The Elder Scrolls

[Asian tech support]

What do you mean "fallout is gross"? If you don't mind explaining.

Spoiler: dumb

Fallout under Bethesda (I think) has a veneer of gross fetishism that I don't think I noticed until after FO4. The characters look like mannequins, the vault suits becoming skin tight makes them seem like fetish outfits, the preserved pre war aesthetic feels plastic and sticky, the rest of the setting is filthy with everyone living in absolute squalor and chems being rampant, all the crap Vault-tec was up to seems very sex pest-y, and to top it off, it's my impression that there's a greater concentration of coombrained weirdos in the Fallout fandom than in the TES fandom. It's sort of like how I can't disassociate Sonic from Chris and it will remain forever tainted for me. All of the small crap is just the vibe I get which could easily be ignored but then when put next to gross trannies like sinseer, weirdos on twitter, and the deluge of fetish art, yeah I'm fucking done.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

there's a greater concentration of coombrained weirdos in the Fallout fandom than in the TES fandom

Someone hasn't been to TrueSTL

 

[Epoch]

Someone hasn't been to TrueSTL

TrueSTL is all trannies, so its obviously coombrained, whether that is the majority or minority of the Elder Scrolls fanbase idk.

 

[11 Herbs and Spices]

the vault suits becoming skin tight makes them seem like fetish outfits

The loosest of the Vault Suits were the 3/NV cloth looking ones. They were akin to a mix of modern and historical jumpsuits. The tightest ones were the 1/2 ones. 4 is a mix of the two styles, almost looking leather on the reinforced seams (the outer part of the arms and such).

Bethesda absolutely refuses to make a commentary with their Fallout games so it just looks like a modern diversity checklist LARP in the 1950s as if to say they were never that white or the religious opposition to communism.

The grossest shit about Bethesda Fallout games are the weird fucking bathrooms. They're ever present and it's realistic that most buildings would have one. But then they go and hide a bunch of odd jokes in every fucking bathroom, like skeletons with food in the toilet or teddy bears on the toilet with a paper or drugs thrown about. It's clearly in "writer's barely disguised fetish" territory with how present and consistent it is.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Starfield Picture Without Context

 

[Snekposter]

The loosest of the Vault Suits were the 3/NV cloth looking ones. They were akin to a mix of modern and historical jumpsuits. The tightest ones were the 1/2 ones. 4 is a mix of the two styles, almost looking leather on the reinforced seams (the outer part of the arms and such).

Bethesda absolutely refuses to make a commentary with their Fallout games so it just looks like a modern diversity checklist LARP in the 1950s as if to say they were never that white or the religious opposition to communism.

The grossest shit about Bethesda Fallout games are the weird fucking bathrooms. They're ever present and it's realistic that most buildings would have one. But then they go and hide a bunch of odd jokes in every fucking bathroom, like skeletons with food in the toilet or teddy bears on the toilet with a paper or drugs thrown about. It's clearly in "writer's barely disguised fetish" territory with how present and consistent it is.

Yeah, for those who want to know what they look like:

1/2 on the left, 3/NV in the middle, 4 on the right. Hilariously, according to dialogue from the Vault Dweller his/her suit is made of extruded rubber (totally not a fetish suit, no), whereas the 3/NV suits are workman's denim with leather reinforcement.

 

[11 Herbs and Spices]

Starfield Picture Without Context

I don't fucking get how many fucking jokes and the same jokes no less can be put in the game. It's weird, man.

Oh, I forgot the "plungers in the bathroom stuck to lol random things" jokes.

workman's denim

Yeah, espcially with the technician suits you get in game with them opened along the front zipper like a car mechanic's jumpsuit. It was grounded in a decent way and translated well to the level of fidelity of the game. I still don't know what the material for 4's is even supposed to be. There's a dev comment about wanting to return them to a more futuristic material akin to modern athleticwear but it just looks like Naugahyde to me. Then they also said they tried so hard to not make skin tight look goofy so they changed the textures of it up constantly but it still looks weird to me. I think the design goal of it was to show off the body sliders in game before it was established character creator wasn't in the Vault.

