The Elder Scrolls

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Very much true; though to be fair, Reddit in general is where civility, as well as basic common sense and human decency, all go to die.

Reddit is a hive of SJWism though. You specifically asked for which would piss off SJW's more.

 

[Walther Springfield]

Reddit is a hive of SJWism though. You specifically asked for which would piss off SJW's more.

I know; I was just bringing that point up just because. Seriously, fuck Reddit.

Also, thanks for the point about the Stormcloaks; looks like I'll be joining the "supposedly Nazis despite allowing the Dark Elves and Argonians quarter in Windhelm" Nords on my next run!

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Also, thanks for the point about the Stormcloaks; looks like I'll be joining the "supposedly Nazis despite allowing the Dark Elves and Argonians quarter in Windhelm" Nords on my next run!

I personally find both sides to be shit overall, but if you actually pay attention the Stormcloaks are far less offputting than the Empire.

Like, I just assume most redditors must not pay attention, especially during Diplomatic Immunity, to not realize how fucking corrupted and beyond repair the Empire is. Victoria Vicci flat out says that The Emperor is fine with her doing business with Thalmor as long as he gets a cut, Elisif sitting there just like "OMG I love the Thalmor and their parties!", then you have Erikur and Siddgeir going on and on about how the Thalmor are a-okay as long as they keep getting their money, all the while Ondolemar is sitting right next to them all telling anyone that will listen that the Thalmor are planning to wipe the Empire out as soon as they are no longer useful. That's not even getting how they're completely fine letting the Black Briars control Riften.

The worst of the Stormcloaks seem to be that they don't give Dark Elves free mansions, don't allow the Argonians in Windhelm (even though none of the Imperial aligned cities allow Khajit inside) and if you *really* want to stretch it, some of the Jarls are just a little too taken in with Ulfric and kind of dumb. The most offputting part of the Stormcloaks isn't their cause, but Ulfric himself really. Where as with the Empire it's much more the entire Empire than Tullius.

 

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

Is it too much to ask for someone to make a mod where you can go to the Summerset Isles and Final Solution those pointed ear fucks? Imagine going full Daenerys on Alinor and leaving it a field of molten glass.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Is it took much to ask for someone to make a mod where you can go to the Summerset Isles and Final Solution those pointed ear fucks?

Yes

IIRC Beyond Skyrim has some sort of stranglehold on "province" mods. I think some guy made a Valenwood mod that they had taken down on bullshit grounds

 

[Walther Springfield]

Yes

IIRC Beyond Skyrim has some sort of stranglehold on "province" mods. I think some guy made a Valenwood mod that they had taken down on bullshit grounds

That news to me; why? Is the creator of Beyond Skyrim that petty that they won't let anyone else make their own mods?

 

[Super Hans]

That news to me; why? Is the creator of Beyond Skyrim that petty that they won't let anyone else make their own mods?

The team is bad enough to get their own thread. But to sum it up, the team is filled top to bottom with troons who think copyright law applies to mods.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/beyond-skyrim-community.84795/

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

That news to me; why? Is the creator of Beyond Skyrim that petty that they won't let anyone else make their own mods?

Apparently they used a model or something that they claimed was theirs (it was literally like a chair or barrel IIRC). He removed it, but then they still bitched to Nexus and Nexus kept taking it down.

They pretty much do think they have a monopoly on province mods. I'm pretty sure Moonpath to Elsweyr gets a pass because it predated the Beyond Skyrim project though, Falskar gets a pass because it's original and Rigmor of Bruma got a pass because they "worked" with the Beyond Skyrim team.

Much like Arthmoor they have way too much pull over the Nexus for some reason.

 

[Walther Springfield]

Apparently they used a model or something that they claimed was theirs (it was literally like a chair or barrel IIRC). He removed it, but then they still bitched to Nexus and Nexus kept taking it down.

They pretty much do think they have a monopoly on province mods. I'm pretty sure Moonpath to Elsweyr gets a pass because it predated the Beyond Skyrim project though, Falskar gets a pass because it's original and Rigmor of Bruma got a pass because they "worked" with the Beyond Skyrim team.

Much like Arthmoor they have way too much pull over the Nexus for some reason.

Huh. So, a bunch of Reddit powermod-wannabes think they're gods because they made some mods, and refuse to let other people create anything because of reasons.

Somehow, I'm not surprised Nexus would allow something like this.

 

[Mega Black]

I mean, if you go to any subreddit dedicated to Elder Scrolls you'll clearly see a majority of people get assblasted at anyone saying anything pro Stormcloak.

