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Female redguards have always had particularly bad line delivery. Why they kept her voice in and got rid of the OG male orcs and elves I have no idea.

I've spent a little time looking at the difference between VAs in Skyrim and Oblivion, only to realize that outside of Nords the races of Men have no unique voices. They've added significantly more VAs and voice types to the game probably due to criticism Oblivion got, but mixing so many voices between different races makes them less distinct. I started looking into it in the first place because I couldn't for the life of me remember what Redguards sounded like in Skyrim even though I played it recently. I've talked before about how they've toned down the racial dimorphism too much in Skyrim and how you can't really tell what race some characters are at a glance, especially if they have a midtone complexion, but I've never noticed how much the voices blurred together.
 
Spooky Dogwood said:
I've spent a little time looking at the difference between VAs in Skyrim and Oblivion, only to realize that outside of Nords the races of Men have no unique voices. They've added significantly more VAs and voice types to the game probably due to criticism Oblivion got, but mixing so many voices between different races makes them less distinct. I started looking into it in the first place because I couldn't for the life of me remember what Redguards sounded like in Skyrim even though I played it recently. I've talked before about how they've toned down the racial dimorphism too much in Skyrim and how you can't really tell what race some characters are at a glance, especially if they have a midtone complexion, but I've never noticed how much the voices blurred together.
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I usually tell by their name.
Tertullius Brutus, Imperial.
Erik Volkmar, Nord.
Knobgobler Dumas, Breton.
 
Übertroon said:
I usually tell by their name.
Tertullius Brutus, Imperial.
Erik Volkmar, Nord.
Knobgobler Dumas, Breton.
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That's something you intuitively pick up on if you've played the previous games, but I wonder how familiar people who only ever played Skyrim are with the naming conventions of races that have less representation in the game. And while I don't care to do the research to prove it at the moment, I feel like Skyrim has more characters that only have a nondescript first name and no last name. While I'm complaining about lack of distinct characterization, I also miss how in Oblivion you could ask practically every NPC about themselves and they would tell you about their background and what they do. I should make a sloptube channel with all these idle thoughts I've been having about TES lately.
 
Spooky Dogwood said:
Why they kept her voice in and got rid of the OG male orcs and elves I have no idea.
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They kept her voice because it was distinct to her race, while Orcs and Nords shared voice actors. Adding voices had nothing to do with performance.

Originally, Wes Johnson was going to voice male Imperials and Bretons in Oblivion. I believe that there's actually a shit ton of voice files left over in the original game of Wes Johnson doing a lot of Breton dialogue, including Jauffres and even Martin Septim.
 
Spooky Dogwood said:
I feel like Skyrim has more characters that only have a nondescript first name and no last names
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Nords having a lack of surnames is consistent with Oblivion and Morrowind, Nords typically use acquired names rather than family names unless they're from a prominent family, so it makes sense Skyrim has less overall.
Bosmer and the beast races are alien enough cultures that them not having surnames fits, with both Bosmer and Argonians being jungle dwellers with jeet-like populaton growth who probably don't give a shit about ancestry within their own borders and I'd bet money the average Khajit doesn't even know their own father let alone a family tree.
Imperials and Bretons have surnames because of feudalism. Orcs use tribal surnames, and Dunmer also come from a tribal society with a strong focus on ancestor worship which explains them.

The odd ones out imo are Altmer and Redguards; maybe Redguards are few enough to not need them but Altmer seem like they should. Maybe both groups just avoid using their surnames outside of their own borders for convenience.
 
Yo its a long shot but any Tamriel Rebuilt developers have a due date on when you think Poison Song will come out? Ive been waiting to update OpenMW to the latest version and it will wipe all my guys Ive been playing for like 5 years
 
Proving yet again that the classic oblivion is better than the remaster, Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul mod just got a new update that adds a dynamic levelled list system where areas near roads and cities are safer and has low level foes, but where stronger foes can invade safe areas because of killed legion soldiers and gates spawning.
 
Übertroon said:
Proving yet again that the classic oblivion is better than the remaster, Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul mod just got a new update that adds a dynamic levelled list system where areas near roads and cities are safer and has low level foes, but where stronger foes can invade safe areas because of killed legion soldiers and gates spawning.
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Did the honeymoon period end or is there still a large amount of coping retards still trying to tell others that the demaster is the definite way to play?
 
Spooky Dogwood said:
but I wonder how familiar people who only ever played Skyrim are with the naming conventions of races that have less representation in the game.
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When i first played Skyrim i always mixed up Imperials with Bretons, for example i always believed that Belethor was an Imperial and Aventus Avenichi was breton, i only realized the distinction after doing a few forsworn misions that all of Breton names have some "th/ch" sounds like Cosnach, Madanach and Ainethach.
They should make Bretons more interesting looking, for a race that are supposed to be mutts of elves they dont look anything like them, i think giving them the forehead protuberances elves have would go a long way to make them look distinctive and interesting (or just good old elf ears).
 
Jose Beaner Luna said:
They should make Bretons more interesting looking, for a race that are supposed to be mutts of elves they dont look anything like them, i think giving them the forehead protuberances elves have would go a long way to make them look distinctive and interesting (or just good old elf ears).
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Alternatively, lean into the druidic aspect. I get that TES druids aren't skinchangers (I think?) but adding the option for something like minor scales, fur, or even vine crap on the neck, back, or forearms in the character creator could at least offer some variety.
Not that anything like that would happen. More likely they end up as nigger elves in TES6.
 
I was just sent this video from my source deep in Bethesda Studio. It's a short snippet of gameplay from TES: VI. Please don't share this outside of the Farms. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
 
I hope Emil gets a "promotion" to a position that saddles him with a tard wrangler. He's too much of a brown noser for Todd to fire outright even if he was the lightning rod for criticism after Starfields release, so stick him in some do nothing "director of writing" post.

Hell just diverting attention away from Todd by sperging on Twitter is probably enough to justify his paycheck.
 
God, I really need to hop back into Skyrim one of these days; still got to get the rest of the trophies for Platinum. After that, get to work on ESO.

How is the Oblivion Remaster at this point? I'm going to try and pick it up sometime in the future; any suggestions?
 
Scream Aim Fire said:
How is the Oblivion Remaster at this point? I'm going to try and pick it up sometime in the future; any suggestions?
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Received two big patches full of bugfixes and optimization thus far, more are on the way. Unlike Skyrim or F4, they don't break mods, which is a massive boon. Personally I'm holding off on starting a new playthrough until I get a beefier PC.
 
Cod of War said:
Fredrik Knudsen released a video about unofficial skyrim patch

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Let's see if he goes into Arthmoor's lowcow behavior or just sweeps it under the rug, though the description makes me think he might actually touch on it.
1755186689709.webp
 
Observotron said:
Everyone better download/backup the latest patch. I wouldn't put it past Arthmoor to get assmad and pull it from download sites.
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Thanks to a policy change around when Collections started, mods on Nexus can only be hidden, not outright deleted. He can only fatly scream into the void now.
 
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