 

[Still Exceptional]

Got back into Skyrim for the first time in years. It's amazing how quickly your disappointment with the state of the game fades once you start modding the everloving shit out of it to your incredibly autistic specifics. To exemplify what I mean I'll provide a few short screen recordings of my main menu.

Vanilla:

Mine:

I've added new companions, new textures, better meshes, bugfixes, new player homes, new quests, new armors and weapons integrated into the levelled lists, shitloads of new mostly lore friendly monsters, new spells, new gameplay mechanics, all kinds of shit. A much better experience.

 

[Epoch]

I've added new companions, new textures, better meshes, bugfixes, new player homes, new quests, new armors and weapons integrated into the levelled lists, shitloads of new mostly lore friendly monsters, new spells, new gameplay mechanics, all kinds of shit. A much better experience.

Hundreds of mods and Skyrim is still just above average at best. I say this as someone with hundreds of mods.

 

[Still Exceptional]

Hundreds of mods and Skyrim is still just above average at best. I say this as someone with hundreds of mods.

It's an okay game made much better by mods. Lets face it, tho, they'll never manage to make an Elder Scrolls game quite like Morrowind ever again. For it's time that game was goddamn amazing, if a little lacking in the visuals department. The sheer depths of the world, the amount of work that was obviously put into it, the attention to detail, it was all amazing.

 

[Harammurabe]

Got back into Skyrim for the first time in years. It's amazing how quickly your disappointment with the state of the game fades once you start modding the everloving shit out of it to your incredibly autistic specifics. To exemplify what I mean I'll provide a few short screen recordings of my main menu.

Vanilla:
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Mine:
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I've added new companions, new textures, better meshes, bugfixes, new player homes, new quests, new armors and weapons integrated into the levelled lists, shitloads of new mostly lore friendly monsters, new spells, new gameplay mechanics, all kinds of shit. A much better experience.

It still feels like too much effort for too little return. What's your mod list?

 

[derpherp2]

Spoiler: dumb

Fallout under Bethesda (I think) has a veneer of gross fetishism that I don't think I noticed until after FO4. The characters look like mannequins, the vault suits becoming skin tight makes them seem like fetish outfits, the preserved pre war aesthetic feels plastic and sticky, the rest of the setting is filthy with everyone living in absolute squalor and chems being rampant, all the crap Vault-tec was up to seems very sex pest-y, and to top it off, it's my impression that there's a greater concentration of coombrained weirdos in the Fallout fandom than in the TES fandom. It's sort of like how I can't disassociate Sonic from Chris and it will remain forever tainted for me. All of the small crap is just the vibe I get which could easily be ignored but then when put next to gross trannies like sinseer, weirdos on twitter, and the deluge of fetish art, yeah I'm fucking done.

Emil has a transhuman/military fetish, you can see it most obviously in Starfield.
Could be todd too tbh. One of the heads.

 

[Rick The Stick]

Spoiler: dumb

Fallout under Bethesda (I think) has a veneer of gross fetishism that I don't think I noticed until after FO4. The characters look like mannequins, the vault suits becoming skin tight makes them seem like fetish outfits, the preserved pre war aesthetic feels plastic and sticky, the rest of the setting is filthy with everyone living in absolute squalor and chems being rampant, all the crap Vault-tec was up to seems very sex pest-y, and to top it off, it's my impression that there's a greater concentration of coombrained weirdos in the Fallout fandom than in the TES fandom. It's sort of like how I can't disassociate Sonic from Chris and it will remain forever tainted for me. All of the small crap is just the vibe I get which could easily be ignored but then when put next to gross trannies like sinseer, weirdos on twitter, and the deluge of fetish art, yeah I'm fucking done.

