The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[FEETLOAF]

Just because your diseased mind can't fathom others point of view doesn't make your viewpoints the correct one.

If you can't get me to see your point of view, shockingly, I'm not going to change my point of view to accomodate yours.
This is the purpose of arguing your position. No one is going to take your viewpoint into consideration unless you make them.

But letting them starve because you want to get rid of social welfare isn't?

Yes, of course. "Letting someone starve" isn't a thing. Not interceding to save someone's life is fundamentally different from actively interceding to end their life. You have no obligation to feed everyone on earth. You are not a murderer just because you don't personally run a soup kitchen in Ethiopia.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

If you can't get me to see your point of view, shockingly, I'm not going to change my point of view to accomodate yours.
This is the purpose of arguing your position. No one is going to take your viewpoint into consideration unless you make them.

Your debilitating autism makes it impossible to see things from others perspective. To you, it's murder. To others, it's not a human being yet, so it's not murder. Just because you're a puritan boomer doesn't mean everyone is.

Yes, of course. "Letting someone starve" isn't a thing. Not interceding to save someone's life is fundamentally different from actively interceding to end their life. You have no obligation to feed everyone on earth. You are not a murderer just because you don't personally run a soup kitchen in Ethiopia.

You're the one who wants to not only force these women to have the babies, but also take away their welfare if they can't afford it. You also want women to be forced to deliver birth even when it would kill them. Or when the baby would be forced to live a life of pain (i.e. because of some debilitating condition). You're a monster who doesn't care about others. I don't know if it's because you're severely autistic or you're just sadistic on top of the autism, but either way, you're a horrible person

 

[FEETLOAF]

Your debilitating autism makes it impossible to see things from others perspective.

No, what makes it impossible is the absence of any convincing arguments to change my mind.

To you, it's murder. To others, it's not a human being yet, so it's not murder.

One or the other has to be right. It can't be both.

You're the one who wants to not only force these women to have the babies, but also take away their welfare if they can't afford it.

How does one afford welfare?

You're a monster who doesn't care about others.

Correct. We're talking about complete strangers here, obviously I don't care about them.
I care about morality.

I don't know if it's because you're severely autistic or you're just sadistic on top of the autism, but either way, you're a horrible person

Indifference to your suffering is not sadism.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

No, what makes it impossible is the absence of any convincing arguments to change my mind.

That's because no such arguments can ever exist in anything because your mind is diseased from debilitating autism.

One or the other has to be right. It can't be both.

You're right. It's not murder.

How does one afford welfare?

What? Welfare is for poor people. Like the SSDI you get from your crippling autism, only it's for poor people instead of tardbux for spazes.

Correct. We're talking about complete strangers here, obviously I don't care about them.
I care about morality.

So then you're okay with abortion?

Indifference to your suffering is not sadism.

It sure as hell is when you want to legislate that they have to suffer. You're a monster. You better hope your religion is wrong about hell or your puritanical ass will be burning in it

 

[FEETLOAF]

That's because no such arguments can ever exist in anything because your mind is diseased from debilitating autism.

Admitting that there are no arguments for your position isn't a good strategy if you want to be convincing.

You're right. It's not murder.

But to others it's a human being so it's murder!
Do you see how this logic isn't convincing?

What? Welfare is for poor people. Like the SSDI you get from your crippling autism, only it's for poor people instead of tardbux for spazes.

You said I want to take away her welfare "if she can't afford it."
How do you afford welfare?

So then you're okay with abortion?

No.

It sure as hell is when you want to legislate that they have to suffer.

I don't though. I don't want to legislate that they be forcibly impregnated and made to suffer. I just want to legislate that you cannot alleviate your suffering by doing immoral things like murder, or stealing. If someone is starving, I want him to be banned from stealing bread. That does not mean I actively want him to starve and will take actions to cause it to happen.
You are conflating these two things. Probably because you are genuinely too dumb to understand the distinction.

