The Critical Drinker

[Miller]

Of course he liked it. He desperately wants his book series to be adapted by Hollywood.

 

[The Nothingness]

Comments under the video are not as braindead as you might think, which is kinda refreshing:
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Also lol:
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I'm curious if Drinker will make a response to comments that point out his shilling or if he'll just let the EFAP stans do it for him.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

its funny Drinker and the EFAP were sperging out about sweet baby ink and ESG like, two weeks ago but wont call the fallout show woke.

atleast the show helps you weed out who is a shill or not.

 

[TheRaptorJesus]

I'm honestly waiting for the rest of his cohorts to post their opinions. Lets see if the entire genre is full of fakes.

 

[Schway]

its funny Drinker and the EFAP were sperging out about sweet baby ink and ESG like, two weeks ago but wont call the fallout show woke.

atleast the show helps you weed out who is a shill or not.

A year or so ago when his "what is woke" video dropped(where he defends a black norse god btw) I talked about this with some other people in the thread but the guy is basically a grifter with an angle. Like many of these people he only cares about the "quality" but not enough to investigate what the downfall of quality is truly related to and not enough to talk about what has to be opposed to bring it back.

He fundamentally is a good little normie who wants social brownie points, he doesn't truly oppose the core idea of progressivism, just the parts that are seen as "cringe" in certain circles. That's why even though sweet baby inc and the like have existed for years he never really found out about these companies or criticized them, he was scared of being " political", "a schizo", "racist", "sexist" ect.
But now that it's a popular thing to talk about on the anti-woke side, he along with many others are all about slamming on this company, there usual "is this truly woke" caveats not to be found, because those caveats are there just to keep themselves within the Overton window.
You can see this if you just look at what he complains about now and his anti-woke video, what are the actual end-result differences between the other products of people like sweet-baby inc and GOW:R... Nothing really, but his take is different simply because that is how the winds of conversation are now blowing.

People like him don't help push anything into the mainstream, they wait and capitalize on it often draining the energy or misdirecting in the process. Someone like act-man or whatever the name of the bald starfield guy that freaked out on stream is many times more honest because you can tell he on an emotional lvl cares about the topic, even if he is somewhat confused.

If CD only cares about quality he should drop the whole anti-woke angle he obviously doesn't care about beyond the surface level, though I'm sure that would cause the grift bucks to go down.

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

Comments under the video are not as braindead as you might think, which is kinda refreshing:
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The Brotherhood of Steel aren't luddites. To quote Mr. House "they're techno-fetishists;"

 

[Cheeseknife]

But now that it's a popular thing to talk about on the anti-woke side, he along with many others are all about slamming on this company, there usual "is this truly woke" caveats not to be found, because those caveats are there just to keep themselves within the Overton window.
You can see this if you just look at what he complains about now and his anti-woke video, what are the actual end-result differences between the other products of people like sweet-baby inc and GOW:R... Nothing really, but his take is different simply because that is how the winds of conversation are now blowing.

In a nutshell, this. Covered in a larger video about Sweet Baby Inc.

 

[SherlockMexicano]

I gotta disagree with the idea that CD is being a grifter. For one that's a very cynical interpretation.

I think it's more likely he is trying to be a voice of reason that it's actually watchable by normies. Because, let's be honest, most of the fandom menance types are kind off pathetic outside their echo chambers.

Heel vs Baby face had an embarrassing meltdown about pronouns, and The Quartering is a grown man in his 40's whining about a children's card game.

On the other hand, I have seen people agreeing with the critical drinker that are either normies or lefties. Whatever he is doing it’s working. People use “The message” unironically to mock woke shit . And he is doing it without falling into retarded politics like his fellow fandom menance types. And that has red pilled more people, than Doomcuck promising Kathleen Kennedy is going to be fired for sure for the 50th time.

