The Elder Scrolls

[God of Nothing]

I'm tempted to play the original Oblivion now with only multi-enchantment, necromancy, and maxed attribute when leveling mods.

 

[Tablet County]

Thats not what I said. That idiot I replied to justified "body types" with the game not adding "piles of woke shit", thus affirming that "body types" are the new normal and claiming its a W despite the convention having shifted in the troons favor because there isnt "piles of woke shit".
This is a common political/negotiating tactic that leftists like to use, demanding everything and throwing outlandish talking points into the discussion so when it comes down to a compromise they can go back on their most outlandish demands and keep their original goals. Nonbinary romances, amputee woman soldiers, forced niggers, race swaps, all that shit is just a red herring they can throw you as a bone if they need to.
So now complaining about "body types" is stupid and embarrassing when a few years ago it wasnt even a thing at all. Two steps forward, one step back, classic salami tactics and people keep falling for it because they are stupid.
Notice that leftists never cede any ground, will fight any attempt at pushback no matter how minor it may seem with uncompromising fury and defend all their talking points no matter how insane they may seem.
Thats how you get a win. You dont compromise, you dont accept anything remotely in your opponents favor and demand the most outlandish shit so your real goal seems like a minor concession in comparison.
If you accept "body types" you are an idiot and eventually you will accept the "piles of woke shit" too just like you accepted everything else.

That's fair. Although given how the pushback against body type troonery has been so severe that it got the comically leftist Nexus to not only compromise by putting a banned mod back up, but also provide translations for other languages on top of that, I think you may be exaggerating just how much of a "step back" it really is. Don't drink the doomeraid just because a victory didn't change the hearts and minds of everybody on the planet.

 

[Spooky Dogwood]

>play at 4k
>game crashes after a while due to memory crossing the 4GB mark
Good idea. A lot of 32-bit games are unplayable at high resolutions due to these issues, and Bethesda games fall into that category. I gave up on New Vegas even with the patch.

And this is why I think there's a possibility that this "remaster" will end up as the definitive version of Oblivion. Mods in the classic version are limited in scope. If you're running a lot of big mods, like curse of hircine, OOO, and Midas magic eventually your game is going to start shitting itself if you play enough, even with patches. I eventually hit a point where saves start corrupting and it's impossible to play anymore. All I wanted from Bethesda was Oblivion SE. I wanted Oblivion with an updated engine and .ESL support and that's it. I would have actually praised Godd Howard and would have bought the game had they done that, but unfortunately I think this is the closest we're going to get. That being the case, I am still interested to see where the mod scene can take the "remaster".

 

[Tepes Thot]

How does this work on Steamdeck? Can i install big titty and whore bikini armor mods?

I got to the jail cell and it seemed ok? Don’t expect it to look gorgeous, it’s low level computer settings, and my Deck heated up a little bit, but it played.
I even was able to add the bring back sanity mod for picking sex. So modding should be fine on it.

However, character creation is so fucking ugly, I’m waiting on mods, so I can’t say what it does beyond the jail cell.

 

[Meat Target]

I genuinely fucking hate faggots. I didn't used to. I used to think "eh, who cares if they want to live together and call it marriage." But now I realize that it's so much beyond that. We gave them an inch and they took a mile, and they want everyone else to be as miserable as they are.

Once they gained cultural hegemony, they no longer felt the need to be palatable to normies. Now, only a bigot would refuse to eat their shit and like it.

 

[Tablet County]

And this is why I think there's a possibility that this "remaster" will end up as the definitive version of Oblivion. The scope of mods in the classic version are limited in scope. If you're running a lot of big mods, like curse of hircine, OOO, and Midas magic eventually your game is going to start shitting itself if you play enough, even with patches. I eventually hit a point where saves start corrupting and it's impossible to play anymore. All I wanted from Bethesda was Oblivion SE. I wanted Oblivion with an updated engine and .ESL support and that's it. I would have actually praised Godd Howard and would have bought the game had they done that, but unfortunately I think this is the closest we're going to get. That being the case, I am still interested to see where the mod scene take the "remaster".

Honestly, if Beth released both this and a free 64-bit version of OG Oblivion they would have even people ITT soying out like they just saw Chungus Reeves.