There's a certain subset of retards on the internet who can't see racism as anything other than the most evil concept ever created, even when the racism on display is far from extreme and the Stormcloaks are dealt a very even hand as to why they might feel the way they do. They see white people being racist and suddenly all that middle-school conditioning kicks in and they piss and shit themselves all over.

Someone else said it earlier in the thread. Fantastical racism is cool when it's elves and lizards kicking each other in the shins, but people go full sperg when it's fantasy white people doing the racism.

I personally find both sides to be shit overall, but if you actually pay attention the Stormcloaks are far less offputting than the Empire.

It's a choice between corrupt globohomo or CHUD rhetoric. I agree, though, The Stormcloaks are, at worst, a bit self-centered with a retard in charge, but their grievances are mostly legitimate. The Empire has become a pale imitations of its former glory, a paper tiger filled with mold that has systematically stamped out the culture of all the civilizations under its heel in favor of serving a grander whole, the grander whole being Cyrodiil while everyone else gets scraps.

The only good thing The Empire does have is that they don't allow overt slavery under their doctrine, but they only selectively enforce it. Plenty of those poor little dark elves that Reddit feels so bad for LOVED them some Argonian sex slaves. The only reason you could really justify siding with The Empire is because you feel that the inevitable second great war will go better for mankind with a united Empire standing in opposition to The Thalmor, but I'd argue that The Thalmor have already infested the entire thing with spies and dissidents, probably not going to be able to put up a halfway decent fight with all the enemies on the inside.

Huh. So, a bunch of Reddit powermod-wannabes think they're gods because they made some mods, and refuse to let other people create anything because of reasons.

Somehow, I'm not surprised Nexus would allow something like this.

If you're surprised you don't know Nexus. Living proof that monopolies in any regard are a bad idea, they're always pulling shit like this.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

The only reason you could really justify siding with The Empire is because you feel that the inevitable second great war will go better for mankind with a united Empire standing in opposition to The Thalmor, but I'd argue that The Thalmor have already infested the entire thing with spies and dissidents, probably not going to be able to put up a halfway decent fight with all the enemies on the inside.

I disagree. Even if The Empire wins the Skyrim Civil War, the Empire will never be united under the Medes.

Morrowind is still recovering from the eruption of Red Mountain, and by all accounts the Dunmer absolutely despise the Empire and only remain because they have no real means to break free.

High Rock remains with the Empire, but has historically always been a fractured state internally and there is nothing that would point to this having changed. This isn't even getting into them ignoring Tullius request for assistance in the Skyrim Civil War.

Hammerfell and Black Marsh have left the Empire, Elsweyr and Valenwood have joined the Aldmeri Dominion.

And the Imperial Loyalists within Skyrim will have been exhausted in the great war, and the Stormcloak Loyalists that remain will not suddenly take up arms for the Empire.

Honestly, the only real justification for joining the Empire in my mind is simply a blind loyalty to them or Balgruff for making you a Thane.

In a perfect world people would realize that both sides suck and just let the ceasefire remain from Season Unending. There was a far better chance of combating the Dominion with an alliance of free nations than there was by partaking in Civil War to maintain a dying Empire. The problem is that both Ulfric and Titus II are too power hungry to ever concede to this.

 

[Walther Springfield]

There's a certain subset of retards on the internet who can't see racism as anything other than the most evil concept ever created, even when the racism on display is far from extreme and the Stormcloaks are dealt a very even hand as to why they might feel the way they do. They see white people being racist and suddenly all that middle-school conditioning kicks in and they piss and shit themselves all over.

Someone else said it earlier in the thread. Fantastical racism is cool when it's elves and lizards kicking each other in the shins, but people go full sperg when it's fantasy white people doing the racism.

It's a choice between corrupt globohomo or CHUD rhetoric. I agree, though, The Stormcloaks are, at worst, a bit self-centered with a retard in charge, but their grievances are mostly legitimate. The Empire has become a pale imitations of its former glory, a paper tiger filled with mold that has systematically stamped out the culture of all the civilizations under its heel in favor of serving a grander whole, the grander whole being Cyrodiil while everyone else gets scraps.

The only good thing The Empire does have is that they don't allow overt slavery under their doctrine, but they only selectively enforce it. Plenty of those poor little dark elves that Reddit feels so bad for LOVED them some Argonian sex slaves. The only reason you could really justify siding with The Empire is because you feel that the inevitable second great war will go better for mankind with a united Empire standing in opposition to The Thalmor, but I'd argue that The Thalmor have already infested the entire thing with spies and dissidents, probably not going to be able to put up a halfway decent fight with all the enemies on the inside.

If you're surprised you don't know Nexus. Living proof that monopolies in any regard are a bad idea, they're always pulling shit like this.

