The British Summer of Discontent - The growing civil unrest of the native British population, sparked by the murder of 3 young girls in Southport

[Overly Serious]

About the stabbings by Muslims.

There's currently no evidence that Rudakubana was a Muslim. He might have been and for sure the British state would suppress that info if he were so, but we don't know he was. Nor is it necessarily about stabbings. Rotherham rape gangs and other mass rapes in other areas isn't primarily about stabbings. The UK govt. going out of its way to recruit young Nigerian men to make up the British army and giving them citizenship in return isn't about stabbings. Nor is the huge amount of money given to illegal migrants arriving by boat. Nor the arrests for voicing an objection to this stuff.

It's about immigration, discrimination in policing, cultural identity and many things.

EDIT: There's an update on the status of the woman who was stabbed protecting the children in Southport.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/update-hero-yoga-teacher-leanne-29806932

https://archive.md/wip/NrhO0

She was stabbed in the arms, back and neck. She is now reportedly awake and has spoken to friends and family who said she "sounded broken".

 

[Drihten]

I hope the guy survives, the fact he was just out and about with his dog and his kid, horrifying. And to just film the aftermath with zero empathy is pure evil. At least the kid was facing the other way the entire time, that's the only mercy from this.

Thankfully he did survive, at least according to this BBC article.

Attempted murder arrests after man stabbed

 

[Alpaca Autopsy Expert]

EDIT: There's an update on the status of the woman who was stabbed protecting the children in Southport.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/update-hero-yoga-teacher-leanne-29806932

https://archive.md/wip/NrhO0

She was stabbed in the arms, back and neck. She is now reportedly awake and has spoken to friends and family who said she "sounded broken".

Now that she’s awake, maybe she can shed light on the killer’s mystifying motive?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Now that she’s awake, maybe she can shed light on the killer’s mystifying motive?

Assuming she's allowed to and not nudged into don't-look-back-in-angering.

 

[FedPostalService]

Now that she’s awake, maybe she can shed light on the killer’s mystifying motive?

Maybe those little girls said the N word?

 

[Overly Serious]

Now that she’s awake, maybe she can shed light on the killer’s mystifying motive?

Possibly. Though if he burst in there shouting anything politically sensitive they'd try to push her into being silent, like @teriyakiburns said.

Right now, I just hope she's not in too much pain and will make a full physical recovery. She's just a regular person. I try to think of women I know in my life and imagine them going through such a thing. No warning, normal life with normal concerns and then this happens to them. Just so senseless and horrible.

Meanwhile every possible piece of evidence you need has been dropped right in the police's lap yet his trial isn't until next year and people are getting < 48hrs processing for being in the vicinity of a riot. Blatantly just trying to postpone it to get it out of the news. Which makes me think all the more that there was some political sentiment associated with what he did.

 

[Roland TB-303]

Possibly. Though if he burst in there shouting anything politically sensitive they'd try to push her into being silent, like @teriyakiburns said.

Right now, I just hope she's not in too much pain and will make a full physical recovery. She's just a regular person. I try to think of women I know in my life and imagine them going through such a thing. No warning, normal life with normal concerns and then this happens to them. Just so senseless and horrible.

Meanwhile every possible piece of evidence you need has been dropped right in the police's lap yet his trial isn't until next year and people are getting < 48hrs processing for being in the vicinity of a riot. Blatantly just trying to postpone it to get it out of the news. Which makes me think all the more that there was some political sentiment associated with what he did.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

There's currently no evidence that Rudakubana was a Muslim

Remember the rule that if the media doesn't mention White or Christian about the attacker it's 100% a minority. And if it doesn't mention that the victim was a minority he/she are 100% white.

Is NHS rioting? Is NHS the ones stabbing the children which is causing the riots? This is not a dime a dozen "la brown bad dhau" thread. It's a thread about the riots in UK.

Brits are obsessed with the NHS, it's their golden cow that is the center of their superiority complex with the USA (ie, "You Americans will let poor people die from disease"). Ironically it's also why tons of illegals comes to their country while any sane and wealthy person would move to the USA. Especially doctors that can earn several times as much with better conditions.

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

Hardly any Irish person, north or south, could find kinship with ex UDA-UVF killers. The loyalist paramilitaries that marched with some of the Coolock men are explicitly anti-Irish. Some counterresponses to the nationalists upset about this is that the IRA killed the most amount of Catholics. Even if the IRA killed more Irish Catholics than any other group, why would any sane Irish nationalist stand with members of a group that had a doomsday plan for genociding all the Irish from Northern Ireland? What makes my blood boil is that these anti-Irish loyalists will only use these victims for their narrative when they actually don't give the slightest fuck about them.



I've seen a lot of loyalist apologists online saying that the UVF/UDA protected the Protestants in the Troubles. But they aren't famed for their intellect so I'm not surprised. The UVF/UDA ended up killing far more civilians than IRA and other republican paramilitary soldiers. One of the gunmen even shot a WWI veteran who fought in the 36th Ulster division at the Battle of the Somme. Because nothing says "protecting" the PUL community more than shooting your own kin! This doesn't mean I support or condone the PIRA or other republican paramilitaries. While their victims were mostly service men and military personnel, the IRA had no qualms with killing anyone even innocent civilians to achieve their goals. Those who robbed banks, post offices and blew up innocent civilians in the name of their beliefs are anything but "freedom fighters".