 

[Charlaquin]

How does this work on Steamdeck? Can i install big titty and whore bikini armor mods?

I also own a Steam Deck and I'm thinking about picking it up, I don't have any firsthand experience but it is officially verified for the Deck and I saw a video as well as some posts showing/claiming that it targets 30 fps and does a decent job staying there. Again though I haven't played it myself yet so I don't know for sure.

 

[TheGuntinator]

Starfields issue was not that the engine was shit. Its problem was that the writing was shit.
No one at the studio can write anymore. Switching to a good engine will not solve that.

There's also the fact there is basically fuckall for POIs worth exploring for. If a system has a quest in it, it will be broadcast to your ship, if it doesnt its guaranteed none of the planets will be interesting. As soon as you step outside the guided path you won't find anything interesting.

this dumb "Body Type 1/Body Type 2" bullshit does is make nonbinary troons feel slightly less embarassed picking the gender they actually are (male or female).

It's basically killed cool shit like gender-based gameplay routes/dialogue/romance options for the sake of maybe placating less than 0.1% of the American population

This is the most infuriating part of it all. Even ignoring the ideology, this push for gender neutrality is just a push for lazy devs to not have to give a fuck about character gender. Both in modelling and writing.

I've only played a single game where you play as a woman, and actually experience misogyny. Expeditions Rome, if you play as a woman, everyone treats you differently, the institutions of power disrespect you openly based on your gender, men you fight belittle you for "pretending to be a general" and it actually felt satisfying to fuck these guys over when you gained power.

Misogyny was surprisingly refreshing after years of gender basically being a model swap often with gender neutral pronouns for all the writing so they never need to record a second line.

(Expeditions Vikings does misogyny too but I didnt get very far)

 

[Thewildpelican]

Came from the headline. This is crazy. Anyone should have the right to upload a general mod. It doesn't change the game for anyone who doesn't want it. Even the stardew valley dev didn't get up to conniption on the race-changing mod thing from black to white.

 

[The Ugly One]

The industry as a whole is so shit that Bethesda can release a barely functional game that requires user-made patches and mods to fully enjoy and it still comes on top, because the competition is so bad.

They've been doing this for 30 years. Daggerfall could not be beaten on release and to this day might be the most broken major release I have ever played. I had to get the patch off a PC Gamer disc later, IIRC, because lots of people, including us, didn't have home internet yet. Bethesda has always gotten away with it because nobody else does these grand-scope, open-ended RPGs like they do, not Bioware, not CD Projekt Red, nobody. Maybe the only other series that did was Ultima, but that hit the skids right when TES was getting off the ground and hasn't been relevant longer than half you kids have been alive.

 

[Ham Sandwich]

Not sure how I feel about the leveling speed. It almost feels too fast for comfort.

The leveling system from from oblivion was reworked:
1. In base oblivion only major skills contribute to your player level. In the remaster, all skills increase player level. You're potentially leveling up three times as fast as base oblivion.
2. In base oblivion the skills leveled affect how many attribute points you get, anywhere from 3 points to 15. In the remaster you get 12 points to distribute freely no matter what.
3. In base oblivion attribute bonuses are dependent on the level at which they occur; leveling endurance early is super important. In the remaster they are applied retroactively.

This was done because base oblivion suffers from something called "the leveling problem"
A player level is triggered once you raise any of your major skills a total of ten times. But it's not possible to get the maximum number of attribute points by only raising major skills. If a player wants to take full advantage of the system, they must put 2/3 of the skills they actually use outside of their major skills in their minor skill category, and level major skills 10 times per level and minor skills 20 times per level. If you micromanage each level-up and futz around with this system you will get 15 attribute points per level. If you only use major skills you will gain about 6 attribute points. If you only ever use skills from the major skill category, ie. the skills from your class, your character will become worse overtime relative to the enemies you fight. As a result most people either stay at level one the entire game, install a mod to fix it, or wonder why the game is getting so hard out of nowhere and drop the difficulty to easiest.

Overall I think the remaster has a good middle ground, but It's obvious why they axed attributes for Skyrim. It is anything but intuitive.