Yeah, I haven't been keeping up with Nexus at all, really; all I ever did with the site was grab a few mods years back, never really looked beneath the covers.

I do admit; I have gotten into some conversations with my friends about whether or not the Empire or Stormcloaks would stand a better shot at fighting the Thalmor; both of them supported the Empire with the justifications of "a united Empire stands a better chance", "the Stormcloaks have less overall manpower", "the loss of Tullius would do more harm than good", and "they like Balgruuf a bit too much".

 

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

Yeah, I haven't been keeping up with Nexus at all, really; all I ever did with the site was grab a few mods years back, never really looked beneath the covers.

I do admit; I have gotten into some conversations with my friends about whether or not the Empire or Stormcloaks would stand a better shot at fighting the Thalmor; both of them supported the Empire with the justifications of "a united Empire stands a better chance", "the Stormcloaks have less overall manpower", "the loss of Tullius would do more harm than good", and "they like Balgruuf a bit too much".

Your friends are right. The Thalmor could easily control a very rural country filled with citizens that hate them for repressing their religion and know the country like the back of their hand. Look at how well the US military was able to control Vietnam and Afghanistan! Oh, wait...

 

[Walther Springfield]

Your friends are right. The Thalmor could easily control a very rural country filled with citizens that hate them for repressing their religion and know the country like the back of their hand. Look at how well the US military was able to control Vietnam and Afghanistan! Oh, wait...

Yeah, reality has proven that sometimes, the smaller and less-equipped factions are the ones that win in the end.

Real talk, though; it gets exhausting how the ES fanbase tends to completely ignore/demonize one half of the entire Civil War simply because of "muh wacism"; if anything, it shows how those are unable to separate fiction from reality.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Your friends are right. The Thalmor could easily control a very rural country filled with citizens that hate them for repressing their religion and know the country like the back of their hand. Look at how well the US military was able to control Vietnam and Afghanistan! Oh, wait...

"They didn't pay attention to anything they said about Hammerfell at all." is what I think whenever someone says the Stormcloaks don't have enough strength to hold back the Dominion, or that a "united Empire" is stronger.

It's like they didn't even pay enough attention to realize that the Empire needed to recruit local nords almost exclusively because Titus wasn't willing to let go of anyone in Cyrodiil.

And that's not even getting into the illogical idea that the Empire needs to continue to "grow their strength" when they supposedly decimated the Thalmor army at the Imperial City. Elves take longer to repopulate than men, I'm pretty sure.

 

[Neo-Holstien]

Some food for thoughts on the great war/civil war;

1st High Rock and Skyrim would be very hard to invade, their geography and placement make them inconvenient targets for the Aldmeri Dominion, The Aldmeri Dominion seemed to do very well in fields and jungle, but would not have the alpine training for invading those provinces, Skyrim would only be accessible via either the Sea of Ghost or a number of mountain passes and High Rock is the most fortified province in the empire, they be able to hold Daggerfall, Anticlere, or Waywest, but the hilly interior with their liberally place strongholds and fortresses would be a costly nut to crack, the Thalmor may have ambitions in Skyrim and High Rock, but selling that to the Merific public would be difficult to say the least.

2nd Altmer Armies employ goblins as frontline cannon fodder and shock infantry, but these regiments are heavily reliant on Altmer officers that have expertise in handling the little mongrels', Khajiit and Bosmer tend to make for poor field soldiers and would be undermotivated even beyond their natural disposition due to thalmor political police interfering in their affairs. Skyrim would probably do better to engage in guerilla tactics in the western holds with their more flat temperate climates( Holding Markarth would actually just be a waste of men), while holding the elves up in the Pale and Mountains separating the Old Holds (funnily enough the Old Holds are the Holds that sided with Ulfric). The Dominion forces would have to either land in Morthal/Solitude or march up through Falkreath. Both routes make winter reinforcements impossible and are quite dangerous, Windhelms coast would be unreachable via the west and would have to be approached from the East, Morrowind, although I do not know if Morrowind (who many people in this thread seem to forget are not part of the Empire, right now it is just Cyrodiil, High Rock, and Skyrim) would give them port access meaning they would not even attempt it if not as Senchal Elsweyr would be the closest port, literally on the exact opposite side of the continent. (cut there for sake of brevity)