I dont disagree, but those complaints(as well as many of the others bethesda fallout tends to get) extend to New Begas as well.

Got back into Skyrim for the first time in years. It's amazing how quickly your disappointment with the state of the game fades once you start modding the everloving shit out of it to your incredibly autistic specifics. To exemplify what I mean I'll provide a few short screen recordings of my main menu.

Vanilla:
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Mine:
View attachment 5334768


I've added new companions, new textures, better meshes, bugfixes, new player homes, new quests, new armors and weapons integrated into the levelled lists, shitloads of new mostly lore friendly monsters, new spells, new gameplay mechanics, all kinds of shit. A much better experience.

Really cementing my opinion that hardcore modders just hate the games and actually only like modding them. Which is fittingly retarded because if these games were actually as shit as modders pretend, no one would waste time modding them to begin with.

 

[Knud Lavard]

Not to scratch at the scab of the previous Kirkbride discussion, but

More than two centuries later, autists are still using their own blood to pay tribute to his cool-ass work.
Don't reckon ESO's literal pilfering of references to Lovecraft will have the same effect, but who knows?

 

[Rick The Stick]

Not to scratch at the scab of the previous Kirkbride discussion, but
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More than two centuries later, autists are still using their own blood to pay tribute to his cool-ass work.
Don't reckon ESO's literal pilfering of references to Lovecraft will have the same effect, but who knows?

Sub par artwork of a guy who stole all of his neat ideas from different religions, done in blood. Very gamer. And considering basically every form of esoteric/cosmic horror just poorly copies Lovecraft, probably. I mean people jerk off over how cool Mora is even though he's basically just a Lovecraft God with a different name.

 

[Knud Lavard]

Sub par artwork

Are you referring to the Redditor-made copy (forgot to link before) I posted, or the original by Kirkbride? The copy is quite poor (Nerevar especially reminds me of that botched Jesus fresco that made the rounds some years ago), but I don't see how one could consider the original as bad art.

stole all of his neat ideas from different religions

The difference, to me, lies in the fact that reskinned Hinduism is rare and fresh, while reskinned Lovecraft is tired and trite. Someone could publish a story/movie/game that's just some Sub-Saharan/Siberian/Eskimo people's mythology with the names swapped around, and I'd jump for joy - even if I was intimate with it, and knew what it was stealing from. Overdone stuff, like Lovecraft in 2023, instantly pulls me out of the action as soon as my mind tells me "This is just like X and Y".

I mean people jerk off over how cool Mora is even though he's basically just a Lovecraft God with a different name.

I don't get it either (from a story standpoint, the asses-in-seats standpoint makes sense). They ignored the mostly under-utilized Good Daedra and Four Corners for the story set in literal Dunmer Mecca just so someone with no relation to it, who was center-stage in the last SP content they put out, could hand out dailies. Is Skybaby nostaliga strong enough to carry that?

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

So... I feel a bit "lost" on whether or not to try and do anything with Skyrim at this point. I had started making a new character to try and collect all of the trophies in the game, but part of the way through the escape from Helgen, I realized I wasn't really enthusiastic about playing the game anymore.

There were a few reasons for this; the first being that, back on my old Skyrim save on PS3 - which had a different PS Plus account, so none of that ended up carrying over to PS5 - I had gotten done with literally almost everything, with the exception of the Dragonborn DLC. Now, since I got a PS5, I decided to grab a copy of the Anniversary edition and try to do everything; get all the trophies, get a cool/fun build made, and check out as much of the new stuff that I could. It's just that, since I already went through so much with other characters, I feel burnt out with this game right now. I know the game picks up a bit after you get some progress into the story and unlock some things, but it feels more like work than play rigt now; you guys follow?

Any suggestions for dealing with burn-out? Because I do want to keep going with this game, eventually.

