The Elder Scrolls

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I mean... no? Even in Morrowind Caius Cosades was saying how the Empire was fucked.
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Wulf too, aka Talos in disguise.
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And pray tell, what would have happened if the Oblivion Crisis didn't come to pass?

Oh, that's right, the Empire would have been able to deal with the likes of the Thalmor and the Argonian/Dunmer war with its unified strength.

Also, Tiber Septim saying that the Empire is falling apart is rich, considering that it was his actions that left the Altmer with a bad taste in their mouth about the Empire. If it wasn't for him forcibly conquering the Altmer into the Empire (and maybe just making peace with them or securing their allegiance through a marriage alliance) then maybe, just maybe, the Thalmor wouldn't be so butthurt about him to the point they would ban worship of him and plot against the Empire. But one can reason away his prediction by saying that he foresaw the Oblivion Crisis, since it was being built up over several games, with the Daedra constantly plotting against the Empire. You'd have to be fucking dense to not figure out what the Daedra were up to, with all the games from ES1 onwards having hints of Daedric involvement.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

The Empire was at the height of power in Elder Scrolls: Oblivion.

Tell me you didn't pay any attention to the background story without telling me you didn't pay attention to the background story.

The Empire was at the height of power under Tiber Septim. Almost every following ruler was mediocre to shit with few exceptions (one of the Pelagius' I believe)

While Uriel was a great leader, Jagar Tharn pretty much ruined everything with his 10 years posing as Emperor. Uriel managed to "unite" the Empire through the Warp in the West and other events, but the idea they were at the height of power is absurd. While "united" there were still plenty of tensions, and things would have likely kicked off worse once he died since all his legitimate heirs were looked upon with suspicion, not respected and seemingly didn't give a fuck about the Empire as they never married or produced heirs well into their middle age. So yeah, if Oblivion never happened, shit would have went down still since Martin wouldn't have been in the seat of power.

Stick with Star Wars kid, you obviously need to be spoonfed.

Edit:

This is a page from the Daggerfall Manual, to put it into even more perspective.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

Anyone intimately familiar with Daggerfall? I've finally unlocked the enchanting Magic Items maker and the "Bad rep with all" effect seems to good to be true.

I can enhance all five magic skills I actually care about and the only downside is bad reputation on an item I can simply unequip? Does the bad rep always apply while the item is in my inventory or does it go away when I unequip it? Because the former would make a lot more sense.

Sorry to derail, I just wanted to be sure before I dropped 45k on this thing.

 

[Red Hood]

I don't care all that much about the gameplay in TES, I just like picking up the books and talking to people and learning about the world.

 

[Neo-Holstien]

Anyone intimately familiar with Daggerfall? I've finally unlocked the enchanting Magic Items maker and the "Bad rep with all" effect seems to good to be true.

I can enhance all five magic skills I actually care about and the only downside is bad reputation on an item I can simply unequip? Does the bad rep always apply while the item is in my inventory or does it go away when I unequip it? Because the former would make a lot more sense.

Sorry to derail, I just wanted to be sure before I dropped 45k on this thing.

you play with magic beyond my understanding (I mostly play spell swords and jack of trade type builds)

 

[Plant Aqua Mammal]

Daggerfall is an old game. Bad Rep only applies while the item is equipped, so go for it.

Anyone intimately familiar with Daggerfall? I've finally unlocked the enchanting Magic Items maker and the "Bad rep with all" effect seems to good to be true.

I can enhance all five magic skills I actually care about and the only downside is bad reputation on an item I can simply unequip? Does the bad rep always apply while the item is in my inventory or does it go away when I unequip it? Because the former would make a lot more sense.

Sorry to derail, I just wanted to be sure before I dropped 45k on this thing.

Yes, you can do what you want there. Daggerfall is an old game and the idea of having items have effects just from being in your inventory isn't a thing beyond the wagon and horse unlocking transport options. Enchant "Bad Rep with all" and just unequip it to lose the debuff.

Another fun thing is to enchant a gem with Repairs Objects and leave it equipped, and then never have to repair your daedric equipment and stat-boosting-while-equipped magic items ever again. At least thats how it works in Daggerfall Unity (might be a setting in there you can toggle).

