The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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I’ve noticed Starlight actually looks hot on instagram. I am still thinking the weird haggard look she had for the most of the last session was mostly down to a deliberate choice with make up, as she looked hot again when
she was replaced by the shape shifter.

I think the retards running the show didn’t understand how bad they made her look as they’re all gay and aren’t human.
 
Nolan's films were an experiment in applying superhero concepts to a realistic world, hence why despite the fact that it poked holes at the flaws of superheroes, it still had enough respect for them, ending Batman's story on a respectable note.


Ironically enough, they're scared as shit of boobs. They're A-OK showing religious people getting eviscerated or showing men's cucumbers full-frontal style, yet if a female character gets too sexy, they tone that shit down. They have no problems with a black man getting turkey-slapped by a white dude's dong, yet they pan away from the lactation chick when she shoots milk at Homelander. These people are the kind who'd bully capeshit fans and religious people, but show them Uzaki-Chan or some other anime with curvaceous women and they'll fly off their handle and get severely triggered.
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Kripke after I strap him to a chair with his eyes forced open as he's forced to watch Eiken.
 
Batman, as someone who tirelessly and hopefully attempts to improve things, would be the weirdest superhero to portray as a sex pest. Going “lol they’re a faggot” nukes any potential nuance you can draw from.
Parodies and satire require actual understanding of the source material. Someone earlier in the thread made an excellent point in that a billionaire making donations to BLM would be praised and jerked off by the public- what, exactly, is showing him being scared that supposed to be taking the piss out of?
 
Parodies and satire require actual understanding of the source material. Someone earlier in the thread made an excellent point in that a billionaire making donations to BLM would be praised and jerked off by the public- what, exactly, is showing him being scared that supposed to be taking the piss out of?
Its because he's so racist that helping liberal causes makes him scream and shit himself, it gets even worse when they donate to Elizabeth Warren in that same gag. It's just an out of touch idea of what Kripke believes the politicians he doesn't like would actually act like.

Batman, as someone who tirelessly and hopefully attempts to improve things, would be the weirdest superhero to portray as a sex pest. Going “lol they’re a faggot” nukes any potential nuance you can draw from.
Kripke is one of those people who bought into the "woke" meme of Batman not helping poor people and beating mentally ill people. Which is why he thinks the Bat Cave would be a sex dungeon and Alfred would be a glorified slave.

It's even worse because he could've gotten more mileage off of Tek Knight by keeping him as he was, an Iron Man parody especially when there's a billionaire Kripke also doesn't like who has compared himself to Iron Man.

Kripke had a stronger idea of parody and satire by making Tek Knight "Not Elon Musk" but instead made him a bizarro Batman parody that has no basis in reality. Now would the "Tek Knight Elon" parody be good, probably not, but at least it would have more bite to it than an imaginary caricature of Batman because Kripke is an actual dumbass. I wonder if part of him realizes it is too late to do that, or he is still up his own ass since "The Deep" is now an Elon parody if the social media page of The Boys is anything to go by.

Meanwhile, the "good guys" they want you to worship aren't as fun as the characters from previous decades, they're the good guys because they support the "current thing", even though in some cases, especially in the case with The Boys, the good guys can be almost as vindictive and ill-tempered as the bad guys. Starlight and her team aren't as fun as say, Sonic the Hedgehog, nor do they exude the kind of moral strength that Captain Kirk or the GI Joes did. So it's kind of getting harder to root for them against Homelander, especially given how colossally incompetent they can be; they had the chance to kill him, but failed anyways.
Honestly the only heroic characters that are against Homelander that are probably more likeable are just Butcher and A-Train. Butcher suffered the worst out of everyone, and his idiotic teammates really make him more validated, and he is the only one in The Boys team who has any interesting dynamic with Homelander, since both of them feel they complete each other as enemies. A-Train also has a pretty good redemption arc where it actually does work for him, especially with how it feels more believable.

As for everyone else in The Boys team:

Kimiko? She's probably one of the few good characters left on that team.
Frenchie? Colin subplot dragged him down a lot, could potentially be better.
MM? Very meh character, can't have strong feelings about him one way or the other.
Hughie? Unfortunate character who has good potential that is hampered by Kripke being a massive hack.
CIA Lady? Pretty dumb
Ryan? Flip-flops more like a fish on land.

