Plagued The Alt-Right

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TRS guy and former alt right twitter poster here, anybody has any questions I'll answer as best I can. I'll come by tomorrow and see what the farms wants to know.

edit: I am leaving the forum, I will not respond to questions. Too much time. Have a good thread everybody.
 
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i still don't know what alt-right is.

is this like new right for millennial who are turning away from the Left?
Basically slightly less retarded neo-nazis, but also they're e-celebs.

The alt-right is pretty much completely dead as of 2019 though. Pointless to even restart the thread now.
 
Was the alt-right even anything even close to a group though? It always just seemed to be an extremely loose collection of people, most of whom rejected the label. Makes me wonder how history will even remember it.
yeah, alt right isn't something that even "alt" right would call themselves.

I mean this FORUM could be "alt right" because it is not "mainstream."

Again, just a stupid term made up by elite autocrat Killary.
 
i still don't know what alt-right is.

is this like new right for millennial who are turning away from the Left?
Alt-right is hard to describe because media and spergs have used it as a buzzword for anyone right wing, right of center or right of Stalin. From what I understand, it was initially used as a catch all term for more anti-democrat conservatives like Alex Jones, and at the beginning of 2015 it was used for "secular conservatives", then for mooks who considered themselves liberal but were voting right wing to protest the modern dems, then it was used as slang for Trump supporters, then it was was used as a substitute for nazi, but now it seems to be used for anyone who is even moderately conservative or anyone with wrong opinions.

A better thread would be for making fun of the actual neo-nazi extremists that think everything is part of a je_w_ish plot to take over the world (including claims that both the right and left wings are je_w_ish puppets, and hell even Hitler is considered a je_w_ish puppet in some circles of these looneys), started an unironic Kekistani cult (Esoteric Kekism which was a spinoff of Esoteric Nazism) and have an unhealthy obsession with Varg Vikernes (that borders on hero worship) and the Black Sun. A portion of them used to be Trump supporters around early 2017 but they've since dropped their support of him since he went to the Western Wall in Jerusalem while the rest of the psychos hated him from the get go because he was a "ki_ke-lover" for calling himself Christian and marrying a Je_w_ish woman.

In the end its hardly a group though. And no one on the actual right calls themselves that, and anyone that did stopped after 2017. Its now basically a label that gets tossed or used around recklessly to refer to anything that's considered problematic or relating to Humpty Drumpfty. Now if this thread had stayed active during 2016 to 2017 there would've been some funny sperging among /pol/'s elite worth making fun of when they thought their precious safe space was being raided by conservative boomers and "DA JE_W_S!", but its too late for that now. The obsession and paranoia over je_w_s back then was something truly special.
 
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Was the alt-right even anything even close to a group though? It always just seemed to be an extremely loose collection of people, most of whom rejected the label. Makes me wonder how history will even remember it.
It really hasn't been ambiguous since 2016 or so? In the end, the form it congealed around and died by was Internet Bloodsports. What's left is whatever the fuck Richard Spencer and his friends are doing, but their popularity is dead too. You have /pol/ I guess, which is technically similar to the alt-right politically, but if you were to label yourself it at this point everyone would just laugh at you.
 
Alt-right is hard to describe because media and spergs have used it as a buzzword for anyone right wing, right of center or right of Stalin. From what I understand, it was initially used as a catch all term for "secular conservatives", then for mooks who considered themselves liberal but were voting right wing to protest the modern dems, then it was used as slang for Trump supporters, then it was was used as a substitute for nazi, but now it seems to be used for anyone who is even moderately conservative or anyone with wrong opinions.

A better thread would be for making fun of the actual neo-nazi extremists that think everything is part of a jewish plot to take over the world (including claims that both the right and left wings are jewish puppets, and hell even Hitler is considered a jewish puppet in some circles of these looneys), started an unironical Kekistani cult (Esoteric Kekism which was a spinoff of Esoteric Nazism) and have an unhealthy obsession with Varg Vikernes (that borders on hero worship) and the Black Sun. A portion of them used to be Trump supporters around early 2017 but they've since dropped their support of him since he went to the Western Wall in Jerusalem while the rest hated him from the get go because he was a "kike-lover" for calling himself Christian and marrying a Jewish woman.