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Apparently Bethesda released more info on additional DLC being added by Anniversary Edition

- You can buy, build and manage your own farmstead. You can hire a steward to run it as well as buy/build windmills, animals, etc. etc.
- Bow of Shadows. Nocturnal Daedric Artifact. I guess it gives a speed boost and invisibility.
- 15 spiked knuckle gauntlets to make unarmed more viable I assume.
- Bittercup Daedric Quest, apparently involves the "gladiator" that was seen in the AE trailer.
- Headsmans Cleaver, I guess a weapon from ES Blades
- Vampire player home
- Goldbrand Katana
- "The Warriors Contest" quest which features that big assed Frostbite Spider shown in the trailer. Apparently this spider is also reused content from Blades. Reward are some ice sword and gauntlets from Morrowind.
- Necromancer robe and 13 new spells.
- Dwemer player home that give access to build automatons.
- 7 new staffs
- Redguard quest featuring new Redguard weapon/armor set
- Gallows Hall, an undead fort featuring bloodworm helmet and staff of worms.
- 8 additional alternative armors, apparently all featured in Elder Scrolls Blades.
- Mythic Dawn Quest featuring new Daedric horse and weapons. Ayleid Ruins featured in quest will be added to creation kit for free.
- Ghosts of Tribunal quest featured in the trailer.

Lots of Elder Scrolls Blades content. Aren't there already a lot of Blades armors in the CC?

 

[Super Hans]

- Bittercup Daedric Quest, apparently involves the "gladiator" that was seen in the AE trailer.

How the hell is that going to work now that attributes don't exist? Add and subtract a preposterous amount of health, magicka, or stamina? Just affecting two skills isn't going to match up how powerful an artifact it was in Morrowind.

 

[Neo-Holstien]

- You can buy, build and manage your own farmstead. You can hire a steward to run it as well as buy/build windmills, animals, etc. etc

hearthfire was released in 2012

Apparently Bethesda released more info on additional DLC being added by Anniversary Edition

- You can buy, build and manage your own farmstead. You can hire a steward to run it as well as buy/build windmills, animals, etc. etc.
- Bow of Shadows. Nocturnal Daedric Artifact. I guess it gives a speed boost and invisibility.
- 15 spiked knuckle gauntlets to make unarmed more viable I assume.
- Bittercup Daedric Quest, apparently involves the "gladiator" that was seen in the AE trailer.
- Headsmans Cleaver, I guess a weapon from ES Blades
- Vampire player home
- Goldbrand Katana
- "The Warriors Contest" quest which features that big assed Frostbite Spider shown in the trailer. Apparently this spider is also reused content from Blades. Reward are some ice sword and gauntlets from Morrowind.
- Necromancer robe and 13 new spells.
- Dwemer player home that give access to build automatons.
- 7 new staffs
- Redguard quest featuring new Redguard weapon/armor set
- Gallows Hall, an undead fort featuring bloodworm helmet and staff of worms.
- 8 additional alternative armors, apparently all featured in Elder Scrolls Blades.
- Mythic Dawn Quest featuring new Daedric horse and weapons. Ayleid Ruins featured in quest will be added to creation kit for free.
- Ghosts of Tribunal quest featured in the trailer.

Lots of Elder Scrolls Blades content. Aren't there already a lot of Blades armors in the CC?

 

[asr]

Alessia was Nedic, and the race was wiped out, minus one individual. If anybody had the right to the throne, it was Miraak. But the argument is void, because covenant with Akatosh was ended by Martin and his destroying of the Amulet of Kings.

I mean... no? Even in Morrowind Caius Cosades was saying how the Empire was fucked.
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Wulf too, aka Talos in disguise.
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Yeah, sadly I think the empire is long over due a full collapse, but that being said if another Reman or Talos like figure came about it could be plausible to revitalize the empire, I think the altmer (filthy mer that they are) are waiting for their next attempt to fuck with humans, the white gold concordat was nothing but a half time break after all. Thing is though, Talos needed numidium to put the the long ears in their place, I don't there's anything other than the eye of Magnus, or the LDB riding up with an army of dragons doing the Dov equivalent of drive by shootings that can put them in check, anything Bethesda will it of course.