Starlight? Absolute worst character in the show who has gotten worse since she flipped sides and exists as a walking soapbox for Kripke's political opinions. Closest thing to a live action Lisa Simpson. It's not that she has liberal opinions, she acts like a complete asshole to everyone in her team and reprimands people for reasonable decisions like how dare Hughie want to actually have a fighting chance (it didn't help she acted like this before she found out V24 was toxic), or victim blames Hughie regularly for being assaulted. If she ends up killing Homelander, it is going to really ruin the quality of the show.
 
CIA Lady? Pretty dumb
Which is unintentionally hilarious if you remember she's supposed to be a superhuman genius. You write what you know.

Biggest problem of Tek Knight is how boring his concept is. You want to write asshole Batman so... he's a white dude who makes money from the prison-industrial complex, has a sex dungeon and Alfred is (of course) black? That's it, a buck-breaking stereotype from Tariq Nasheed's wet dreams? It's like a hot summer day of stupidity when shower runs out of water.

You could throw a wrench into it, dunno make Batman moonlight as Don Wayne, playing both the law-abiding superheroes (who feigh ignorance when asked as they need him for tardwrangling all the petty criminals they feel are beneath them) and the supervillains (who tolerate him for his ability to pull Kryptonite out of his ass whenever Superman gives them trouble), then maybe make Batman black and Alfred white - that would be somewhat interesting especially when Batman orders Alfred to work the sex dungeon but it would not be eligible for ESG money so you're left with a big meh.
 
Its because he's so racist that helping liberal causes makes him scream and shit himself, it gets even worse when they donate to Elizabeth Warren in that same gag. It's just an out of touch idea of what Kripke believes the politicians he doesn't like would actually act like.


Kripke is one of those people who bought into the "woke" meme of Batman not helping poor people and beating mentally ill people. Which is why he thinks the Bat Cave would be a sex dungeon and Alfred would be a glorified slave.

It's even worse because he could've gotten more mileage off of Tek Knight by keeping him as he was, an Iron Man parody especially when there's a billionaire Kripke also doesn't like who has compared himself to Iron Man.

Kripke had a stronger idea of parody and satire by making Tek Knight "Not Elon Musk" but instead made him a bizarro Batman parody that has no basis in reality. Now would the "Tek Knight Elon" parody be good, probably not, but at least it would have more bite to it than an imaginary caricature of Batman because Kripke is an actual dumbass. I wonder if part of him realizes it is too late to do that, or he is still up his own ass since "The Deep" is now an Elon parody if the social media page of The Boys is anything to go by.


Honestly the only heroic characters that are against Homelander that are probably more likeable are just Butcher and A-Train. Butcher suffered the worst out of everyone, and his idiotic teammates really make him more validated, and he is the only one in The Boys team who has any interesting dynamic with Homelander, since both of them feel they complete each other as enemies. A-Train also has a pretty good redemption arc where it actually does work for him, especially with how it feels more believable.

As for everyone else in The Boys team:

Kimiko? She's probably one of the few good characters left on that team.
Frenchie? Colin subplot dragged him down a lot, could potentially be better.
MM? Very meh character, can't have strong feelings about him one way or the other.
Hughie? Unfortunate character who has good potential that is hampered by Kripke being a massive hack.
CIA Lady? Pretty dumb
Ryan? Flip-flops more like a fish on land.

Starlight? Absolute worst character in the show who has gotten worse since she flipped sides and exists as a walking soapbox for Kripke's political opinions. Closest thing to a live action Lisa Simpson. It's not that she has liberal opinions, she acts like a complete asshole to everyone in her team and reprimands people for reasonable decisions like how dare Hughie want to actually have a fighting chance (it didn't help she acted like this before she found out V24 was toxic), or victim blames Hughie regularly for being assaulted. If she ends up killing Homelander, it is going to really ruin the quality of the show.
I disagree about A-Train being "heroic" given how far the show went to whitewash him and his crimes and have him have Harley Quinn tier plot armor.

Besides his murdering Huey's gf, the Hispanic gun vigilante who he murdered the the crime of pointing out that black people commit all sorts of crimes but scream racism if you try and stop said black criminals (and getting his actual heart transplanted into him as a "reward" for the crime, and letting an innocent man be framed/murdered for his leaking details about the Seven's activities? He's a horrible piece of shit but because he's black and because they transferred all of comic Atrain's comic exclusive crimes onto Deep, hes become the most hateable character on a show crawling with unlikables....
 
the Hispanic gun vigilante who he murdered the the crime of pointing out that black people commit all sorts of crimes but scream racism if you try and stop said black criminals (and getting his actual heart transplanted into him as a "reward" for the crime, and letting an innocent man be framed/murdered for his leaking details about the Seven's activities?
To be fair, the hispanic guy in the show's context is committing racial profiling and crippled A-Train's brother. It wasn't because he just pointed out crime statistics. It also didn't really do anything and isn't treated as heroic.

