The Difference between users.

This place is just another self harm chamber for me. I've been moving from chamber to chamber since 1996. Forums on random pages, then Yahoo chat, then IMDB boards, various MRA groups, a Dominionist web site for a couple of months, Gaiaonline for WAYYYYYYY too long, and now this. It has served it's purpose well and may just do what the others couldn't.

And legit, I do like some of the viewpoints around here. Unique and I can't find them anywhere else (which is good in the case of a lot of you psychopaths).
 
the internet is becoming a faggier place, i remember when saying "nigger" anyone wasn't just a dream, but something that could be done (albeit you'll get scolded as an "edgelord" but that's probably tame compared to "nazi white supremacist racist terrorist") now in certain places you can't even say "retarded" anymore because muh ableism

i joined here when i was hosting my own space like this one, and realised how hard it is to host a website with free speech without it becoming yet another autistic safespace for the underaged fueled with rage that will slander eachother to the death until the oldfags fuck off, yet alone having traffic high enough to keep you motivated hosting it

Josh has given up his normal life just so we can laugh at obese people that have gay sex and eat 20 meters of takis noodles, it means something when you are constantly bombared with legal threats and rage all because you host a gossip forum that think trannies aren't real women and google your full name to find out you fap to gay catboy scat. I think we should take a moment appreciate all the trouble null had to go through for us
 
I've been on this site on and off for years (don't let this account registration date fools you, I've been here for years). I think my first account was created in 2016, then I'd forgot about it.

KF didn't changed much over the years and I think is because the focus of the site is mostly onto others than the userbase, which keeps drama between its members up to minimum and there is always a constant stream of new users flooding the farms to laugh at someone or something retarded, which they cannot do on Twitter or Reddit anymore.

And I legit consider Josh a very smart guy who goes above and beyond to keep free speech in place in detriment of himself most of the time, just so we could laugh at deviants and retards just for a little while.

So @Null thank you for creating, mantaining and running the farms.
 
I mostly just use this website for the Community Watch and Internet Famous threads, mainly Dream, Hasan, and MCYTTWT. This is one of the few places where you can laugh at those people without getting dogpiled by stans. I originally joined because I wanted to make a thread on CallMeCarson and his friends throwing him under the bus (hence the username), but someone beat me to it and nothing really came of that.
 
I’ve lurked probably close to a decade before joining. I used to be more active on 4chan before it became complete shit (yeah, it was always shit), and Reddit to a degree. I ended up joining because, frankly, it’s refreshing to have actual debates. My focus was initially the cows I’d been following for years, but like most users, you get drawn into polisperging because of the site’s new-ish climate.

Problem users? The only ones I have issues with are TERFS and rabid feminists in general, so I avoid the threads with the highest concentrations. Otherwise I get on well with most people, even those with whom I disagree about politics/lifestyle/whatever, so long as they don’t loose their shit over someone disagreeing with them.

Plus it’s always cool to meet other Gaddafi fans in the wild. I’m too autistic to do my nigga justice, and I can be cheeky, but I like to keep the flame alive in my own way.
 
I originally came here to laugh at the bad art in the SJW Art thread. I actually found the thread on Google of all places by accident. I was just happy to find a place where people can make fun of stupid raceswaps and sexuality/gender identity "headcanons" and not be called a bigot/nazi/whathaveyou. It was just a time in my life where I was kinda sick of seeing the samey-same, ugly art style (red nose, bean mouth, CalArts, etc...) and found others who pretty much felt the same way. I even remember the old joke where someone would ask why something/someone was X way and another user would reply (typically in a spoiler) with the little autism puzzle piece.

I stay on here because I can actually speak my mind without getting instabanned or having the mob dogpile me. Like I can say transwomen AREN'T women, I think the scamdemic was nothing but a powergrab, or Donald Trump won in 2020. I love that Kiwi Farms isn't a hivemind like many mainstream sites where only one opinion/narrative is allowed; there's actual diversity of thought here. Kiwi Farms: Real Diversity. Plus, this site gives me good genuine laughs and that's always fun. I've also learned a lot of things on here, whether it be new music; new movies; or random trivia.
 
I was on 4ch for more than a decade, since around 2007-8. I made an account here in 2016 and I just forgot about it until CWC got arrested.