CD is just asking for good stories, and that's a sensible take that everyone can agree on. Iñstead of a retarded machild in his 40's whining about cape shit, Disney, and franchises made for literal children, or whatever the other fandom menace types are whining about these days.

 

[starborn427614]

On the other hand, I have seen people agreeing with the critical drinker that are both normies and lefties. Whatever he is doing he is obviously doing it without falling into retarded politics. And that had red pilled more people than Doomcuck promising Kathleen Kennedy is going to be fior sure for the 50th time. CD is just asking for good stories, and that's a sensible take that everyone can agree on. I sead of a retarded machild in his 40's whining about cape shit, Disney, or franchises made for literal children, or whatever the other fandom menace types are whining about.

This is partially why I was subscribed to him in the first place, he struck a balance.

 

[Tepes Thot]

Heel vs Baby face had an embarrassing meltdown about pronouns,

I agree with your general premise, Drinker is dammed if he does damned if he doesn’t. Grifter is a word too loosely thrown by both sides too.

However, people really need to stop perpetuating this lie. HvB was mad about the entirety of mediocre offerings from Starfield. He ranted after about six hours in, and the pronouns were part of the overall rant, not the entire rant. That got clipped and lie-posted as being all that there was. You can call that spergy/cringe/whatever, but it’s no different than any other angry review of which there are too many to count.

 

[Schway]

On the other hand, I have seen people agreeing with the critical drinker that are either normies or lefties. Whatever he is doing it’s working. People use “The message” unironically to mock woke shit . And he is doing it without falling into retarded politics like his fellow fandom menance types. And that has red pilled more people, than Doomcuck promising Kathleen Kennedy is going to be fired for sure for the 50th time.

It's not really redpilling people because at the same time he "complains" about the message he makes sure people don't really comprehend what it is beyond "oh, cringe sjw stuff" and locks in slightly less obnoxious leftie stuff as "not woke" and not something you're allowed to complain about. It's definitely working at getting him views though. I view him the same way I see many "conservative" types, who are coming in complaining about the latest outcropping of whatever progressive push is going on only to say that the 5 year old version of that push was great and non-political.

I agree with your general premise, Drinker is dammed if he does damned if he doesn’t. Grifter is a word too loosely thrown by both sides too.

I don't see how he is damned if he says the GOW is woke, that Angrboda has no business being black or if he just does not make that "what is woke video". I don't think he's doing it totally for money, I think he has a whiff of someone who prides himself on not being "political" about him as well. But he's definitely someone who is one way or another driven mostly by the current state of the discourse.

 

[Tepes Thot]

It's not really redpilling people because at the same time he "complains" about the message he makes sure people don't really comprehend what it is beyond "oh, cringe sjw stuff" and locks in slightly less obnoxious leftie stuff as "not woke" and not something you're allowed to complain about. It's definitely working at getting him views though. I view him the same way I see many "conservative" types, who are coming in complaining about the latest outcropping of whatever progressive push is going on only to say that the 5 year old version of that push was great and non-political.



I don't see how he is damned if he says the GOW is woke, that Angrboda has no business being black or if he just does not make that "what is woke video". I don't think he's doing it totally for money, I think he has a whiff of someone who prides himself on not being "political" about him as well. But he's definitely someone who is one way or another driven mostly by the current state of the discourse.

For the people that say he’s a culture warrior and complains about everything, and he’s just as annoying as the SJWs, can’t enjoy anything etc.
If he gives modern media praise he’s grifting, if he calls out The Message(tm), he’s a polititard.

That’s a big criticism of him, FM, and Mauler & Co,

This isn’t aimed at people who are consistent and want to know why he excuses woke here, and not there.

 

[mlanguishi]

For the people that say he’s a culture warrior and complains about everything, and he’s just as annoying as the SJWs, can’t enjoy anything etc.
If he gives modern media praise he’s grifting, if he calls out The Message(tm), he’s a polititard.

That’s a big criticism of him, FM, and Mauler & Co,

This isn’t aimed at people who are consistent and want to know why he excuses woke here, and not there.

