US The Army is launching a sweeping overhaul of its recruiting to reverse enlistment shortfalls - While the Army will still look at increased bonuses and push the health care and education funding in the military, money is not likely to be a key driver for recruits.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Army is launching a sweeping overhaul of its recruiting to focus more on young people who have spent time in college or are job hunting early in their careers, as it scrambles to reverse years of enlistment shortfalls.

A major part of this is the formation of a new professional force of recruiters instead of relying on soldiers randomly assigned to the task.

Army Secretary Christine Wormuth, in an interview with The Associated Press, said some of the changes will begin in the next 90 days but a wholesale transformation will take years.

“We have not been recruiting very well for many more years than one would think from just looking at the headlines in the last 18 months,” Wormuth said, adding that the Army hasn’t met its annual goal for new enlistment contracts since 2014.

Last year, the Army fell 15,000 short of its enlistment goal of 60,000 while competing with higher-paying companies in a tight job market and trying to overcome two years of the coronavirus pandemic, which shut down access to schools and public events. In the fiscal year that ended Saturday, the Army brought in a bit more than 50,000 recruits, falling short of the publicly stated “stretch goal” of 65,000.

Army officials, however, said that number still allows the service to meet its required total strength of 452,000. They said the Army also signed up an additional 4,600 recruits for future contracts, in an effort to build back the pool of delayed-entry recruits, which had eroded. Those recruits will go to basic training over the next year.

On Tuesday, Wormuth told reporters in a briefing that the Army has not yet decided what the new fiscal year’s recruiting goal will be, but said it would likely be less than 65,000. The lower number, she said, also reflects the fact that the size of the Army has been shrinking from the 485,000 level during the peaks of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

In testimony before Congress during his confirmation hearing, Gen. Randy George, who is now chief of staff of the Army, called recruiting " the No. 1 challenge that we face and the one thing that we have to be focused on.” And he said the service must better tailor its messaging and marketing.

The Navy and the Air Force also fell short of their recruitment goals for the fiscal year that ended Saturday, but leaders said both did better than predictions earlier this year. The Marine Corps and the tiny Space Force have said they would meet their enlistment targets.

Marine leaders, including Brig. Gen. Walker Field, who heads the Corps’ eastern recruiting region, have said one key to their success is choosing the right recruiters and encouraging successful ones to stay on. The Marines are also repositioning recruiting stations to areas where populations have grown.

The Army’s recruiting increase this year is considered a short-term victory made possible by a number of new and upgraded programs and benefits. But Wormuth said it will take systemic changes in how the Army approaches the labor market and sells the service as a career to turn things around.

At the same time, she said the Army must concentrate on the things it can change since there are many things it cannot, such as lack of fitness among youths and unwillingness to serve.

While recruiters have long relied heavily on high school seniors or graduates to fill the ranks, Wormuth said they need to reach beyond that pool and seek applicants on job sites like ZipRecruiter, Indeed or Glassdoor.

“The vast majority of people who are out there making employment decisions are people who have more than a high school education,” Wormuth said. “We need to figure out how to talk to that much broader labor market.”

She said that as more students go on to college, high school graduates now make up just 15% to 20% of the labor market. And the Army gets about half of its recruits from that shrinking population.

“We are not abandoning the high school market by any means,” Wormuth said, but by 2028 she wants the Army to have one-third of its recruits to have more than a high school diploma, rather than the current one-fifth,.

Part of that is showcasing the Army’s higher-tech jobs with computers, satellites and artificial intelligence to lure those who may still think of the service as just infantry troops.

The other major change, which will begin to form in the coming months, is the transition to a professional recruiting workforce. Rather than using soldiers who are “voluntold” to take on a special assignment as recruiters, the Army is establishing a new permanent and specialized enlistment workforce.

There are currently about 8,000 Army recruiters, and only a bit more than a third have recruiting as their actual job classification.

The change will mirror how private companies work and will take several years. But Wormuth said the Army will quickly start a pilot program to begin identifying and training the new force. As part of the process, the Army will use a new aptitude test designed to identify soldiers who have a higher potential for being successful recruiters.

Other changes will include planning larger Army career fairs and restructuring the command leadership, elevating the head of recruiting to a three-star job with a four-year term for more continuity.

