no abortions whatsoever.

Would be a very interesting shouting match of women.

 

[Sithis]

I wonder how well it would turn out if we offered american women the choice: Abortions up to birth everywhere but no child support at all, or complete child support but no abortions whatsoever.

Would be a very interesting shouting match of women.

They'd just shirk the law by upping alimony payments and divorce stats would go up.

Abandoning the rule of thumb was a foolish choice. Should've been revised to the rule of wrist.

 

[Curly_]

it's inside my body. It can't live without my bodily resources. Why should someone be obligated under threat of gov-gun to use their bodily resources against their will? Because YOU want to own the libs that bad?

To quote a man, "Babies are the result of sex in the same way death is a result of stabbing. Yes, you can try to stab someone in a way which will not kill them, but if they die anyway despite your precautions, you're still morally responsible for killing them. You chose to do something that often results in the creation of a human being that cannot live without you, you bear the moral consequences of that act."
That said, all this "bodily autonomy" and "personhood" bullshit is pure fabricated copium designed to obscure as much as possible the simple fact that intentionally aborting a child (killing them) is murder, the murder of a human being that you're responsible for causing simply because you just didn't feel like being a mother. There is no moral difference between vacuuming your fetus out of your cunt after having the doc puree it for you or throwing your newborn in the dumpster, the reasons and end result in each case are still one and the same.

 

[Freya]

>the anime pfp trannies whining about how the government needs to punish women for having sex

hmmmm interesting

Why is it society's job to handle your lack of personal responsibility?

I'm not even pro abortion but is there some reason you or your partner are unable to use the several dozen or so easy and cheap contraception methods? If you engage in reckless behavior and refuse to take any precautionary measures why does society owe you a solution?

Why are you personally that important?

These are all terrible strawmans. I never said they did. I said they should leave people alone. I never said society should force people to pay for someone else's abortion. I don't see how not wanting the government to go to extraordinary lengths to regulate people's medical decisions makes someone think they're "personally important." You're twisting yourself into pretzels to own the libs, tranime pfp #1.

What you and another retard decides to do is no longer a private concern the moment you decided to do it unprotected

no. it's not anyone's concern what happens inside my uterus

To quote a man, "Babies are the result of sex in the same way death is a result of stabbing. Yes, you can try to stab someone in a way which will not kill them, but if they die anyway despite your precautions, you're still morally responsible for killing them. You chose to do something that often results in the creation of a human being that cannot live without you, you bear the moral consequences of that act."
That said, all this "bodily autonomy" and "personhood" bullshit is pure fabricated copium designed to obscure as much as possible the simple fact that intentionally aborting a child (killing them) is murder, the murder of a human being that you're responsible for causing simply because you just didn't feel like being a mother. There is no moral difference between vacuuming your fetus out of your cunt after having the doc puree it for you or throwing your newborn in the dumpster, the reasons and end result in each case are still one and the same.

Ask yourself why it took 50 years for Roe v. Wade to be enacted into federal law. All of this could've been avoided if the government actually did right for its citizens instead of dangling the keys for years. Hell, an agreement was being finalized to recognize abortion for 12 weeks federally I believe. Democrats said no, so now Republicans have gotten a win out of pure spite.

What the republicans were pushing was a ban at 15 weeks. That was not the floor. That was an absolute ceiling. Of course the dems wouldn't agree. And where are the republicans winning?

 

[St.Davis]

yes it is. If I want to have an abortion and fundies won't let me, that is against my will.

Have you considered simply not getting yourself pregnant? You put yourself in that position, and would like to strip the bodily autonomy of your child in order to avoid the consequences of your own knowing actions.

Attempting to now strawman about rape or somesuch is a cope. Most abortions are due to poor decision making, not rape.

 

[Freya]

Have you considered simply not getting yourself pregnant? You put yourself in that position, and would like to strip the bodily autonomy of your child in order to avoid the consequences of your own knowing actions.

Attempting to now strawman about rape or somesuch is a cope. Most abortions are due to poor decision making, not rape.

"have you considered just never making a mistake?" This is the level righttards are at.

A fertilized egg is not a child and has no bodily autonomy. It cannot exist without the bodily resources of another person. Why does everyone keep using the word "consequences"? It is clear all of you people are just pretending to care about an embryo because you want to "own the thots" or whatever meme is popular now

 

[elite_club]

>the anime pfp trannies whining about how the government needs to punish women for having sex

>not being allowed to kill children in the womb is a punishment for having sex

Only as much as child support is punishment for men having sex.

 

[St.Davis]

"have you considered just never making a mistake?" This is the level righttards are at.

