The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

Having a personal conviction equals being an incel?
No, commenting on the eugenic history of Sanger and Planned Parenthood as well as the undermining of the black community as a viable voting block equals being an incel.

Somehow.

And I don't know what his fixation with my virginity is about, either. I already told him I'm not interested.
 
the disproportionate number of abortions among blacks
Minorities (especially blacks and Hispanics) are disproportionately poor in America, hence the higher reported abortion rate. It is to my disappointment that American conservatives focus on "black genocide" rather than raising their standards of living.

And before you blame that on the "welfare state" (Segregation was actually really good - "Uncle" Thomas Sowell), the Bush White House wiped out half of black wealth in America.
 
What a profoundly banal rhetorical.

The struggle of the woman is with selecting a mate. The struggle of the man is with finding a mate in the first place, then verifying their suitability. Only a man (or a very ugly woman who can only gain validation through her exploits as a sentient sex doll) would insist that there's no issues with their access to sex.

It's a boast that only has value in men's circles, and even there it's only tolerated-- at some point, you're a "man-whore".

This has nothing to do with "liking sex".


They wouldn't be able to reproduce if the women with whom they were reproducing said "no" instead. But, I suppose you mean to argue that women aren't autonomous agents capable of accountability like men are.
You've evidently never heard women talk about sex.

Why is it exclusively women's fault? I don't see you people saying guys need to have less sex.
 
You've evidently never heard women talk about sex.
On the contrary, you've never been around enough women, of various stripes.

Why is it exclusively women's fault?
Stop grasping at straws. You know that's not what I said, though you certainly tried to make this 100% the fault of men.

I don't see you people saying guys need to have less sex.
If-- unlike you-- I say that both men and women are autonomous agents capable of accountability, that should get the point across.

Minorities (especially blacks and Hispanics) are disproportionately poor in America, hence the higher reported abortion rate.
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Hispanics have never aborted at a rate comparable to that of black people.

It is to my disappointment that American conservatives focus on "black genocide" rather than raising their standards of living.
You're overinflating the focus given to the concept of "black genocide". Most of the time, it's black people who talk about it, and it's not even a common political conversation topic.

"Raising their standards of living" starts by fixing the soul of the community (not merely by lining the pockets of casually corrupt city councils throwing money at them for program funding), which frankly isn't a job that politicians can do more than assist with by opening up the country's wallet at specific and appropriate junctions.

And before you blame that on the "welfare state" (Segregation was actually really good - "Uncle" Thomas Sowell)
Have you read Sowell? The relevant contention isn't that "segregation was good", it's that "forced integration had deleterious consequences and wiped out white and black accomplishment alike". I trust you can understand the difference between the abolition of segregation and the forcing of integration.

That aside, he lays a lot on the expanded welfare state, but you're talking as if he makes it some black box that spits out poor black people instead of-- for example-- talking about how welfare as it is replaces reciprocal obligation to a family and community with unilateral and borderline unconditional subsidy that encourages no positive trait development/maintenance or family/community cohesion.

His central contention (as far as I can tell) is that America as a whole is suffering from a "social vision" foisted upon it by powerful people with immense tunnel vision. The party affiliation of the actors in that isn't something of much focus, compared to what they did.

The problem I'm having with you now is that you're saying a bunch of "X does Y" and it's apparent that they're pre-rehearsed lines you're likely not prepared to back up-- or, in some cases, explain their relevance.

"Blacks and Latinos are poor so they abort more!" But poor people still have kids. Not only that, but the recorded poverty rates of blacks and Hispanics are much more similar, practically neck-and-neck:

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but black people are estimated to abort notably more. These graphs suffer from the fact that they flatten numerous municipal and state contexts into several ethnicity-qualified estimates (well, that, and the first graph lumps together everyone that isn't Hispanic or black/white non-Hispanic), but those disparities are at least enough to establish that this phenomenon isn't solely caused by poverty-- if that's even a major cause.

"But Bush!" Nobody was talking about Bush, or political parties, or whatever else you're trying to talk about. Hell, you hardly talked about Bush and how he did what you claimed he did. Sometimes good things are done for a community, and sometimes bad things are done to one. In the grand scheme, the only thing that's relevant is the motivations and vision of the benefactor or malefactor. I have no idea why you felt the need to mention that Bush screwed over the blacks in a preemptive response to a railing about the welfare state that hadn't even been brought up at this point because we were talking about how Planned Parenthood has and continues to target the black community.
 
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Pot, kettle.
Again, my line. Maybe if you were around women that had a father figure worth a damn in their lives and gained a healthy attitude about sex instead of being angry about not having it (protip: there are more people than you that aren't having it, for various reasons) you'd be able to imitate a better kind of woman.

Better yet, you wouldn't even have to bother with that. :optimistic:, I know, but a man can hope.

It's amazing that the only thing you're capable of doing now are these pointless side-swipes because you can't keep up with anything of substance. There was a moment where a couple of interesting sub-topics-- abortion stats for different demographics and their potential causes, and prior to that, Planned Parenthood and blacks-- were starting to be debated. How do you chime in?

...you list off two kitchen appliances like you just woke up.

HHH volunteering to be my Tinder date for no reason has more substance than most of your contributions-- and when your contributions do have value, they come at the cost of trick shotting yourself in the foot.

Dude seriously thinks women don't brag about their sex life and/or conquests like men do.
You read at a prenatal level.
 
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I don't see you people saying guys need to have less sex.
You probably missed me castigating @Hollywood Hulk Hogan for being a sex-obsessed retard.

Of course, guys need to have less sex too. There are two sides to the problem, however, girls need to also spread their legs a little less too.
 
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You probably missed people me castigating @Hollywood Hulk Hogan for being a sex-obsessed retard.

Of course, guys need to have less sex too. There are two sides to the problem, however, girls need to also spread their legs a little less too.
No, people were laughing at you for being such a butthurt retard

HHH volunteering to be my Tinder date for no reason has more substance than most of your contributions-- and when your contributions do have value, they come at the cost of trick shotting yourself in the foot.
I was going to offer to help you reply to ladies on Tinder so you could finally meat a nice woman and finally hug, maybe kiss and maybe even lose your v-card so you'd stop acting like a Puritanical boomer
 
The way you fight for m'ladies/fuckboys and their "right" to unrestricted sex makes me think you're not getting any and are looking for a way to branch out.

What happened? Has your lady started to have a headache all too often during the evening?
Lol that makes no sense. If I was incapable of getting any, like you, I'd probably be calling for people to stop having sex, too.

Isn't "Branch out" an incel term? Sorry you can't get laid, bro.
 
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