And, while the Army will still look at increased bonuses and push the health care and education funding in the military, money is not likely to be a key driver for recruits. And recruiters will need to sell the less tangible benefits of service.

“At the end of the day, I think that what offsets what we don’t offer in terms of compensation we make up for with being part of something bigger,” Wormuth said. “Ask anyone wearing a uniform in my office. They will tell you that what keeps them re-enlisting or staying until 20 years or beyond is the people and doing something that really matters.”

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Boy are you in for a shock about the draft.

  • They can draft you up to age 35. (Thanks, Obama)
  • Other people will be scrambling to be disqualified.
  • The overweight and sick won't qualify.
  • College students won't qualify.
  • Women won't qualify.
  • Drug busts and felons won't qualify.
  • HS education or higher.
  • Critical jobs aren't drafted and get deferment.
  • It's well known that it hits poor and working class more often.
  • There's long standing rumors that the Draft board tilts toward red states and Republican areas.

You say that now, but wait until you're seeing the draft board post the numbers and sweating, wondering if yours is next.


I want to see them call back the TDRL and PDRL listings. That's when you KNOW they're desperate.
In a fucked up way by actually being a healthy high school graduate you suffer, you worked hard on your body and kept out of jail and you're in the frontline.

I can imagine lots of Democrats using their current fetishisation of mental illness like ADHD to get out of it as well,

It's almost tailor-made for Republican demographics in way with educational polarisation and crime rates. Almost by design....

I wonder what will happen f one starts using 'racist' or 'transphobic' rhetoric as a way to get out of this, or will a draft ignore that, I'm guessing?
 
They could strap a bunch of plates to him and roll him through minefields. Probably easier than current methods of clearing them.
We used to have a mine clearing system that involved basically a rocket and a long strip of det-cord/C4. The rocket flies across the field, dragging out the C4, it hits the end, rocket explodes, det-cord and C4 goes up on the ground, blows a path through the minefield.

Let me guess, they don't make that any more because the goat fucking hadjis didn't use mines and near-peer was never going to happen again.
 
Fuck, and here I thought I'd be a comfy late millenial watching the world burn with hot chocolate and my Zoomette harem. I should've dropped out of high school. Feels bad boys.
how could you honestly stomach fucking zoomer women as zoomer men go out and die for nothing?
I am actually being serious, even if you are obviously (?) joking. Older men dating younger women and saying it'll be their turn eventually is legitimately horrible and one of the many, MANY reasons why we are in this failing population mess.
 
In a fucked up way by actually being a healthy high school graduate you suffer, you worked hard on your body and kept out of jail and you're in the frontline.

I can imagine lots of Democrats using their current fetishisation of mental illness like ADHD to get out of it as well,

It's almost tailor-made for Republican demographics in way with educational polarisation and crime rates. Almost by design....

I wonder what will happen f one starts using 'racist' or 'transphobic' rhetoric as a way to get out of this, or will a draft ignore that, I'm guessing?
During WW1, close to half of every 1000 males considered for the draft were exempt due to health issues. Let's take a look at some numbers if people in this thread are really panicking about selective service. There were 2,810,296 men that made the cut in total for the first world war. Let's compare that to three other major US wars where conscription was used and average the amount of draftees:
  • WW1: 2,810,296
  • WW2: 10,110,104
  • Korea: 1,529,539
  • Vietnam: 1,857,304
  • Average: 4,076,810.75
I completely understand what Jet Fuel Johnny was saying a page or so ago with the amount of people who would be disqualified or would be scrabbling to find some way to get out of it in the event it were brought back along with that Obama era policy that's been brought up as well. In the lottery, as long as that policy won't be enacted, people whose 20th birthday is on the year the thing happens will be called first followed, if needed, ages 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 19, and 18 in that order. The census thing I posted a page or so back shows that there are over 11 million young males in the 20-24 age bracket in the US as of last year. The average I have found does not even break half of ten million. I would only start to panic if a draft were announced and the Obama policy was utilized and the standards completely went in the toilet to some extent (I'm already exempt myself from joining willingly due to a health issue).

I'm also certain college doesn't get you out of it anymore; fairly sure that was removed after Vietnam.
 
In a fucked up way by actually being a healthy high school graduate you suffer, you worked hard on your body and kept out of jail and you're in the frontline.