The folks from Coolock who marched with ex loyalist para members in Belfast are complete and utter fools who deserved all the scorn from other protestors in Coolock.

 

[FedPostalService]

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Hardly any Irish person, north or south, could find kinship with ex UDA-UVF killers. The loyalist paramilitaries that marched with some of the Coolock men are explicitly anti-Irish. Some counterresponses to the nationalists upset about this is that the IRA killed the most amount of Catholics. Even if the IRA killed more Irish Catholics than any other group, why would any sane Irish nationalist stand with members of a group that had a doomsday plan for genociding all the Irish from Northern Ireland? What makes my blood boil is that these anti-Irish loyalists will only use these victims for their narrative when they actually don't give the slightest fuck about them.



I've seen a lot of loyalist apologists online saying that the UVF/UDA protected the Protestants in the Troubles. But they aren't famed for their intellect so I'm not surprised. The UVF/UDA ended up killing far more civilians than IRA and other republican paramilitary soldiers. One of the gunmen even shot a WWI veteran who fought in the 36th Ulster division at the Battle of the Somme. Because nothing says "protecting" the PUL community more than shooting your own kin! This doesn't mean I support or condone the PIRA or other republican paramilitaries. While their victims were mostly service men and military personnel, the IRA had no qualms with killing anyone even innocent civilians to achieve their goals. Those who robbed banks, post offices and blew up innocent civilians in the name of their beliefs are anything but "freedom fighters".


The folks from Coolock who marched with ex loyalist para members in Belfast are complete and utter fools who deserved all the scorn from other protestors in Coolock.

“Let’s let our country get taken over by Africa. I wouldn’t want people to think I was associating with the wrong people. Keep the boats coming!”

Why are potato monkeys like this?

 

[Violent Ken Apologist]

What do you think the recent events have been about?

The "summer of discontent" is entirely about the strain of foreigners. The stabbings were a catalyst for the built up woes of that strain. I think the debate on private vs public healthcare doesn't belong on here, but discussions regarding the strain on public services by foreigners absolutely does.

I appreciate the relative politeness in this thread given my brusque demeanour. I apologise for that. To iterate, I was born in Fleet and don't live in the UK anymore as of my early 30s. This is also the last post I want to make in this thread

If you didn't have a public healthcare service, they absolutely would not have arrived on your shores in droves. This is the thing about dealing with large numbers of people or strategies. You can be as proud of your class as you want but the unequivocal fact is that a classist in a place of high station conceiving of the least effective policy will only be as good as any fool because the universe is indifferent to your status and wants an answer of 4 when it's asking what 2+2 is

If you understand how to run a business or lead an army you differentiate between tactics, strategies, objectives and goals

For a strategy involving lots of large numbers of people you do not want an obstructive melange of exceptions made to accommodate different groups and which require scrupulously involved budgeting practices that contort in lockstep with your ever changing economic demands. See: how the NHS is adapting to the 'changes' in population. The UK government have awful strategies and obsessively use tactics, which can only really deal with small scale situations or problem solve minute hurdles for the hopefully elegant system you'd be using if you were governing better.

Now, tactics. See: Keir's handling of this, the psy op mill, the constant deflection and blame games. - Are rigid and slimy methodologies that rarely assist in isolation unless they're the last refuge of a person hoping to survive an antagonistic engagement. And an antagonistic relationship is exactly what they have with you.

A private system is simple. Everyone gets it. It is immediately dissuasive to the ire of individual you're obviously not interested in visiting from abroad. The fact of the matter is that all of the speculation on this matter is cope, because public healthcare was from the get go one of three or four decisive blunders leading to me skibidy toileting on a flight and hightailing it out of there.

If we were to amend and change something that works great, which either way is amenable to regulation with greater manoeuvrability and finesse than the cancer lottery you have now, then you better have a great alternative in mind. And, were we to say that a public healthcare system is this alternative, you better have something akin to a 20-50% performance increase for all the hassle and constant middle management a freakshow like the NHS entails

The reason you want government involved in as little as possible is that competition breeds innovation. The government's competition is who?

I think you mentioned being part of UKIP at some point. If anyone who has or contracts any sway with our administration was to ever peruse this shitpost I ask (in vain I am sure) that they study enough about economics to become aware of the parallels between the pyramid on a socialist society's ideal birth graph and why they call pyramid schemes what they are. It requires infinite growth which then fosters the need to import if our birthrates aren't up to slop with it

To the fucking janny, to dismiss out of hand that these things are intercorrelated is to bely a lack of experience with having an infection in 2020 and hearing 'ur thru to vale road health center please press 9 to continue or consider visiting our website for our e-consult website at double u double double u dot fsdjfdssdfu skibidy jewblox btw our email'

It's a special kind of hell where there's no oblique disembodiment between institutions like you might be more used to in the US and everything has a massive knock on effect that makes itself clear with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer when you need A&E help, which grenade lobbing my e-commerce bux wasn't able to acquire.