You better hope your religion is wrong about hell or your puritanical ass will be burning in it

It's not, so I won't.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Admitting that there are no arguments for your position isn't a good strategy if you want to be convincing.

I already gave you the argument, but your diseased mind just can't fathom a viewpoint of someone else. It's okay, it's the autism.

But to others it's a human being so it's murder!
Do you see how this logic isn't convincing?

Only evangelical tards think it's murder. The vast majority of people don't think it is.

You said I want to take away her welfare "if she can't afford it."
How do you afford welfare?

I meant if she can't afford the kid. Your autism is coming into play again. I thought you said you were smart? A smart person would've known what I was referring to.

I don't though. I don't want to legislate that they be forcibly impregnated and made to suffer. I just want to legislate that you cannot alleviate your suffering by doing immoral things like murder, or stealing. If someone is starving, I want him to be banned from stealing bread. That does not mean I actively want him to starve and will take actions to cause it to happen.
You are conflating these two things. Probably because you are genuinely too dumb to understand the distinction.

Nope. You want to legislate the even if the kid will be born to a life of suffering or the woman would die giving birth, she still has to do it. You're a monster. You're a murderer. You're a horrible, horrible person.

It's not, so I won't.

You sure as hell are. You want to legislate suffering and want to remove welfare. Jesus would kick your ass if he was here.

 

[FEETLOAF]

I already gave you the argument,

Where?

Only evangelical tards think it's murder. The vast majority of people don't think it is.

Damn bro you sure seem to have difficulty understanding that viewpoints other than yours exist.
Ironic.

I meant if she can't afford the kid.

Maybe she should get a job?

You want to legislate the even if the kid will be born to a life of suffering or the woman would die giving birth, she still has to do it.

You seem to think that all life is suffering so the first part is meaningless. As for the second, it's better to accept a risk to your life than to murder someone. Your attempt to guilt me for this perfectly coherent moral position isn't gonna work. I recommend trying argumentative tactics that might actually have success.

You sure as hell are. You want to legislate suffering and want to remove welfare. Jesus would kick your ass if he was here.

Thank you for your obviously well informed theological opinion, atheist coomer.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Where?

Up above. Did your autism make you blind or have bad memory, too?

Damn bro you sure seem to have difficulty understanding that viewpoints other than yours exist.
Ironic.

Okay boomer.

Maybe she should get a job?

Good luck finding daycare if you're poor. I know your chances of ever procreating are zero, but you should look up the cost of childcare.

You seem to think that all life is suffering so the first part is meaningless. As for the second, it's better to accept a risk to your life than to murder someone. Your attempt to guilt me for this perfectly coherent moral position isn't gonna work. I recommend trying argumentative tactics that might actually have success.

No, but you want to force women to have babies even if they would be forced to live a life of suffering or the mother would die on giving birth. You're a murderer and sadist. You're a sick fucker, even for one having a diseased mind from debilitating autism.

Thank you for your obviously well informed theological opinion, atheist coomer.
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I ain't wrong, retard. I grew up catholic. I grew up reading the bible. I know what Jesus said. Just because i am not anymore doesn't mean I don't remember what I read. Some of us don't have minds that are diseased from crippling autism and thus can remember things. I know it's hard for you to fathom that, but that's how it is.

 

[FEETLOAF]

Up above. Did your autism make you blind or have bad memory, too?

Sir this is a 196 page thread you're gonna need to be a bit more specific.

I ain't wrong, retard. I grew up catholic. I grew up reading the bible. I know what Jesus said. Just because i am not anymore doesn't mean I don't remember what I read. Some of us don't have minds that are diseased from crippling autism and thus can remember things. I know it's hard for you to fathom that, but that's how it is.

1. Catholics are heretics
2. The fact that you aren't christian anymore does in fact mean you never understood it in the first place.
3. Vague appeals like this aren't gonna work. If you want to claim I am sinning, please cite chapter and verse.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Sir this is a 196 page thread you're gonna need to be a bit more specific.