 

[The Hero of Kvatch]

So... I feel a bit "lost" on whether or not to try and do anything with Skyrim at this point. I had started making a new character to try and collect all of the trophies in the game, but part of the way through the escape from Helgen, I realized I wasn't really enthusiastic about playing the game anymore.

There were a few reasons for this; the first being that, back on my old Skyrim save on PS3 - which had a different PS Plus account, so none of that ended up carrying over to PS5 - I had gotten done with literally almost everything, with the exception of the Dragonborn DLC. Now, since I got a PS5, I decided to grab a copy of the Anniversary edition and try to do everything; get all the trophies, get a cool/fun build made, and check out as much of the new stuff that I could. It's just that, since I already went through so much with other characters, I feel burnt out with this game right now. I know the game picks up a bit after you get some progress into the story and unlock some things, but it feels more like work than play rigt now; you guys follow?

Any suggestions for dealing with burn-out? Because I do want to keep going with this game, eventually.

If you weren't going for achievements/trophies, I'd recommend trying out mods. They do freshen up the gameplay quite a bit. It's my preferred way to play Skyrim, albeit I don't make significant changes and I'm not an achievement/trophy hunter.

Although, personally I'm not entirely sure. I'm an autistic retard who can play the same game for 80 years straight without being burnt out, but I do get what you mean.
I'd recommend maybe trying a different build if you haven't already? Although builds don't really have much of an effect in Skyrim as they do with earlier titles.

I'm sure somebody else in the thread will have a better idea than me, I'm just an idiot trying to be helpful.
Skyrim's a good game. While it does have its issues, it's still a solid experience throughout and I still have plenty of good times with it.

Whatever the case, I do hope you eventually find enjoyment in vidya again.

 

[The Ghost of Kviv]

So... I feel a bit "lost" on whether or not to try and do anything with Skyrim at this point. I had started making a new character to try and collect all of the trophies in the game, but part of the way through the escape from Helgen, I realized I wasn't really enthusiastic about playing the game anymore.

There were a few reasons for this; the first being that, back on my old Skyrim save on PS3 - which had a different PS Plus account, so none of that ended up carrying over to PS5 - I had gotten done with literally almost everything, with the exception of the Dragonborn DLC. Now, since I got a PS5, I decided to grab a copy of the Anniversary edition and try to do everything; get all the trophies, get a cool/fun build made, and check out as much of the new stuff that I could. It's just that, since I already went through so much with other characters, I feel burnt out with this game right now. I know the game picks up a bit after you get some progress into the story and unlock some things, but it feels more like work than play rigt now; you guys follow?

Any suggestions for dealing with burn-out? Because I do want to keep going with this game, eventually.

From what I understand since you're on PS5, you're all out of luck since you cannot use mods as @The Hero of Kvatch recommends. What I can add is go ahead and grab the GOG version from somewhere, and have fun with mods.

The best version you can use is the Steam version, as a lot of mods only work on 1.5.97, especially if you're into combat mods. If you're into buying the Steam version, you can check out mod lists using wabbajack. Things can get really crazy, if you want an extreme example check out

https://www.nolvus.net/

 

[The Hero of Kvatch]

From what I understand since you're on PS5, you're all out of luck since you cannot use mods as The Hero of Kvatch recommends. What I can add is go ahead and grab the GOG version from somewhere, and have fun with mods.

The PS4 version of Skyrim has mods, albeit limited compared to Xbox One/PC, since Sony are pussies and want to limit content deemed "inappropriate". All PS mods have to be made using vanilla Skyrim assets, compared to Xbox/PC using whatever the fuck they want.

Anyways, you could probably boot up PS4 Skyrim on a PS5, and get mods that way.

But as @The Ghost of Kviv says, you'd be better off going for Skyrim on a PC.
If you're going for achievements, I'd imagine there's a PC mod that allows for achievements to be earned in a modded playthrough. Not to mention the sheer fucking amount of PC mods.

Just steer clear of the sex mods. Unless that's your thing.
In which case, kys