I consider myself a refugee from 4ch and the tranny tyranny of reddit only because the discussion on The Farms is refreshingly less moderated (policed), as long as you don’t post porn or your autistic personal army requests (or threats to minecraft in minecraft). I can have/read satisfying conversations about the topics that interest me at this point in my life, or I can point and laugh at the lolcows. It’s one of if not the only places left on the surface web where you can have a full spectrum of discussion on a wide variety of topics without any tranny moderators coming in and cracking down on wrongthink.
 
the post-merge influx of users is something of note because you had a couple of groups that emerged from it
  1. 4chan users, who brought over the humor of that board to here and will never shut the fuck up about the troons. probably the reason why the political sperging reaction was added
  2. mainstream tourists who just wanted to ask questions then never came back once chris was locked up. mainly from reddit and twitter, may or may not see a return of them once that saga advances.
  3. lurkers who finally decided to sign up for an account, not too hated and living proof that the "lurk moar" mantra works. about as rare as a unicorn.
  4. online refugees who were kicked off every mainstream platform, is the reason why you can't get your normie friends onto these alternate platforms.
out of these, about 50-70 percent of these post-merge users have since left the site with those remaining being the ones who have, at the very minimum, adapted to the forums culture and now just blend in like any other member of the forum.
that's simply the way online communities work with new users, no matter the amount.

i'm speaking from experience here too - in the past i was part of a relatively obscure board thats long since gone, and we'd generally have a new tourist every other day. out of those tourists, only one in every ten would eventually become a valued member of the board who didn't act and speak like a retard when compared to the regulars.
the difference between a valued member and a tourist would always come down to how they acted with other members of the board; did they ever actually try to understand and integrate into the boards culture? did they actually read the posts on the board or did they just come to chatter about themselves and topics that only they were into? were they trying to bring another boards culture into our own?

could an older member of the board actually have a coherent and respectful conversation with that new user without wanting to instinctively call them a fucking newfag?
 
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I find most communities reach critical mass when they enter six-figure user counts. We're at 82k. All the complaints from oldfags just reaffirms that the wall is real and we're approaching it. It always comes down to a couple factors that break it, though. Oldfags become so insufferably whiny about newfags, only adding to the deluge of retardation. Newfags notice this and purposefully shit up the place to make the oldfags leave. Things go a lot better when you simply be the kind of person you want to see posting here.
It doesn't help that oldfags try to cling to an idealized version of "the good old days", despite the fact that no community will ever stay in those good old days forever without stagnating into irrelevancy, and eventually dying as the users get older and stop using the site due to real-world circumstances. The world isn't the same as it was back in 2013, it's inevitable that most communities would also be different from how they were back then, especially a community that continues to grow at an exponential rate.
The idea of immersing new users in the community and trying to get them to fit into the site's culture only works as long as old users outnumber the new users. Although this is the case on some parts of the site, there are other parts that are mostly newer users who differ vastly from the oldfags (like the majority far-right Thunderdome, or the majority-female Beauty Parlour). People that only use parts of the Farms are much less likely to adopt the site's posting culture due to being less immersed in it, and may even actively resist doing so if they think that the oldfags who uphold said posting culture are "out to get them".

It doesn't help that KF has a really broad scope in what it covers. As the Farms expanded from being almost entirely focused on Chris-chan to covering more and more varied lolcows, it was inevitable that those new lolcows would bring in new users who didn't really care about the older cows, but were really interested in the new lolcows - most users here only really signed up because there was a specific cow that interested them, or a specific section of the site that drew them in.
As these cows are from vastly different communities, the people they draw in will naturally be vastly different as well. The people joining the farms because of lolcows like Ethan Ralph are going to be completely different than those joining because of Dream or Kevin Gibes. Furry lolcows attract furries to sign up, fandom-related lolcows attract new users who are in those fandoms, lolcows from specific countries often interest people from those countries, that sorta thing. These various groups often come from all sorts of sites, and often bring some amount of their posting culture with them, ranging from treating KF as an extension of their original site and not changing how they post at all, to mostly adopting the Farm's culture but keeping some degree of their original site's culture.
Even in the most 'assimilated' users, those who've been posting here for years and years, you can often tell the difference between one who mostly used 4chan and one who mostly used Tumblr prior to joining KF.
  1. 4chan users, who brought over the humor of that board to here and will never shut the fuck up about the troons. probably the reason why the political sperging reaction was added
To be fair, the users that don't shut up about troons are just as likely to be TERFs from female-dominated sites as they are 4chan users.
 
To be fair, the users that don't shut up about troons are just as likely to be TERFs from female-dominated sites as they are 4chan users.
In defense of the Troon hate, the issue in society has grown and grown to the point that you're either for it or against it. The way it's being pressed into classrooms, legislation, etc. is all very real and gets reactions from every sort of user. It's a hot button topic and a rather important one, not like when it was just Tumblrinas putting pronouns in their bio.
 
It doesn't help that oldfags try to cling to an idealized version of "the good old days", despite the fact that no community will ever stay in those good old days forever without stagnating into irrelevancy, and eventually dying as the users get older and stop using the site due to real-world circumstances. The world isn't the same as it was back in 2013, it's inevitable that most communities would also be different from how they were back then, especially a community that continues to grow at an exponential rate.
The idea of immersing new users in the community and trying to get them to fit into the site's culture only works as long as old users outnumber the new users. Although this is the case on some parts of the site, there are other parts that are mostly newer users who differ vastly from the oldfags (like the majority far-right Thunderdome, or the majority-female Beauty Parlour). People that only use parts of the Farms are much less likely to adopt the site's posting culture due to being less immersed in it, and may even actively resist doing so if they think that the oldfags who uphold said posting culture are "out to get them".