 

[Tablet County]

They've been doing this for 30 years. Daggerfall could not be beaten on release and to this day might be the most broken major release I have ever played. I had to get the patch off a PC Gamer disc later, IIRC, because lots of people, including us, didn't have home internet yet. Bethesda has always gotten away with it because nobody else does these grand-scope, open-ended RPGs like they do, not Bioware, not CD Projekt Red, nobody. Maybe the only other series that did was Ultima, but that hit the skids right when TES was getting off the ground and hasn't been relevant longer than half you kids have been alive.

Are you telling me that Beth actually has a strategy?

 

[HTTP Error 404]

nexus sucks the deepest of donkey dick; It has for years, and I dont see anything on the horizon to change that.

You have to culturally drive the trannies out. They thrive on getting into power and then imposing their cultural, social, and political values on institutions and people who just want to be left alone.

This is a cultural version of the "Tyranny of the Minority" -- if a minority demand something and the majority simply don't care, then implementing it makes sense as long as you make more money keeping the minority group around than it does to implement the change. (This is why they scream "it's a minor change no one cares bigot" whenever pushed back on this: If another minority group springs up that is AGAINST the change then it fundamentally changes the business calculus.) Tyranny of the Minority also works via orders of magnitude -- doing it in a subgroup then creates a new, bigger minority they can use against a larger supergroup. (For example, forcing McDonalds to change leads to forcing all fast food to change leads to changing food laws.)

If they're forbidden from doing this -- for example, if another mod just undoes the bans and makes a public apology -- they'll lose their shit and might storm off in a huff if you do it enough times.

 

[Mr Bunny]

i'm sure bethesda will start to do this more now.

They might try, but I think only this kind of marketing strat can work on remastered known games. As the marketing is basically that game you know but updated graphics.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

I also own a Steam Deck and I'm thinking about picking it up, I don't have any firsthand experience but it is officially verified for the Deck and I saw a video as well as some posts showing/claiming that it targets 30 fps and does a decent job staying there. Again though I haven't played it myself yet so I don't know for sure.

As a fellow steam deck enjoyer, the original runs FINE on deck, and theres enough controller layouts that work fine with it. I use Airloafs oblivion bindings.

If you REALLY, REALLY want the new one, I cant stop you, but the OG is 20$, and its plenty playable in vanilla. Combat is a LITTLE dated, but its not like MORROWIND dated, more like fallout 3 melee dated. A little bland but not dysfunctional or offensive, perfectly servicable.

 

[Maeis]

It is incredibly frustrating that people who are against body type a/b act like the other side are complete morons. They know exactly what message they want to send by having two gender options. Whether or not that's right or not doesn't matter, you should be honest about it. Nexus Mods allowing that change on their website would be a direct ACKnowledgement of the two genders theory, and as leftists, they reject it. But people are acting like "Why does text matter" etc, it just seems so disingenuous to ignore what that mod is trying to say.

 

[LucienLachance]

OG Oblivion sure has issues but Bethesda didn't want to make this remaster too good because it could have out shined Todd Howards crown jewel, the magnum opus Skyrim.

Who wants female characters in video games that look like your mom with all the obesity and saggy tits jigglin' in the wind bud? Playing video games is usually about getting a little break from reality, to play through your fantasy. Sure if your fantasy is to play as some Type B mammoth with blue hair go for it, thats why the character creator is there but they shouldn't make shit like that as the standard.

i thought his crown jewel magnum opus was unironically starfield

 

[Tablet County]

It is incredibly frustrating that people who are against body type a/b act like the other side are complete morons.

Welcome to internet arguments.

 

[Maeis]

Welcome to internet arguments.

Yep. I generally agree with the cause of the antiwoke but so many of the loud ones on twitter are so fucking insufferable its hard to actually side with them.

 

[Charlaquin]

As a fellow steam deck enjoyer, the original runs FINE on deck, and theres enough controller layouts that work fine with it. I use Airloafs oblivion bindings.

If you REALLY, REALLY want the new one, I cant stop you, but the OG is 20$, and its plenty playable in vanilla. Combat is a LITTLE dated, but its not like MORROWIND dated, more like fallout 3 melee dated. A little bland but not dysfunctional or offensive, perfectly servicable.

I know it makes me total niggercattle but I happen to be simultaneously interested in Oblivion as well as just thinking I'll get a kick from playing a high fidelity open world game on a handheld.