In the end its hardly a group though. And no one on the actual right calls themselves that, and anyone that did stopped after 2017. Its now basically a label that gets tossed or used around recklessly to refer to anything that's considered problematic or relating to Humpty Drumpfty. Now if this thread had stayed active during 2016 to 2017 there would've been some funny sperging among /pol/'s elite worth making fun of when they thought their precious safe space was being raided by conservative boomers and "DA JEWS!", but its too late for that now. The obsession and paranoia over jews back then was something truly special.

I recall, at a very early point before the term was brought into mainstream usage, it also included AnCaps, Trads, and basically any ideology that was vaguely right, but wasn't republican/conservative or a straight up white supremacist. it became heavily associated with the latter, ultimately.
 
I recall, at a very early point before the term was brought into mainstream usage, it also included AnCaps, Trads, and basically any ideology that was vaguely right, but wasn't republican/conservative or a straight up white supremacist.
I wasn't following it forever so I could be mistaken, I believe its origins are closer to what people know it as now. During the Trump phenomena, People like Milo tried to co-opt it, people like Molyneux and Lauren Southern started gearing their talking points in the same general direction. That went away pretty quickly when people realized that everyone actively calling themselves alt-right was a fucking joke. Definition of political LARPing. If you want to see what's left of the alt-right, go look at the 14 people who still use Gab and try not to kill yourself.
 
Okay I'm seeing a lot of shots in the dark of what is/was the alt right. As someone who remembers the original AlternativeRight.com, back when the idea of being "Alt-Right" was not even a concept, I'm going to have to step in here.

The story of the alt-right really begins in the early 1990's. The Neo-cons were cementing their stranglehold on the right-wing intelligentsia of the United States and by extension GOP policy making. They were in the process of purging and pushing out anyone who the felt stood in their way. This included white nationalist/white idenitarians, libertarians/ancaps, christian conservatives they felt were too hardline, birchers, conspiracy theorist, anyone who thought endless wars in the middle-east was a bad idea, and people who they just didn't like.

This created a milliu that became known as "The Paleo-Cons", to contrast with "The Neo-Cons." In reality, Paleoconservatism wasn't a coherent, united ideology. It was just a mishmash of all the groups and people whom the Neo-Cons had purged. It was a table of exiles which seated the likes of...
  • Jared Taylor (white nationalist),
  • Pat Buchanan (Old Fashion Catholic),
  • Murray Rothbard (Anarcho-Capitalist),
  • Lou Rockwell (anti-war Libertarian),
  • Ron Paul (Libertarian),
  • Kevin MacDonald (White Nationalist and top Jew Expert)
  • David Duke (White Nationalist)
  • Samuel Francis (Trad-con turned White Nationalist)
  • Peter Brimilow (Conservative who railed against immigration)
  • Taki Thadoakopalis (Insanely Rich and very un-PC Greek Guy)
  • Greg Johnson (Gay Nazi)
  • Thomas W. Chittum (Conspiracy Theorist, during the 90's was convinced America was going to have a Yugoslav styled ethnic breakdown)
  • Paul Gottfried (Crabby Jew, Neo-cons hated for some reason)
While in reality they didn't have much in common, these people typical attended the same conferences, wrote for the same publications and ultimately influenced each other. This is how you had those racist Ron Paul news letters that became a controversy during his presidential campaign.

So the Paleo-cons continued to exist, without making much of an impact with the exception of "The Reform Party", which had the most successful third party presidential run in modern history, largely thanks to the eccentric billionare Ross Perot. And another eccentric billionaire would briefly run under the Reform Party, but was disheartened by what he called the kooks and racist within it (I think he specifically called Pat Buchanan a fascist). His name was Donald Trump.

While pushed aside from the world of mainstream policy making, they would continue to be active, starting publications like V-Dare, American Renaissance (Am-Ren), and Taki Mag; while holding conferences like H. L. Menchen Club and Am-Ren's annual conference.

During the Iraq War, when it was becoming apparent the war was a massive mistake and fuck up, a young and aspiring political ideologue by the name of Richard Spencer was becoming more and more furious with the Bush administration, and the Neo-Cons who were running the ship. He began to seek out conservatives and rightwingers who were just as disgusted as he was with Bush and the Neo-Cons. This quickly lead him to the Paleocon outland. He became an editor for Taki Mag, would convert to White Nationalism via Jared Taylor, and would be mentored by Paul Gottfried. Gottfried would be credited for being the first to use the term "Alternative Right", but my suspicion is Spencer was already floating the idea over drinks to the old Paleo-cons.