I can imagine lots of Democrats using their current fetishisation of mental illness like ADHD to get out of it as well,

It's almost tailor-made for Republican demographics in way with educational polarisation and crime rates. Almost by design....

I wonder what will happen f one starts using 'racist' or 'transphobic' rhetoric as a way to get out of this, or will a draft ignore that, I'm guessing?
"Problematic language" will get you in a punishment unit. They wont train you and will send you out unarmed as a decoy.
 
there are over 11 million young males in the 20-24 age bracket in the US as of last year
the problem is how many would be both a. qualified and b .willing to die for the machine. Its even worse because the dems already showed their hand with Carter, if you cut and run they won't convict you years down the road. We all know enough of their minorities will run that they'll have to not put them in prison.

Another thing to bring up is that anti-war is just anti-republican. while people hated the draft the anti-war movement didn't really explode until 1969, almost everyone of both sides supported the war, same way people forgot about afghanistan & iraq in 2009. Meaning if they do have ww3 every proud lib will be marching down to the office along with every retarded redneck, the draft won't happen until during the fading days of the war. Similar to how many people enlisted at the start of ww2 or 'nam or korea. People also don't realize only the army drafts, the marines and air force and other branches its all volunteer so they'll be your best bet once the drafts do start happening.
, ages 21, 22, 23, 24, 25,
21 was a de facto age of adulthood back then. while you could fuck and work wherever once you turned 14, stuff like contracts and voting and home ownership and credit cards were a 21 and over ordeal. Especially with how much people whined about the lottery i highly doubt they won't have some contract to create a new even more randomized lottery (so they can target white people easier) and have the ages be more varied. if they only send the 18-25 they'll be fucking over a lot of their own voters. plus the few minorities that are cons always seemed to come out of the forces. plus if they only start sending the 21s that means giving people a few years to flee the country. they'll do it at 18 because it'll be easier to catch kids and make sure they don't cut and run. They already have police at the school and recruitment in high school is common enough that a presence won't be seen as odd to kids or adults.
 
Is this real and legal or just doomer fanfiction, lad?

Considering the military needs people to dig holes to shit in and do menial tasks, what do you think? Do you think that sounds real or fake, gay, and also retarded?
 
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We used to have a mine clearing system that involved basically a rocket and a long strip of det-cord/C4. The rocket flies across the field, dragging out the C4, it hits the end, rocket explodes, det-cord and C4 goes up on the ground, blows a path through the minefield.

Let me guess, they don't make that any more because the goat fucking hadjis didn't use mines and near-peer was never going to happen again.
We still have miclics.
 
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I'm just glad one can dodge the medical draft by surrendering their medical license. I am sure they would make it just about impossible to get back, but there are plenty of other things one can do in life.
 
my man, there's a big difference between being told to work from home in your underpants, saving hours of commute and shitty open office environments while ordering uber eats with your stimmy check, and getting send to durka durka land to serve as cannon fodder against towelheads.
Tell that to all of the people who committed suicide, had broken relationships, fell into hard drug use, lost their livelihoods, or had family members die in a hospital that they weren't allowed to see.

And fucking no, there isn't much difference. Obedience is obedience when it comes to absolutely egregious violations of one's basic human rights. I reiterate, nobody got killed, nobody rioted, nobody protested in large numbers, nobody was ever held responsible in any manner that matters, over what happened during covid. And still nobody is being held responsible for forcing mRNA gene therapy on the populace via economic coercion, in any manner, despite that nothing coming out about the effects of those jabs has been anything but horrid.

Nobody will know for sure until it happens, if it even does, but there's fundamentally no reason to expect mass civil disobedience of the type people seem to think is capable if it didn't happen over the fucking abominable shit the lockdowns did to folks. I personally do think it's a terrible, and stupid, idea, but I don't see how a lever-puller would think it out of the question after how well the covid shit went over.
 
I just feel the contract that kept the everyday American willing to fight for their country and the government is broken. We have been labeled an enemy of the state, that white supremacy is the biggest threat to our nation, yet you want us to risk our lives for your interests? Go fuck yourself.
I agree, but I know plenty of people still going into the army/navy/etc. It baffles me that they still do it, I think it's an 'honor' thing, but I don't see anything honorable about being told what to do by people who hate you.
 
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