There aren't too many 'culture warriors' I've seen that could be for that held those beliefs beyond it just being a job. Rush Limbaugh on the right, and Rachael Maddow on the left for sure. Most of, if not all, youtubers are just faking it to create and/or cater to an audience. Not that many come out and outright support Biden or Trump, or anything. They're all playing it safe not much different than Critikal.

Clownfish is also that way. Always saying 'we aren't right' and 'we used to be considered liberal' but they never flat out say what they're for, just how they're against ultra faggotry. Well that's nice for awhile, but how about a real position on something besides what most consider crap.

 

[Tepes Thot]

There aren't too many 'culture warriors' I've seen that could be for that held those beliefs beyond it just being a job. Rush Limbaugh on the right, and Rachael Maddow on the left for sure. Most of, if not all, youtubers are just faking it to create and/or cater to an audience. Not that many come out and outright support Biden or Trump, or anything. They're all playing it safe not much different than Critikal.

Clownfish is also that way. Always saying 'we aren't right' and 'we used to be considered liberal' but they never flat out say what they're for, just how they're against ultra faggotry. Well that's nice for awhile, but how about a real position on something besides what most consider crap.

This is exactly what I’m talking about. If they don’t match some boomer view of politics (exact Republican, or exact Democrat), they’re grifting.

Why do they need to break down who they vote for, or talk about policy prescriptions? They’re Star Wars people, that’s their lane and they should stay in it. Nobody should be going to them for opinions on policy. Politics is rammed in our media like religious tracts, and you can’t get around that. Otherwise, they wouldn’t need to discuss them as much as they do now.

 

[mlanguishi]

This is exactly what I’m talking about. If they don’t match some boomer view of politics (exact Republican, or exact Democrat), they’re grifting.

Why do they need to break down who they vote for, or talk about policy prescriptions? They’re Star Wars people, that’s their lane and they should stay in it. Nobody should be going to them for opinions on policy. Politics is rammed in our media like religious tracts, and you can’t get around that. Otherwise, they wouldn’t need to discuss them as much as they do now.

Everything has needed to be absolutely pigeon-holed for since 2016. Before that you could kind of leave your leanings into it, but you didn't have to take a hard stance. It's actually gone on longer, the only time things were 'united' socially/politically in the USA was in the 9 months or so after 9/11, then it all went back to shit. Before 9/11 the leftist politics were mostly CNN and NYT and things like doonesbury and NPR.

Now everyone and their cat has to be for or against everything. It's the overton window to extremes where it's one or another. I can't for the LIFE of me tell what Trump did t hat different than Obama overall except some minor tax things and immigration reform. IMO he was better than things are now by a bit, but goddamn if biden wins again it'll just be more goofy shit in general.

If Trump wins, it'll be still goofy shit, but maybe a bit less so. Fucking getting tired of this crap. Trump's a freaking liberal imo on social stuff, and the right loves him. It's all just a name-game of sides. Us vs them, no principles anymore.

 

[Schway]

This is exactly what I’m talking about. If they don’t match some boomer view of politics (exact Republican, or exact Democrat), they’re grifting.

Why do they need to break down who they vote for, or talk about policy prescriptions? They’re Star Wars people, that’s their lane and they should stay in it. Nobody should be going to them for opinions on policy. Politics is rammed in our media like religious tracts, and you can’t get around that. Otherwise, they wouldn’t need to discuss them as much as they do now.

I don't really care who they vote for specifically, they are complaining about something that is an outcropping of specific politics and they are onboard with an earlier version of it that has the same issues just less obviously. The people that comprise their audience detect that something is wrong and are looking for a reason, these people are giving them a very myopic version of it that doesn't lead anywhere. That's why I call them grifters, because they're grifting off genuine concerns but refuse to actually do due diligence on how to solve the problems the concerns are about.