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

Don't forget this Indian manlet who's a UUP politician now.

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The cry from Londondelhi's walls was "1690 no sarrendar"


Indians have a very large demographic in Northern Ireland and around 33% of them identify as British.

 

[Conditional Format]

I live in a country with privatized healthcare, and it doesn't stop migrants / asylum seekers from coming as they know they will be compensated for any 'private' healthcare (and other) costs in full.
Likewise, the US is widely considered to have a very messed up system of HC, but that doesn't stop migrants - they either live outside the system, illegally, or know how to access the gibs that the nominally-not-socialist government provides.
Denmark, on the other hand, has a public/private healthcare mix, but has simply enacted a policy to disallow migration: 'Denmark has repeatedly tightened its immigration policies in recent years. It now has some of the toughest rules in Europe, and has set a target of zero asylum applications.'
Belgium has a largely public system, but they have enacted a policy to dissuade single male asylum seekers: 'Belgium's government will no longer provide shelter for single men seeking asylum, arguing its insufficient reception capacity should be freed for families, women and children first.'

So what you actually need is a government which puts the restrictions against migration in place that voters ask for, regardless of the healthcare or other 'gibs' in place for the actual native populace. Where it went wrong in the UK is that voters were lied to by successive Tory governments about their 'tough on migration' stance, and then, instead of voting for an actual anti-migrant party, they stayed home in numbers large enough to allow the explicitly pro-migration Labour party to win a huge majority despite only 20(?) percent of the electorate voting for them. Failing to seize the opportunity to change the first-past-the-post system also hurt the UK immensely. Just look at this nonsense:

Conservative

votes: 6,827,112

seats: 121

Reform UK

votes: 4,106,661

seats: 5

Labour

votes: 9,731,363

seats: 411

This is not a democracy. This is why things never change (for the better.)

 

[RACISM]

If you mention "it's wet!" everytime you talk about water you will look like a sperg.

I see the reddit janny has really improved the thread though, way to go.

And if you refuse to say it's wet, jail people for saying it's wet, and call people hydroites for saying it's wet, well that's just normal I suppose. You spastic gimp nigger.

 

[NoIdeaWhatImDoing]

So what you actually need is a government which puts the restrictions against migration in place that voters ask for, regardless of the healthcare or other 'gibs' in place for the actual native populace. Where it went wrong in the UK is that voters were lied to by successive Tory governments about their 'tough on migration' stance, and then, instead of voting for an actual anti-migrant party, they stayed home in numbers large enough to allow the explicitly pro-migration Labour party to win a huge majority despite only 20(?) percent of the electorate voting for them. Failing to seize the opportunity to change the first-past-the-post system also hurt the UK immensely. Just look at this nonsense:

The main problem is that there are parts of the economy that enrich themselves with these migrants, for example schools and universities.
The main issue I see with a lot of these migrants is their entitlement, which seems very common with Arabs/Muslims and Indians. People who are entitled tend to get violent when they don't get what they want.
You didn't see that level of entitlement with the east Asian boat refugees, even though USA was in part to blame for the mess there. I think it's because the genders and ages were more even, while in the new crop it's mostly young males from the middle class(it costs thousands of dollars to get to Europe).


By the way I remember a program about some Syrians bitching about how they were going to be sent back to Syria by the Danish government and how inhumane it was. Mind you that Syria is mostly controlled by the government and having a tinny part of your territory controlled by militias is no ground for asylum ( A Nigerian tried that with Boko Haram and the judge told her " move to another part of Nigeria" and send her back).

 

[Useful_Mistake]

It appears that my read of the rules was incorrect and I would like to apologize to all the British. I'll undelete posts regarding NHS and immigration (in so far as it directly relates to UK. "Immigration general" is still not for this thread). Moving forward I will be more lax on those sort of posts.

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

This is not a democracy. This is why things never change (for the better.)

It is, by definition, a representative democracy with single-member electorates.

You can argue that another system of voting would be better, but you cannot argue that it is undemocratic. Fair warning: proportional representation makes it harder to get rid of the establishment, not easier.

 

[FedPostalService]

It appears that my read of the rules was incorrect and I would like to apologize to all the British. I'll undelete posts regarding NHS and immigration (in so far as it directly relates to UK. "Immigration general" is still not for this thread). Moving forward I will be more lax on those sort of posts.

Now go back to Reddit.

 

[Drihten]

Now go back to Reddit.

He's admitted his mistake lad, let it go, save your hatred for actual Redditor vermin on r/UnitedKingdom and such. They were the only places online who swallowed the mainstream narrative regarding this situation wholesale.

 

[Otterly]

She was stabbed in the arms, back and neck. She is now reportedly awake and has spoken to friends and family who said she "sounded broken".

Horrendous. Poor woman, she’s waking up to severe injuries and the trauma of what she saw still fresh. I hope she finds some peace and heals as well as she can.
The stabbing video is horrific. How can we as society see this stuff and not react with absolute horror and demands for this cancer to be removed? What is wrong with us?