3rd The imperial Holds seem unenthusiastic about the (civil) war, Solitude included, with it being the norm that only the legionaries actually fight beyond their borders or in the field, comparing the various Holds Markarth is more interested in dealing with the uppity Bretons of the Reach the fighting the war with locals actually hold pro-Ulfric sympathies, Morthal/WinterHold (Much more Winterhold) is broke and lacking in both men and motivation, with both really just being part of the spheres of the leading Holds (Winterhold has literally nothing in it, and Morthal's occupied mine is owned by a Solitude Thane), Falkreath/Riften are uninterested in the war in general and just send enough to be at the table when the treaty is signed, Dawnstar/Windhelm have leadership that have completely desolated their holds with the amount of man power and gold poured into the war, they are the only mobilized holds, Solitude is actually a strange case, with Captain Advar training men, and them fighting on the front, but it seems Tulias is undermining Firebeard causing some tension and the hold largely just seems to be the central place the empire organizes their forces from, Whiterun will join the war and will largely spend its time in the war either rebuilding under Greymane or half assing it like Riften and Falkreath, given the circumstances, the stand still makes sense, though eventually moral issues for the imperials or exhaustion on the other side will bring the war to an end by 206 4E.

I am working on a script for a Skyrim video right now and it is already 20 pages long and I have barely scratched the surface.

 

[Shidoen]

Some food for thoughts on the great war/civil war;

1st High Rock and Skyrim would be very hard to invade, their geography and placement make them inconvenient targets for the Aldmeri Dominion, The Aldmeri Dominion seemed to do very well in fields and jungle, but would not have the alpine training for invading those provinces, Skyrim would only be accessible via either the Sea of Ghost or a number of mountain passes and High Rock is the most fortified province in the empire, they be able to hold Daggerfall, Anticlere, or Waywest, but the hilly interior with their liberally place strongholds and fortresses would be a costly nut to crack, the Thalmor may have ambitions in Skyrim and High Rock, but selling that to the Merific public would be difficult to say the least.

2nd Altmer Armies employ goblins as frontline cannon fodder and shock infantry, but these regiments are heavily reliant on Altmer officers that have expertise in handling the little mongrels', Khajiit and Bosmer tend to make for poor field soldiers and would be undermotivated even beyond their natural disposition due to thalmor political police interfering in their affairs. Skyrim would probably do better to engage in guerilla tactics in the western holds with their more flat temperate climates( Holding Markarth would actually just be a waste of men), while holding the elves up in the Pale and Mountains separating the Old Holds (funnily enough the Old Holds are the Holds that sided with Ulfric). The Dominion forces would have to either land in Morthal/Solitude or march up through Falkreath. Both routes make winter reinforcements impossible and are quite dangerous, Windhelms coast would be unreachable via the west and would have to be approached from the East, Morrowind, although I do not know if Morrowind (who many people in this thread seem to forget are not part of the Empire, right now it is just Cyrodiil, High Rock, and Skyrim) would give them port access meaning they would not even attempt it if not as Senchal Elsweyr would be the closest port, literally on the exact opposite side of the continent. (cut there for sake of brevity)

3rd The imperial Holds seem unenthusiastic about the (civil) war, Solitude included, with it being the norm that only the legionaries actually fight beyond their borders or in the field, comparing the various Holds Markarth is more interested in dealing with the uppity Bretons of the Reach the fighting the war with locals actually hold pro-Ulfric sympathies, Morthal/WinterHold (Much more Winterhold) is broke and lacking in both men and motivation, with both really just being part of the spheres of the leading Holds (Winterhold has literally nothing in it, and Morthal's occupied mine is owned by a Solitude Thane), Falkreath/Riften are uninterested in the war in general and just send enough to be at the table when the treaty is signed, Dawnstar/Windhelm have leadership that have completely desolated their holds with the amount of man power and gold poured into the war, they are the only mobilized holds, Solitude is actually a strange case, with Captain Advar training men, and them fighting on the front, but it seems Tulias is undermining Firebeard causing some tension and the hold largely just seems to be the central place the empire organizes their forces from, Whiterun will join the war and will largely spend its time in the war either rebuilding under Greymane or half assing it like Riften and Falkreath, given the circumstances, the stand still makes sense, though eventually moral issues for the imperials or exhaustion on the other side will bring the war to an end by 206 4E.

I am working on a script for a Skyrim video right now and it is already 20 pages long and I have barely scratched the surface.

Can I be added saying “Bretons are the obvious master race”.

 

[MerriedxReldnahc]

Absolutly appaled that Elder Scrolls Blades has the audacity to provide delicious, mouthwatering, pies in this goblin-filled dungeon and then flat out deny you the privilege of eating them if you are at full health. Let me eat pie, you fucks
0/10 literally unplayable



(This is easily the least worst thing about the game, but it isn't terrible for casual gaming before bed. )

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Anyone hear or care about this? Supposed to be coming from the devs of Daggerfall.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Anyone hear or care about this? Supposed to be coming from the devs of Daggerfall.

If this turns out to be another Underworld Ascendant shitshow someone is going to pay.




Because it won't be me, I'll pirate it first.