And they are not trying to stay in the lane of star wars people, they are explicitly talking about political ideologies, or at least the results of that, in fact that's pretty much what their channel is about but told through the medium of movies. Critical drinker isn't really a "movie review who happens to sometimes talk about anti-woke stuff" he's a "Anti-woke movie review guy" it's what made him get big.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

I agree with your general premise, Drinker is dammed if he does damned if he doesn’t. Grifter is a word too loosely thrown by both sides too.

However, people really need to stop perpetuating this lie. HvB was mad about the entirety of mediocre offerings from Starfield. He ranted after about six hours in, and the pronouns were part of the overall rant, not the entire rant. That got clipped and lie-posted as being all that there was. You can call that spergy/cringe/whatever, but it’s no different than any other angry review of which there are too many to count.

it should be pointed out that HeelsVsBabyface hams it up in every video. If the few minutes he spent discussing Starfield pronouns was a “meltdown” then every video he has made about anything qualifies as a meltdown

 

[SherlockMexicano]

It's not really redpilling people because at the same time he "complains" about the message he makes sure people don't really comprehend what it is beyond "oh, cringe sjw stuff" and locks in slightly less obnoxious leftie stuff as "not woke" and not something you're allowed to complain about. It's definitely working at getting him views though. I view him the same way I see many "conservative" types, who are coming in complaining about the latest outcropping of whatever progressive push is going on only to say that the 5 year old version of that push was great and non-political.

I mean maybe our ideas of “redpilling” are different. But normies don’t care, and won’t ever care about the nuances and details of wokeism. Not even us that hate woke shit care. We only “care” because they started to ruin our favorite franchises.

For most people it’s indeed just annoying cringe SJW stuff. Because that’s exactly what it is. Cringe retarded shit.

As far as normies know one day movies and tv shows started become preachy and shitty out of nowhere . And he helped people realize why, and how. And most importantly how to mock it.


And he did help because even the BBC started using “the messsge” to mock Doctor Who. https://www.bbc.com/culture/article...0th-anniversary-special-is-a-whimsical-affair

So I say it worked. We don’t need to understand the retarded shit they were taught in their gender studies class. Just being able to understand their tricks, knowing they exist, and being able to mock them is already a huge win. They wanted to gaslight people and win with no resistance and win via a boiling frog strategy.

Just Ask Sweet baby inc. They hate people knowing they exist. Because they know normies would despise them if they knew they existed. And they were right.

And the drinker struck the perfect balance. He cares enough to understand why entertainment started to suck and has suggestions on how to improve it, but he is not stupid enough to enter into stupid slap fights like The quartering or Domcuck usually do.

He simply just wants better movies. Like all of us.

 

[mlanguishi]

He simply just wants better movies. Like all of us.

Of course we all want that. But that precludes, by the very definition of it, wokeness and political leftwing agendas. You won't get better films before that it fully excised like a cancer. It has to fully go. I don't think Drinker himself really cares all that much about that fact, but it is how it has to be.

There's been 2 good/ok movies since 2019 IMO, Top Gun 2 which was pretty good and Oppenheimer which will stand up as a great of this time. Who is going to remember Avatar 2? Even now.

ETA and why the fuck is Avatar 1 and 2 the top grossing movies? Nobody remembered either of them a month after.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films

Most of those tops are at least something people remember, if you ask anyone if they heard of Avatar they'd probably go 'uh what?'

 

[SherlockMexicano]

Of course we all want that. But that precludes, by the very definition of it, wokeness and political leftwing agendas. You won't get better films before that it fully excised like a cancer. It has to fully go. I don't think Drinker himself really cares all that much about that fact, but it is how it has to be.

Have you seen his "Why modern movies suck? Because he does exactly that.

I agree woke shit has to go completely. But the only difference is that he goes into the nuance of why Woke shit doesn't work. instead of being like " Le evil SJWs and KK hate us" like the quartering or Doomcuck do.

I for one find his approach far more valuable