Spencer's main mission was to create a new ideological current to dethrone Neo-Con power and the stranglehold they and the GOP had on the American Right. He and his mentors knew they couldn't continue the Paleocon brand as is, since it was a movement of grumpy, disempowered, old men. Hence the term Alternative Right.

He would start his own online magazine called "Alternative Right" along with journalist Collin Lidell and novelist Andy Nowiki, to act as the main staging ground for this new current. And the rest is history.

I will add that the Alternative Right was not an isolated island, even within the realm of fringe right wing ideologies. It would go on to mix and morph with a new ideological movements such as Neo Reaction (which ties back to Libertarianism and An-Caps), and a constellation of male oriented sites and blogs known as the manosphere.
 
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Here's how alt right lolcow Vox Day defines the alt right

In the interest of developing a core Alternative Right philosophy upon which others can build.

  1. The Alt Right is of the political right in both the American and the European sense of the term. Socialists are not Alt Right. Progressives are not Alt Right. Liberals are not Alt Right. Communists, Marxists, Marxians, cultural Marxists, and neocons are not Alt Right. National Socialists are not Alt Right.
  2. The Alt Right is an ALTERNATIVE to the mainstream conservative movement in the USA that is nominally encapsulated by Russel Kirk's 10 Conservative Principles, but in reality has devolved towards progressivism. It is also an alternative to libertarianism.
  3. The Alt Right is not a defensive attitude and rejects the concept of noble and principled defeat. It is a forward-thinking philosophy of offense, in every sense of that term. The Alt Right believes in victory through persistence and remaining in harmony with science, reality, cultural tradition, and the lessons of history.
  4. The Alt Right believes Western civilization is the pinnacle of human achievement and supports its three foundational pillars: Christianity, the European nations, and the Graeco-Roman legacy.
  5. The Alt Right is openly and avowedly nationalist. It supports all nationalisms and the right of all nations to exist, homogeneous and unadulterated by foreign invasion and immigration.
  6. The Alt Right is anti-globalist. It opposes all groups who work for globalist ideals or globalist objectives.
  7. The Alt Right is anti-equalitarian. It rejects the idea of equality for the same reason it rejects the ideas of unicorns and leprechauns, noting that human equality does not exist in any observable scientific, legal, material, intellectual, sexual, or spiritual form.
  8. The Alt Right is scientodific. It presumptively accepts the current conclusions of the scientific method (scientody), while understanding a) these conclusions are liable to future revision, b) that scientistry is susceptible to corruption, and c) that the so-called scientific consensus is not based on scientody, but democracy, and is therefore intrinsically unscientific.
  9. The Alt Right believes identity > culture > politics.
  10. The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples. The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.
  11. The Alt Right understands that diversity + proximity = war.
  12. The Alt Right doesn't care what you think of it.
  13. The Alt Right rejects international free trade and the free movement of peoples that free trade requires. The benefits of intranational free trade is not evidence for the benefits of international free trade.
  14. The Alt Right believes we must secure the existence of white people and a future for white children.
  15. The Alt Right does not believe in the general supremacy of any race, nation, people, or sub-species. Every race, nation, people, and human sub-species has its own unique strengths and weaknesses, and possesses the sovereign right to dwell unmolested in the native culture it prefers.
  16. The Alt Right is a philosophy that values peace among the various nations of the world and opposes wars to impose the values of one nation upon another as well as efforts to exterminate individual nations through war, genocide, immigration, or genetic assimilation.

TL;DR: The Alt Right is a Western ideology that believes in science, history, reality, and the right of a genetic nation to exist and govern itself in its own interests.
 
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The alt-right is an amalgam of ideologies and opinions in the right spectrum. They're a varieties of people which only objetive is sperg at anyone who isn't a right wing pals.
Basically they are for the right what SJW is for the left(autistic keywarrior obsessed in the culture war).
Most of this is right, but the alt-right as people know it now isn't an amalgam of dick. Most extreme right people wouldn't touch the label with a 20 ft pole.
 
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