The Elder Scrolls

[Hooked on phobics]

If it's such a small meaningless detail why are you making such a big fucking deal out of it? Two can play that game.

I have, and I believe most do, have the mindset of if it aint broke dont fix it, or if you change it, have a reason.

For changing it back, theres many reasons, from accurate to the old game, to being biologically accurate, to not wanting tranny BS, ect.

For making it body type 1 and 2, I've seen reasons of stopping tranny terrorism (someone seriously thinks that lol) HR ladies holding more power than CEOs, and the most believable, ESG credit reasons.

And looking at those we can see who has the better reasoning.

And I'm pretty fucking sure it aint the ones pushing for body type 1 and 2

Nature is starting to heal though. I find it hard to believe it was an actual plan and it's just lemmings following a retard off a cliff because no one was brave enough to say "no."

Its only healing because ESG shit is starting to expire. I suspect this remake was in the work for years and ESG payments were already agreed to, so bethesda couldn't reneg on it and remove it without liability. But don't think these faggots have given up, they WILL try again.

 

[Pierre D'Olnique]

Not really as it does have an impact on the game as both sexes have different attribute distribution, women would start with higher personality or willpower and males would start with higher strength or endurance.

Verifiably false. The bonuses aren't equal for all races. Both sexes of lizards have -10 to Personality and no Strength bonuses, for example. Bretons share an Endurance penalty, etc etc.

 

[Chin of Campbell]

If you guys are arguing about the lack of male/female stat changes, it is literally exactly the same as the original game, you just get to pick which one you get regardless of gender. I have no idea how this is a bad thing and I refunded the game.

 

[Spud]

Verifiably false. The bonuses aren't equal for all races.

You're right, I forgot to add that to my post but while we're talking about race it seems that it's another thing that was changed from the original that plays a large role in the game. Damn, why the changes then?

If you guys are arguing about the lack of male/female stat changes, it is literally exactly the same as the original game, you just get to pick which one you get regardless of gender.

Not the lack but their existence in the original is why the changes didn't need to be made at all.

 

[Muad'Dick]

Writings been on the wall a LONG fucking time. I want to say it started around what, 2014???? slowly, but got worse and worse

Oh it goes back a lot further than 2014. The concept of "corporate responsibility" has been around since forever.

Is it used as a vector for nefarious aims? Absolutely. In the majority of cases though, its usually a company that has been hoodwinked into going along with it. A CEO or board member will read something about positive PR or increasing the attractiveness of your company to shareholders by going down this path, and the next thing you know expensive (but useless) consultants will be brought in, seminars will have to be attended, HR policies and company statements revised etc.

The same thing happened with QA standards in the 80s and 90s. Companies broke their back to comply with these ever evolving standards. Workflows had to be changed, new staff hired, needless documentation produced and the end result had a negligible effect on the end product, or often made it worse. Of course the cost of all of this was passed on to the consumer.

ESG and it's like are just another one of these scams. There will be many, many corporate snakeoil salesmen making a huge amount of money convincing companies that they have to adopt this kind of bullshit to remain competitive or attract investors. No doubt there will be some happy merchant laughing in the distance as the shekels roll in while he subverts yet another industry, but the bulk of the people involved in this have no ideology beyond that of making money. Companies are assailed constantly by people trying to peddle bullshit that offers a miracle cure for their bottom line, and the sad fact is that most companies fall for it. Hanlon's Razor always applies in these situations.

 

[Sir Baz the Intolerant]

One thing I'm really curious to see is if the enemy leveling is the same as in the original. I've always been one of those autistic weirdos that maintains that Oblivion's leveling system was nowhere near as bad as the zoomer YouTube grifters made it out to be. However it's definitely far from perfect and one aspect of it that I'll never defend, and that had bothered me since release, is how at higher levels lowly bandits will just be running around with daedric and mithril gear.

 

[Electric Mortar & Pestle]

Man, a lot of negativity here. Sure there are "quirks" that come with the territory of modern gaming. But god damn, I love Oblivion. I was getting 140+ FPS outside while streaming to my friends with max settings. No real crazy bugs, just that gorgeous jank that I remember so fondly. This remaster makes me feel like a kid again.

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

Man, a lot of negativity here. Sure there are "quirks" that come with the territory of modern gaming. But god damn, I love Oblivion. I was getting 140+ FPS outside while streaming to my friends with max settings. No real crazy bugs, just that gorgeous jank that I remember so fondly. This remaster makes me feel like a kid again.