Like I said, it's not murder to people because the fetus isn't sentient. In my view, it's no more a human than a brick is a house. Your viewpoint is no more valid than mine, despite what your diseased mind thinks.

1. Catholics are heretics
2. The fact that you aren't christian anymore does in fact mean you never understood it in the first place.
3. Vague appeals like this aren't gonna work. If you want to claim I am sinning, please cite chapter and verse.

1. There goes your autism again.
2. I sure do. Have you actually read what Jesus preached? I doubt it since you're an evangelical, puritan boomer, but you should.
3. You really think Jesus would want people to suffer and want women to be forced to die giving birth? Why hold him as a deity if you think he's such a monster? I mean, I know why (you have crippling autism and your diseased mind just believes whatever your megachurch pastor says)

 

[Android raptor]

Didnt Feetloaf say he was going to be a priest? I guess it's not a catholic one then, huh.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Didnt Feetloaf say he was going to be a priest? I guess it's not a catholic one then, huh.

His crippling autism makes me want to be a fly on the wall in his seminary school

 

[Android raptor]

His crippling autism makes me want to be a fly on the wall in his seminary school

I hope he tells the other people there about us <3

 

[FEETLOAF]

In my view, it's no more a human than a brick is a house. Your viewpoint is no more valid than mine, despite what your diseased mind thinks.

My viewpoint is much more valid than yours, because I can present coherent arguments for it. That's why it's my viewpoint.

Like I said, it's not murder to people because the fetus isn't sentient.

Those people are wrong.

You really think Jesus would want people to suffer and want women to be forced to die giving birth? Why hold him as a deity if you think he's such a monster? I mean, I know why (you have crippling autism and your diseased mind just believes whatever your megachurch pastor says)

Noticing a lack of chapter and verse. It's almost like you're talking out your ass or something.

 

[Muh Vagina]

Abortion is murder.

Abortion is not considered murder according to the legal definition. You don't get to change that definition because fee fees.

tl;dr

 

[FEETLOAF]

You don't get to change that definition because fee fees.

Yeah we do. It's called voting.

 

[Male Idiot]

I am all for aborting darkies. I especially approved of George Floyd's abortion, which was progressively very late term.

It should have saved the state from paying his prison stay, but then the porch monkeys chimped out and it became costly. Why can't you just take care of protests like a civilised nation? China used tanks like a modern culture.

(Insert copypastas about how US military is the bestest ever because it can defeat stone age sandniggers)

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

My viewpoint is much more valid than yours, because I can present coherent arguments for it. That's why it's my viewpoint.

Lol no you don't. You just say your own retarded opinions as facts. I know it's because you have severely debilitating autism and your brain is diseased because of such, but you should try and work on seeing other peoples viewpoints and develop empathy. Even your fellow spaz Chris Chan tried that

Those people are wrong.

Thanks for proving my previous point correct.

Noticing a lack of chapter and verse. It's almost like you're talking out your ass or something.

So you are denying that Jesus would not want people to suffer? You really are a retard. You really think Jesus wants people to suffer?

 

[FEETLOAF]

but you should try and work on seeing other peoples viewpoints and develop empathy

That's a two way street. You have to work to make me see your viewpoint. As it stands there's nothing to view. Your explanations for why it's not murder do not seem reasonable to me, so your viewpoint does not seem reasonable to me. Maybe you should actually try putting some effort into making your viewpoint respectable if you want it to be respected.

So you are denying that Jesus would not want people to suffer?

Yes, you will not find a single verse that says anything like this.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

That's a two way street. You have to work to make me see your viewpoint. As it stands there's nothing to view. Your explanations for why it's not murder do not seem reasonable to me, so your viewpoint does not seem reasonable to me. Maybe you should actually try putting some effort into making your viewpoint respectable if you want it to be respected.

That's cute coming from you. Why should I believe it's murder? Your turn to try and convince me.

Yes, you will not find a single verse that says anything like this.

There's also no verse that says Jesus is against abortion or where Jesus says it's murder. Therefore, you can't say it's murder.