 

[asr]

And pray tell, what would have happened if the Oblivion Crisis didn't come to pass?

Oh, that's right, the Empire would have been able to deal with the likes of the Thalmor and the Argonian/Dunmer war with its unified strength.

Also, Tiber Septim saying that the Empire is falling apart is rich, considering that it was his actions that left the Altmer with a bad taste in their mouth about the Empire. If it wasn't for him forcibly conquering the Altmer into the Empire (and maybe just making peace with them or securing their allegiance through a marriage alliance) then maybe, just maybe, the Thalmor wouldn't be so butthurt about him to the point they would ban worship of him and plot against the Empire. But one can reason away his prediction by saying that he foresaw the Oblivion Crisis, since it was being built up over several games, with the Daedra constantly plotting against the Empire. You'd have to be fucking dense to not figure out what the Daedra were up to, with all the games from ES1 onwards having hints of Daedric involvement.

The empire was already in decline to begin with like someone else mentioned prior, but don't also forget that he empire was already in a Cold War with the altmer for ages already. The war between them was going to happen either way, and the empire even during oblivion didn't have have something like the numidium, which was the only way Talos or whichever of the 3 that was supposed to make him up was the emperor. The one benefit that humans have that they breed faster and thus can replenish a force quicker than mer, plus their eugenic practices of post birth abortions of babies doesn't help either. Unless there's something on the scale of "fuck you Reality" or "fuck you I have divine backing" or both (as much as it pains me to say this) The human races don't have a good shot at wiping out the altmer, hell their victory might even be another parallel to Auriel "winning" against Lorkhan in a narrative driven way but idk what's going on the in minds of Bethesda.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, Altmer were but hurt because he basically nuked them, and marriage would be spitting in their faces after the fact given that they love eugenics so much that they do post birth abortions (murder) on those offspring they deem not fitting, they also despise humans for their ancestor spirts part in fighting with Lorkhan, and speaking of him, they hate him so much that the altmer equivalent of the CIA who runs everything in the back (dominion) have stated prior about how they want to return to being divine, to unmake existence, to unmake the potential for humans to even exist.

 

[Snekposter]

EDIT: Forgot to mention, Altmer were but hurt because he basically nuked them, and marriage would be spitting in their faces after the fact given that they love eugenics so much that they do post birth abortions (murder) on those offspring they deem not fitting, they also despise humans for their ancestor spirts part in fighting with Lorkhan, and speaking of him, they hate him so much that the altmer equivalent of the CIA who runs everything in the back (dominion) have stated prior about how they want to return to being divine, to unmake existence, to unmake the potential for humans to even exist.

In the beginning, reality was created. The Altmer have considered this a very bad move, and has made a great many of them unhappy.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

hearthfire was released in 2012

Apparently there's some distinction between "homestead" and "farmstead" now that it is available in Whiterun, I guess.

Also the new spells associated with the necromancer robes basically boil down to skeleton summons, but now they wear armor and use specific weapons which I also thought was already a thing but maybe not? I never play a necromancer so I'm not sure but the way I understand it is that most of the spells are "skeleton with a bow, skeleton with an axe, skeleton wearing iron armor", etc. etc.

 

[armoreddinnerjacket]

Apparently Bethesda released more info on additional DLC being added by Anniversary Edition

- You can buy, build and manage your own farmstead. You can hire a steward to run it as well as buy/build windmills, animals, etc. etc.
- Bow of Shadows. Nocturnal Daedric Artifact. I guess it gives a speed boost and invisibility.
- 15 spiked knuckle gauntlets to make unarmed more viable I assume.
- Bittercup Daedric Quest, apparently involves the "gladiator" that was seen in the AE trailer.
- Headsmans Cleaver, I guess a weapon from ES Blades
- Vampire player home
- Goldbrand Katana
- "The Warriors Contest" quest which features that big assed Frostbite Spider shown in the trailer. Apparently this spider is also reused content from Blades. Reward are some ice sword and gauntlets from Morrowind.
- Necromancer robe and 13 new spells.
- Dwemer player home that give access to build automatons.
- 7 new staffs
- Redguard quest featuring new Redguard weapon/armor set
- Gallows Hall, an undead fort featuring bloodworm helmet and staff of worms.
- 8 additional alternative armors, apparently all featured in Elder Scrolls Blades.
- Mythic Dawn Quest featuring new Daedric horse and weapons. Ayleid Ruins featured in quest will be added to creation kit for free.
- Ghosts of Tribunal quest featured in the trailer.