Yeah I'll eventually pull my wallet and buy it, I already know. It's just always a fun game, although I'm disappointed that they didn't make the elf faces proper pointy and weird. Sometimes NPCs mouths seem too big for their faces when they speak, it's kinda nice that there is new jank too.

They made Lucien Lachance pretty handsome. I wonder how they remade his corpse. I hope it's good and bloody so zoomertrash can experience that moment in its full glory.

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

Woke DEI changes found in the Oblivion remastered: 'Race' is now 'Identity' and Sex-based attribute differences have been replaced by 'Origins'.

 

[Spooky Dogwood]

Saved outside of Vilviren so that I could test the extent of level scaling and it looks like the dumb item scaling is in full effect. At level 20 all the bandits were kitted out with elven and mithril gear and at 40 they all had glass equipment and daedric arrows. There already seems to be mods that change this that I will experiment with.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

Man, a lot of negativity here. Sure there are "quirks" that come with the territory of modern gaming. But god damn, I love Oblivion. I was getting 140+ FPS outside while streaming to my friends with max settings. No real crazy bugs, just that gorgeous jank that I remember so fondly. This remaster makes me feel like a kid again.

enjoying it so far, I do think theres a tendency with a lot of people to just get pissed off at anything that comes out these days, as someone who enjoys Bethesda games I don't really have an issue with it, its basically oblivion with all the modern convivences you get with todays games

 

[Übertroon]

>pick nibenean origin
>I'm now a troon
Sad

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

And like I said a few minutes ago, the Nord woman at the Flowing Bowl won't say "YOU ARE A BODY TYPE 1, AND I AM A BODY TYPE 2 WITH A CERTAIN DESIRE". Jesus Rollerblading CHRIST.
They refer to you as a MALE. Dar-Ma calls you HANDSOME if you're a male. NOTHING in the game is affected as a consequence of the character creation LABEL CHANGE. It's like that picture of a headstone wrapped in a tranny cloth with the real name still clearly visible underneath.
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Then why change it? If it clearly doesn't effect the game world, why bother changing it? You already know the answer. Its to "force" certain behaviors and pender to a bunch of eunuchs.

 

[Tablet County]

>pick nibenean origin
>I'm now a troon
Sad

Colovian chads keep winning.

 

[Electric Mortar & Pestle]

enjoying it so far, I do think theres a tendency with a lot of people to just get pissed off at anything that comes out these days, as someone who enjoys Bethesda games I don't really have an issue with it, its basically oblivion with all the modern convivences you get with todays games

I really did not enjoy Skyrim very much. The setting dilution was already there with Oblivion (Cyrodill is supposed to be a jungle, etc). It manages well enough in spite, but TES was at its best when Michael Kirkbride was working on it, higher than giraffe pussy.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

enjoying it so far, I do think theres a tendency with a lot of people to just get pissed off at anything that comes out these days, as someone who enjoys Bethesda games I don't really have an issue with it, its basically oblivion with all the modern convivences you get with todays games

I enjoy Bethsoft games too, but why i'm gonna buy Oblivion again with a modded setup of the OG which runs fine?

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

I know some of you faggots no life this game. Is the scaling system still fucked?

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

I enjoy Bethsoft games too, but why i'm gonna buy Oblivion again with a modded setup of the OG which runs fine?

thats fine too, I was talking about the YouTuber outrage culture that talks about every new release now, theres a bias against everything and its insane to me, Oblivion is not GaaSslop so I really don't see why so many people are angry about it

 

[Tablet County]

I really did not enjoy Skyrim very much. The setting dilution was already there with Oblivion (Cyrodill is supposed to be a jungle, etc).

I do like the reason given for why there are no jungles in Cyrodiil. As I recall Talos used his CHIM powers to edit Cyrodiil in the Creation Kit, unwittingly retconning the jungle from ever having existed while somehow not altering the course of history in the process. This is the explanation as to why there are no jungles in ESO Cyrodiil either.
It's the most lore friendly, Kirkbridian cop-out of all time.

 

[Chin of Campbell]

the OG which runs fine?

Teach me your ways, nigger. I can't get the original oblivion to run for longer than 20 minutes without crashing and that's unmodded aside from the fixes.