As for the second bit with Not!Tucker Carlson, that was on Ashley who framed him and he didn't plan on framing him. Context does get worse when the "smartest girl in the world" knows A-Train was the actual mole but let a valuable propaganda tool die.

Though I can grant you he does have plot armor, but that applies to literally everyone in the show since Homelander is only alive because Butcher decided to fight Soldier Boy, and well The Boys had so many encounters with members of The Seven that they should reasonably be dead instead of like captured. It's not unique to A-Train, and more of an intrinsic issue with the show itself.
 
I disagree about A-Train being "heroic" given how far the show went to whitewash him and his crimes.
Don't forget he is also responsible for running Compound V across the world and creating a bunch of super terrorists. Plus giving up information on various superheroes to Homelander like Supersonic who instantly get killed. Plus the whole killing his girlfriend.
Though I can grant you he does have plot armor
Almost all main characters have plot armor. This show hasn't killed any off that mattered since the first season. Whenever a main character is killed off the plot just resets anyways. Making their death meaningless.
 
To be fair, the hispanic guy in the show's context is committing racial profiling
Now I wonder how Vaught's crime analytics department functioned without accusations of racial profiling. I suppose their job was not so much discovering crime as filtering out violent crimes committed by racial and ethnic minorities so the Seven could focus on white men.
 
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Kripke after I strap him to a chair with his eyes forced open as he's forced to watch Eiken.
He'd probably feel dirty afterwards.

IOW, "Typical Jewish Writing".
I noticed that because I know a lot of good Christians personally who are superhero fans, from school principals, teachers, clergy, among other things. They were big fans of western superheroes. And it's something that some capeshit works recognized, when works like Man of Steel showed Superman to be a good Christian.

Then you have Eric Kripke take over a show mocking superheroes, and instead of making it a Batman-esque story of how a common mortal can defeat godlike superheroes, he turns it into a screed against white American Christians.

Kripke is one of those people who bought into the "woke" meme of Batman not helping poor people and beating mentally ill people. Which is why he thinks the Bat Cave would be a sex dungeon and Alfred would be a glorified slave.
Even with the most retarded version of Batman who believes in that stupid code of his, he still believes that what he does helps both the rich and the poor. He genuinely wants to help everyone. This is so clearly portrayed in the past that Kripke assuming that Batman doesn't want to help the poor makes no goddamn sense. The fact that he freaks out when his money is being donated to BLM makes no sense, when as I said before, billionaires do that kind of shit all the time just to look good.

Honestly the only heroic characters that are against Homelander that are probably more likeable are just Butcher and A-Train. Butcher suffered the worst out of everyone, and his idiotic teammates really make him more validated, and he is the only one in The Boys team who has any interesting dynamic with Homelander, since both of them feel they complete each other as enemies. A-Train also has a pretty good redemption arc where it actually does work for him, especially with how it feels more believable.
A-Train feels like they're redeeming him because of his skin color, which is funny considering that comics A-Train was white. But yes, A-Train at least risks his ass being in the belly of the beast while being the leak for the heroes, and Butcher at least takes this "fight the heroes" crap more seriously than everyone else, and yes, his dynamic with Homelander is one of the few redeemable aspects about the story. At least I want to see how it's concluded.

Kimiko? She's probably one of the few good characters left on that team.
Meh, I can take her or leave her. She doesn't really strike me as anything special.

Frenchie? Colin subplot dragged him down a lot, could potentially be better.
Like I said before, that Colin subplot could've worked better if Sister Sage had something to do with it, like say, having her be the one to tell Colin that Frenchie offed his parents, as a plot to make Frenchie wracked with so much guilt that he quits the team.

MM? Very meh character, can't have strong feelings about him one way or the other.
Dude gets cucked by a capeshit fanboy, then gets jizzed upon and turkey-slapped by a white cock. The dude is so humiliated he makes Finn from Force Awakens look like Morgan Freeman in comparison.

Why blacks aren't up in arms about the one black dude in the team getting such disgusting things be done to him is beyond me.