Lots of Elder Scrolls Blades content. Aren't there already a lot of Blades armors in the CC?

I'm not against adding new stuff, but this isn't anything I couldn't get modded before. It simply isn't worth breaking SKSE and all of our modding tools in order to do it.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

I'm not against adding new stuff, but this isn't anything I couldn't get modded before. It simply isn't worth breaking SKSE and all of our modding tools in order to do it.

If I had to guess, Bethesda is trying to push Creation Club onto console players and this is their last ditch move to get it to "stick". That's why most of this shit is stuff that are just easy Blades content (asset?) flips and shit that has already been made for free through modders. But the vast vast VAST majority of Skyrim console players don't even mod I think, and a lot of modders don't put their shit up on Bethesdas site for console players so they probably don't know that.

As far as they are concerned with SKSE users, they can just back up their shit and not update. Honestly, hasn't there been absolutely no reason for SKSE people to update the game since 2018? All of the updates have only been in service to the Creation Club I thought.

Edit: Wes Johnson and other voice actors for Skyrim are doing some sort of interview on twitch pretty soon for Skyrims Anniversary. I don't know if it's just Wes or the whole event but they're also raising funds for Alzheimers Association I guess.

It's supposed to be on Bethesdas twitch account in the next couple minutes

Bethesda - Twitch

Welcome to the official Bethesda Twitch channel! Tune in for all things Elder Scrolls, Fallout, DOOM, DEATHLOOP, Dishonored, Ghostwire: Tokyo, Prey, Wolfenstein and more.

www.twitch.tv

2nd Edit: MSRP for Anniversary Edition will be $49.99, if you already own Special Edition the upgrade will be $19.99. Next Gen upgrade for PS5/XSX will be free for Special Edition, is not linked to Anniversary Edition upgrade.

Reminder that they bumped the price of Special Edition when they announced Anniversary Edition in order to justify the $49.99 stand alone price point.

 

[Professor G. Raff]

Ten Years. Ten. Fucking. Years. I just want a new Elder Scrolls game, Todd! Fuck you and your Skyrim re-releases.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Sorry for the double post, but apparently Bethesda gave the SKSE developer(s?) early access to Anniversary Edition in order to try and get SKSE back up and running ASAP.

 

[PuffyGroundCloud]

2nd Edit: MSRP for Anniversary Edition will be $49.99, if you already own Special Edition the upgrade will be $19.99. Next Gen upgrade for PS5/XSX will be free for Special Edition, is not linked to Anniversary Edition upgrade.

Reminder that they bumped the price of Special Edition when they announced Anniversary Edition in order to justify the $49.99 stand alone price point.

time to pirate in minecraft

 

[asr]

In the beginning, reality was created. The Altmer have considered this a very bad move, and has made a great many of them unhappy.

Ten Years. Ten. Fucking. Years. I just want a new Elder Scrolls game, Todd! Fuck you and your Skyrim re-releases.

with how they've been acting in recent years I'm sure they would have fucked it up. The engine is long overdue getting the old yeller treatment. Half of the entertainment it gave was all the bugs that made it endearing, but as time as progresses and they keep pushing that poor old thing and the bugs get no longer endearing but angering.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

with how they've been acting in recent years I'm sure they would have fucked it up. The engine is long overdue getting the old yeller treatment. Half of the entertainment it gave was all the bugs that made it endearing, but as time as progresses and they keep pushing that poor old thing and the bugs get no longer endearing but angering.

Isn't this completely normal in game development? Unreal Engine 1-5, Frostbite 1-4, etc. etc. aren't literally all built from the ground up, are they?

I'm pretty sure the bugs and shit would be 10x worse if Bethesda did a completely new engine from the ground up at this point.