The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

Poor marketing. Little promotion.
It's funny because in my country, adverts for the show, specifically season 5, is eveywhere, touting it to be some kind of epic, fantastic story with a grand finale. Straight out of Lord of the Rings. I even see billboards at the mall.
 
So is Homelander a completely irredeemable evil character because something something Trump standin, or is he a mentally ill victim and suffering from schizophrenia and a bunch of other mental disorders because of his abusive and traumatic upbringing and is lashing out because of that?

Like if he's actually insane and is full on hallucinating things that manipulate him into doing bad things because he was abused then that kinda devalues his role as a supremely evil villain, doesn't it? Those kinds of character developments tend to add sympathy to a character and the writers keep trying to course correct him into being completely unsympathetic every time it happens, so which is it?
 
They just really have no idea how to keep this story going and are just throwing anything and everything at the wall
Well it's what happens when the show kills off the overarching villain for the comic in favor of "meta-ness"
 
If the og Garth Ennis comic's ending somehow manages to be better I'm going to cackle
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So is Homelander schitzo now? How the fuck did the writers of this series think that would somehow make him more I dunno despicable when it's obvious he won't be all out evil if he's mentally ill? Like I'm not even sure Homelander was aware he was trying to kill his son Ryan? That scene just seems weirdly shot and it went from some sort of struggle to Homelander trying to murder him, ok? Maybe the producers of this series really don't know how to end it because this third episode was a mess with the narrative?
Some theorize that he has the weird visions because he's being manipulated by that religious nigger that Ashley is dating
 
So is Homelander a completely irredeemable evil character because something something Trump standin, or is he a mentally ill victim and suffering from schizophrenia and a bunch of other mental disorders because of his abusive and traumatic upbringing and is lashing out because of that?

Like if he's actually insane and is full on hallucinating things that manipulate him into doing bad things because he was abused then that kinda devalues his role as a supremely evil villain, doesn't it? Those kinds of character developments tend to add sympathy to a character and the writers keep trying to course correct him into being completely unsympathetic every time it happens, so which is it?
Well, you see the mental illness might explain away most of his outrageous antics, but he was still a racist and as we all know that makes you irredeemable.
 
I watched clips of the whole show to this point. The ham fisting hardly veiled TDS shit is so fucking cringe and everyone involved with "writing" this dreck should be blood eagled.
 
Even Reddit has turned on this show at this point.

They just want Frenchie killed off because he is an annoying whiny cunt (I 100% agree, "punk" characters in literally any form of media are just lame as fuck), they want Kimiko to get killed off because her entire character was changed in an off-screen plane ride and all she does now is talk like a 14 year old boy who just discovered Pornhub.

Hughie is a collosal bitch, Starlight is a skeleton who has no real character/motivation and is just sort of there, MM is basically just the phrase "AAWWW, HELL NAW!" as a person except he still goes along with whatever the story needs him to do to fill in the gaps. Butcher governa' me bloody bollixes through every scene but ultimately achieves nothing.

People are rooting for Homelander at this stage because the "good guys" are so annoying that whatever way the finale plays out no one is going to care. The planned spin-offs are going to utterly fucking bomb.
 
they want Kimiko to get killed off because her entire character was changed in an off-screen plane ride and all she does now is talk like a 14 year old boy who just discovered Pornhub.
She was the only character that could act (because she couldn't speak her emotes were on another level and people felt sorry for her), so they had to turn her into a cunt.
 
Even Reddit has turned on this show at this point.

They just want Frenchie killed off because he is an annoying whiny cunt (I 100% agree, "punk" characters in literally any form of media are just lame as fuck), they want Kimiko to get killed off because her entire character was changed in an off-screen plane ride and all she does now is talk like a 14 year old boy who just discovered Pornhub.

Hughie is a collosal bitch, Starlight is a skeleton who has no real character/motivation and is just sort of there, MM is basically just the phrase "AAWWW, HELL NAW!" as a person except he still goes along with whatever the story needs him to do to fill in the gaps. Butcher governa' me bloody bollixes through every scene but ultimately achieves nothing.

People are rooting for Homelander at this stage because the "good guys" are so annoying that whatever way the finale plays out no one is going to care. The planned spin-offs are going to utterly fucking bomb.
Isn't this retarded show basically just non stop bashing of right wingers and calling them Nutzees?

Reddit should love it.
 
Isn't this retarded show basically just non stop bashing of right wingers and calling them Nutzees?

Reddit should love it.
The "you hate it because you finally realise it was mocking you" train lost a lot of momentum when Kripke outright said Hughie's rape was meant to be funny. Put a lot of progressives at the crossroad of mocking chuds but laughing at rape victims, or siding with the MAGA Nazis but shouting down the patriarchy.

Left the door wide open for all the other criticism to start getting through.
 
So is Homelander a completely irredeemable evil character because something something Trump standin, or is he a mentally ill victim and suffering from schizophrenia and a bunch of other mental disorders because of his abusive and traumatic upbringing and is lashing out because of that?

Like if he's actually insane and is full on hallucinating things that manipulate him into doing bad things because he was abused then that kinda devalues his role as a supremely evil villain, doesn't it? Those kinds of character developments tend to add sympathy to a character and the writers keep trying to course correct him into being completely unsympathetic every time it happens, so which is it?

They never understood the character to begin with. Spoiler for the comic's story.

Homelander's original premise is pretty simple: what happens to a mediocre person when he's given the powers of a god?

The thing about Homelander, in the comics that is, is that besides his given powers, he isn't a particularly interesting person; he is of average intelligence and started out as any other super in the comic, a self-absorbed asshole that was just glad to bask in the hedonism the powers and costume provide, and while arrogant, he had no particular ambitions that would go beyond his mediocre wants and needs.

But that is pieced along the comic's story, because when we first get to know Homelander, it's been years since Butcher started to fuck with him—pictures of him committing atrocities, like eating a baby, stuff that Homelander himself has no recollection of. To add to that pressure, Vought is constantly keeping him on a short leash after the 9/11 debacle, and they also threaten to cut him off from his lifestyle and expose him if he is nothing but a lapdog.

The constant stress and manipulation from both Vought and Butcher start to affect Homelander, and he devolves into a psychopath with delusions of grandeur, but even so, his ambitions and plans are painfully moronic and short-sighted. The real danger about Homelander is just his brute power and nothing else.

In the twist we found out who committed the real atrocities in Homelander's name (including the rape of Butcher's wife), which was caused essentially by a corporation micromanaging an investment asset (which, to Ennis's credit, was a funny dig at "le capitalism").

So Homelander ended up being just a putz, a fool that broke down due to pressure by people that were far, far more vicious and intelligent than him (Butcher and Stillwell) in a game far beyond his grasp. If he were to be left alone, he would still be an inept asshole, but a relatively harmless one.

To give Homelander this whole traumatic baggage, or try to turn him into a clumsy Trump analogy, goes beyond missing the point here. Homelander isn't interesting, not even in a "what if Superman bad" way; it's the people and their actions around him that are interesting.
 
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Is the actor playing MM sick? He seems to have lost a crazy amount of weight between seasons.

If the og Garth Ennis comic's ending somehow manages to be better I'm going to cackle

I have no doubt the original comic ending will be superior to this mess, but I'm having enjoying myself seeing how bad it can get.
 
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