Hughie? Unfortunate character who has good potential that is hampered by Kripke being a massive hack.
Hughie, like I said before, is a massive wimp. Dude doesn't even feel bad that Starlight killed their child. Firecracker had to call her out on that. Hughie never comes out of the bitch-made zone; he always has to be a wimp so that he can be Starlight's bitch. Can't take Temp-V, that's toxic masculinity that winds up becoming literally toxic. He has to be made to feel bad for falling for a literal shapeshifter who can copy a person's look, smell, and memory. And he doesn't get a break after getting sexually humiliated in a sex dungeon.

There's characters like Amuro Ray that start off being pansies, but they grow out of it and become functioning contributors to society. Then there's people like Hughie who will always be a pansy because the plot says so, and the plot gods will strike him down if he tries to deviate from that path.

CIA Lady? Pretty dumb
Ryan? Flip-flops more like a fish on land.
They're about as important as wet toast. Just props to move Butcher and the Boys' story along.

Starlight? Absolute worst character in the show who has gotten worse since she flipped sides and exists as a walking soapbox for Kripke's political opinions. Closest thing to a live action Lisa Simpson. It's not that she has liberal opinions, she acts like a complete asshole to everyone in her team and reprimands people for reasonable decisions like how dare Hughie want to actually have a fighting chance (it didn't help she acted like this before she found out V24 was toxic), or victim blames Hughie regularly for being assaulted. If she ends up killing Homelander, it is going to really ruin the quality of the show.
And what's worse is that the author and the story expects us to take her side always, when she's such an unlikeable bitch that would make Peter Griffin look loveable by comparison. And yes, she probably will wind up killing Homelander just so the story could "own the chuds".

Which is unintentionally hilarious if you remember she's supposed to be a superhuman genius. You write what you know.
Stupid people can't write smart characters. Hence why Mallory comes off as an idiot when any moron with brain cells would've tried to lure Homelander to a trap where he gets jumped by 50 dudes with Temp V. They already had the formula in their hands last time, they could've made more of it and given it to karatekas or other men trained in CQC, then lured Homelander to something using an excuse so that these men could rip his head off. After Maeve nearly killed him during the fight with Soldier Boy, Homelander has been shown to be vulnerable. And a smart person would've seized the day to kill him.

Biggest problem of Tek Knight is how boring his concept is. You want to write asshole Batman so... he's a white dude who makes money from the prison-industrial complex, has a sex dungeon and Alfred is (of course) black? That's it, a buck-breaking stereotype from Tariq Nasheed's wet dreams? It's like a hot summer day of stupidity when shower runs out of water.
Like I said before in another thread, you can easily make an evil Batman. Have it so that in standard, he's the guy who beats up bad guys, but refuses to kill them and throws them into a revolving-door prison where they usually escape from to kill more dudes. Except.......you can also have it so that this "hero" owns the hospitals the bad guys are sent to, so he has no incentive to kill them, when the state pays HIS hospitals to put these people back together. Then have him own the funeral homes too, so that whenever civilians get killed by these villains, he profits from their literal deaths. Which means that he has no incentive to actually stop these criminals from killing people, because he profits from every death.

There you go. A Batman-esque villain who has every reason to keep the cycle going, where villains kill people, he beats up the villains and puts them away, refusing to kill them, they escape, and kill more people. And the hero doesn't do this because of any higher moral code, but because he literally profits from the continuation of human suffering, on the part of both the victims and the criminals. Every civilian who loses a family member to these villains, and every time these villains get beat up by this hero, the hero profits.
 
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It's partly because, in the writer making it so obvious that everything is fundamentally against the bad guys, those factions become the ultimate underdogs. And then, on the other side, these writers tend to lean towards desperately sanitizing their heroes to the point of annoyance/blandness to make sure they hammer it in that they're not the bad guys.
The really funny part about that is, in today's world, after so many celebrities have had their evil secrets exposed, it just makes the "Good Guys" in stuff like The Boys seem like they are hiding worse things than the "Villains".
 
The really funny part about that is, in today's world, after so many celebrities have had their evil secrets exposed, it just makes the "Good Guys" in stuff like The Boys seem like they are hiding worse things than the "Villains".
It's on brand for The Boys though. As they started off making fun of superhero 'capeshit'. And now are in the middle of franchising the entire series into at least three spinoffs with even more already being planned on top of those. And arguably becoming an even worse version of what they were originally parodying. They are just another capeshit brand made by insider hollywood weirdos for the largest corporation in the world. So edgy.
 
It's on brand for The Boys though. As they started off making fun of superhero 'capeshit'. And now are in the middle of franchising the entire series into at least three spinoffs with even more already being planned on top of those. And arguably becoming an even worse version of what they were originally parodying. They are just another capeshit brand made by insider hollywood weirdos for the largest corporation in the world. So edgy.
Obviously, the MCU made a lot of money, so copying it and making a superhero franchise is the direction they would inevitably head towards. These people have less creativity than a class full of kindergartners.