A fertilized egg is not a child and has no bodily autonomy. It cannot exist without the bodily resources of another person. Why does everyone keep using the word "consequences"? It is clear all of you people are just pretending to care about an embryo because you want to "own the thots" or whatever meme is popular now

Having sex without any sort of protection isn't a "mistake", you know what happens if you do it.

The child wouldn't need to "use your bodily resources" if you simply have your boyfriend wear a condom. This is an entirely manufactured problem on your end. You decided to get pregnant, why is it somehow your baby's fault?

You'd make this whole debate an awful lot easier for yourself if you simply described what you think the ruling on abortion should be, but you seem to be really averse to putting any sort of figure down for some reason. Why is that?

 

[Freya]

Having sex without any sort of protection isn't a "mistake", you know what happens if you do it.

The child wouldn't need to "use your bodily resources" if you simply have your boyfriend wear a condom. This is an entirely manufactured problem on your end. You decided to get pregnant, why is it somehow your baby's fault?

So what? why do you have this fixation with punishing people you don't know? Mind your own business. not your place to punish people you schoolmarm.

You'd make this whole debate an awful lot easier for yourself if you simply described what you think the ruling on abortion should be, but you seem to be really averse to putting any sort of figure down for some reason. Why is that?

I already did retard. You people just can't read.

 

[Curly_]

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Nice picture of an empty seven-week gestational sac. If you think that's an actual counterargument and were a true and honest woman, then maybe you should post what's actually supposed to be inside of it. Just Google "seven-week human embryo". It's that simple. But no, you're such a dumb cunt that, despite complaining about others not knowing anything of female biology, you think an empty gestational sac is a fucking fetus. You are retarded.

 

[Shidoen]

@Freya how hard is it to not just use protection? Despite what you can argue about birth control pills being banned a condom is more than readily available. Unless you’re one of those stoner hipster chicks, a condom is not hard to convince a guy to wear. Unless you’re a coal burner.

 

[Sniperwoof]

So what? why do you have this fixation with punishing people you don't know? Mind your own business. not your place to punish people you schoolmarm.


I already did retard. You people just can't read.

I've actually changed my mind completely because the sheer amount of psychopathy that oozes from every one of your posts is very unsettling.

Whatever kind of fucked up genes are swimming around in your bloodstream not being passed on is a net benefit to humanity.

 

[Mr. Cow]

@Freya I'm curious, do you think people should be responsible for their actions?

 

[St.Davis]

So what? why do you have this fixation with punishing people you don't know? Mind your own business. not your place to punish people you schoolmarm.


I already did retard. You people just can't read.

I'm glad you're willing to at least admit that you're putting yourself in an easily avoidable position rather than being somehow forced to let people cum inside you.

I have no idea why you think you're being "punished". Not being able to kill something is hardly a punishment. Again, simply make an effort to avoid pregnancy and you don't need to even contemplate an abortion.

If "your business" only affected you then nobody would care.

 

[Louisville Slugger]

To quote a man, "Babies are the result of sex in the same way death is a result of stabbing. Yes, you can try to stab someone in a way which will not kill them, but if they die anyway despite your precautions, you're still morally responsible for killing them. You chose to do something that often results in the creation of a human being that cannot live without you, you bear the moral consequences of that act."
That said, all this "bodily autonomy" and "personhood" bullshit is pure fabricated copium designed to obscure as much as possible the simple fact that intentionally aborting a child (killing them) is murder, the murder of a human being that you're responsible for causing simply because you just didn't feel like being a mother. There is no moral difference between vacuuming your fetus out of your cunt after having the doc puree it for you or throwing your newborn in the dumpster, the reasons and end result in each case are still one and the same.

Fuck that. I've had an abortion and if the situation happened the same, I'd have it again. If I want to kill something that relies on my body to live and was the result of failed birth control, then so fucking be it. You don't want an abortion, then don't fucking get one.

Women seem to have an almost genetic aversion to personal accountability. I remember as a young man a girl attempting to cheat on her fiance with me, laid down on her bed, and told me "You can do anything to me you want. But I'm not taking responsibility"

Lmao. As if you've ever seen a naked woman

 

[Mr. Cow]

Fuck that. I've had an abortion and if the situation happened the same, I'd have it again. If I want to kill something that relies on my body to live and was the result of failed birth control, then so fucking be it. You don't want an abortion, then don't fucking get one.

*If I want to kill my own child...
There, no need to thank me for the correction.

Lmao. As if you've ever seen a naked woman

Are you new to the internet?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

@Freya

I'm willing to concede on the abortion issue and make a deal with women. Women can abort as much as they like at any time in pregnancy but in exchange breast reductions are made entirely illegal. There might be a Holocaust of black children being aborted but there's also a Holocaust of perfect titties being chopped up and I know which one I care about most.

Would you take the deal