It doesn't help that KF has a really broad scope in what it covers. As the Farms expanded from being almost entirely focused on Chris-chan to covering more and more varied lolcows, it was inevitable that those new lolcows would bring in new users who didn't really care about the older cows, but were really interested in the new lolcows - most users here only really signed up because there was a specific cow that interested them, or a specific section of the site that drew them in.
As these cows are from vastly different communities, the people they draw in will naturally be vastly different as well. The people joining the farms because of lolcows like Ethan Ralph are going to be completely different than those joining because of Dream or Kevin Gibes. Furry lolcows attract furries to sign up, fandom-related lolcows attract new users who are in those fandoms, lolcows from specific countries often interest people from those countries, that sorta thing. These various groups often come from all sorts of sites, and often bring some amount of their posting culture with them, ranging from treating KF as an extension of their original site and not changing how they post at all, to mostly adopting the Farm's culture but keeping some degree of their original site's culture.
Even in the most 'assimilated' users, those who've been posting here for years and years, you can often tell the difference between one who mostly used 4chan and one who mostly used Tumblr prior to joining KF.
For sure.

One thing that's a major driver here is the changing of the internet itself. Some of the most popular figures that were around years back have gone dormant by their own will, settled into a comfortable routine where there isn't that much to discuss anymore (dudes like DSP), or in many cases been forcibly removed from the internet.

Unfortunately a massive contribution to that issue is the rise of Twitter, so now instead of being forced to make videos and whatnot, dudes like Chris just tweet all day (when not in jail of course).
You get entire threads of almost all tweets like Jonah Bex, Zinnia Jones, Moviebob, etc. where once you learn the basics of their life there's not that much more to them. They're people who sit around talking big all day while doing absolutely nothing, just like 99% of Twitter users. Twitter is like crack for narcissists, once they get that first hit everything else in their life falls to the wayside.

Although one major beneficial factor I think is worth mentioning is specifically Josh's involvement. He's always sort of lurking in the background watching most of what goes on, which is nice I think; online there are too many people in charge of things they couldn't give a shit about. He's mentally grounded enough to be reasonable and competent for the most part, but still insane enough to be willing to run an internet forum. That's unusual.

Idk, in my opinion so long as someone doesn't mechanically shit things up, means well, and shows a little respect to the staff that keep things running (yes, they're all definitely weirdos in real life, but that's just how moderators are. You don't have to kiss their asses or act like everything they do is great, but don't go out of your way to screw with them either) it doesn't matter.
It's an internet forum, it's kind of absurd to make it into some big deal that requires years of research just to participate.

In defense of the Troon hate, the issue in society has grown and grown to the point that you're either for it or against it. The way it's being pressed into classrooms, legislation, etc. is all very real and gets reactions from every sort of user. It's a hot button topic and a rather important one, not like when it was just Tumblrinas putting pronouns in their bio.
I get the feeling this is something that depends on the area. Tbh where I'm at I think I've encountered one or two trannies in the last 4 years, it's 100% an internet thing, while there are a lot of people here who seem to have one or two people they personally know who've trooned out.
 
I only joined because my reddit accounts keep getting suspended. Unless I move homes and switch devices, I'm stuck here with you spergs.
 
another “long time lurker” thread that exists essentially for people to bitch about A&H and for no other reason. if you were lurking in 2014 why did you wait so fucking long to register? in 6 years you had nothing to contribute?
 
To be fair this pic triggers annoy 2014 kiwis.
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i guess i fit. i joined in 2017 (lurked a bit before then) for Momokun while she was still against doing porn, full on porn now ofc.
the new zealand thing was funny to me, always ego pumping for kiwis when a government/your mom wants to take mean mean words off the net.
 
You forgot the Post-Merge Era, or as I would prefer to called it, the Mainstream Era. Since that's what this site has become now, and that's why all of the new users have been so shit. Nothing but a bunch of identical copies of your stereotypical Reddit, Discord and Twitter users. In short order it won't matter what era you joined this site in, we'll all be outnumbered by these "people".
> joined late 2019
> smugposting about newfags

:story:
 
The main difference between new users and old users is that new users can't shut the fuck up about politics and "muh troons" and can't stop virtue signalling about those politics to a point where you have people angrily arguing about who's the furthest to the right and who hates "duh troons" the mostest.

Basically the new users are the obsessed politispergs that old users used to laugh at in old community watch threads.
 
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