The really funny part about that is, in today's world, after so many celebrities have had their evil secrets exposed, it just makes the "Good Guys" in stuff like The Boys seem like they are hiding worse things than the "Villains".
Well, Starlight hid the fact that she killed her kid with Hughie. So it's just as bad as the Diddy reveal, if not worse. Diddy was a rapist, and Starlight's a murderer. Diddy's victims can recover with time and psychological help, but Starlight's kid is dead as a doorknob.

The show didn't survive Butcher saying the "muh wife's son" thing verbatim to me.
That was what killed all hype for me. I was enjoying Soldier Boy and hoped that he'd have a satisfying arc with Butcher and Homelander, then when Butcher said that line, I facepalmed at the screen.
 
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Like I said before in another thread, you can easily make an evil Batman. Have it so that in standard, he's the guy who beats up bad guys, but refuses to kill them and throws them into a revolving-door prison where they usually escape from to kill more dudes. Except.......you can also have it so that this "hero" owns the hospitals the bad guys are sent to, so he has no incentive to kill them, when the state pays HIS hospitals to put these people back together. Then have him own the funeral homes too, so that whenever civilians get killed by these villains, he profits from their literal deaths. Which means that he has no incentive to actually stop these criminals from killing people, because he profits from every death.

There you go. A Batman-esque villain who has every reason to keep the cycle going, where villains kill people, he beats up the villains and puts them away, refusing to kill them, they escape, and kill more people. And the hero doesn't do this because of any higher moral code, but because he literally profits from the continuation of human suffering, on the part of both the victims and the criminals. Every civilian who loses a family member to these villains, and every time these villains get beat up by this hero, the hero profits.
That's too needlessly complicated AND omits the bigger reason for doing evil Batman, which would be to make him an honest to goodness rival to Homelander. Ala Batman/Superman's rivalry. Especially since the comic made a point to have Tek Knight be a more legit hero compared to Homelander.

Ideally Tek Knight should be a brand X style hero, not aligned with Voight and a legit rival/threat to both Homelander's popularity and status as top hero (to the point that you use the feud to explain why Homelander is now running Voight himself).

Tek Knight could be a Musk style multi-millionaire trying to do a hostile takeover of Voight to clean it up, while his identity is a secret to everyone to add up the suspense. His parents were killed in South Africa so he's racist to blacks but does shit like fighting human trafficking groups (bringing in Firecracker more organically) and even making Firecracker the Nightwing/Batgirl stand in as he offered her a second chance after she slept with a barely legal teenager, which in turn creates a situation where he refuses to work with Starlight becuse of her past bullying. He does legit charity work but people like MM hate him because he also pushed the bootstrap meme and you could even tie Sister sage into this by having her be one of the people that benefited from his programs he funded elevate the poor.

And in the end, you get Tek Knight staging his own death at the hands of Butcher and his tumor tentacles after he finds out about the super killing virus, which leads Tek to cut a deal with Homelander to take in Sage and Firecracker in exchange for him doing a suicide run against Butcher to try and stop him from releasing the virus.

Tek fails but Sister Sage manages some last minute speed chest to use his death to give Homelander the inciting event to have the Boys and Starlight's supporters declared public enemy number one via them having the virus to kill all super powered folk and offer a more palatable justification for Kripke demanding a concentration camp at, via Starlight's supporters supporting a woman who's working with a guy who wants to commit genocide. And explain Firecracker crying at the end of season four as she is legit mourning Tek and putting Homelander in super serious mode by having him be aware that Butcher intends to genocide all super heroes just to kill Homelander.
 
Phoneposting again, but check out the latest oh so “clever” satire of the concerns people on the right have that this show’s Twitter account made.

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Phoneposting again, but check out the latest oh so “clever” satire of the concerns people on the right have that this show’s Twitter account made.

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What a bunch of smug pricks. Mocking people who are concerned about their grocery bill while these chucklefucks live in their mansions with private chefs who probably do their shopping for them don't even think about the price of food.
 
The show didn't survive Butcher saying the "muh wife's son" thing verbatim to me.
That really is the point where it went completely beyond parody.
What a bunch of smug pricks. Mocking people who are concerned about their grocery bill while these chucklefucks live in their mansions with private chefs who probably do their shopping for them don't even think about the price of food.
 
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