The thing is that the provos were a genuine threat. They didn't just threaten to kill politicians, they just did it. They didn't scare politicians with words they scared them with a pipe and a bag of fertiliser. That being said clearly the higher ups are not comfortable. They're not scared to the extent that they're checking under their cars every morning but these sorts of totalitarian policies are a result of them being scared of a movement. That being said, the nIRA could do one fucking class meme if they just blew up one car in london or some shit. But the nIRA are too busy selling drugs and ruining the country to do anything worthwhile. The rest of them are no better. One of the most important things about freedom is fear, if the government does not fear you then they will always try to infringe on your rights.
but to kill someone is still something that has not been accepted enmasse by the oppressed brits.
It wasn't by the Irish either, a lot of Irish people did not want the troubles and most people did not support anything that endangered civilians. There's also a big difference between targeted violence against the UVF (the group that started the troubles) or other types of political figure and random immigrants on the street (unless you're the UVF). A lot of the violence was targeted at the police or army and the paramilitary groups, it wasn't random northern irish citizens. I think that's the biggest issue when comparing the current situation to the troubles. At the moment there is no real enemy. If you tell the Irish public that a paramilitary group just shot one of you and that you're declaring war against them then they will be on your side. England does not have this. Sure the stabbings and rapes are bad and the shit in the past month are worse than what the UVF did, but there's nothing like that here. It was a lone wolf under no name. If there was a group like isis ingrained in England and doing this sort of shit then it might be different. What would an English paramilitary declare war on? Muslims? There's not enough fertiliser in the country for that and immigration is a concept so you can't shoot it. I think it's easy to forget the time scale of the troubles though. This wasn't a war like the german ones, it was a slow process of guerilla warfare. There are months between major events in the troubles not days. It was long and it was drawn out, it was mostly peaceful in most cities in Ireland (all things considered). It also took a long time and a lot to happen for the provos to actually take up arms and shoot back. For reference the first UVF attack was in 66, the provos did not shoot back until 70. Finding arms and explosives is not something you do overnight, it takes time to arm a militia. You don't learn how to use a lathe in a day, and you definitely don't perfect it in a day. A lot of the troubles was also reciprical, UVF shoots a catholic so the provos shoot a protestant. So far no Englishman has done that. There have been no real attacks by englishmen yet.
If I was in the military (I'm not) and I was arrested for this shit, I'd turn full traitor and give any country that will give me citizenship all of the valuable info about the military I had.
Do something funnier and 'disappear' a few crates of arms instead.
I know Ireland isn’t in the UK but as the neighbouring country I think it’s relevant to post this.
I know the thread is about the uk but Ireland isn't free from the same issues. If Ireland goes through the same sorts of riots that we did then shit will hit the fan. The provos disbanded but you're a fucking retard if you think that they gave up all of those weapons they had. They surrendered a lot but there is almost certainly a lot that remained stashed or was intentionally hidden during that process. The provos surrendered, they didn't change their minds. They surrendered because they didn't see a threat to the Irish people (by the UVF + UDA) anymore. There are still active paramilitary groups in Ireland, the IRA still exists in both the real and new ira. The P/INLA still exist (and burnt down a charity building a few months ago). The factions that split off from the unionists are still around too. There are still many shootings and beatings in Ireland carried out by these people. A lot of them are already anti crime, a lot already beat and shoot drug dealers, at least when they're not doing it themselves. If Ireland started to enforce the same rules as England and had the same sorts of crimes happen to them with the same sort of public outcry then I think someone would have been shot by now. These groups are small, then again the provos didn't even really exist when the UVF killed that first civilian.
Look at their online activity.
I'd rather not have cp on my computer so I think you'd have to skip that step.
