The Elder Scrolls

[God of Nothing]

this nigga eats raw tofu.

which of us is the true fan?
he who can consume with minimal add-ons or the one who cannot stand it unless it's slathered with them?

 

[Spooky Dogwood]

I fail to see how they fail to see how they're not doing this with Skyrim.

I'm not talking about when they literally repackage and resell the same game. It was in reference to people who believe there's barely any difference between Bethesda games.

this nigga eats raw tofu.

not even that, most of the changes in CE is from FO4, not Skyrim.
so basically they are probably re-adding all of the skyrim shit plus the potential for censorship and mod selling that saarfield had but even more refined, for as much as they not publicly said they don't like coom mods, their modding guidelines make it clear as day though and i don't know if that is inherited from jeetsoft or if it's jeetthesda on their own since their attempts to make coom modding near impossible started with FO4.

FO4 predates Skyrim SE, so I assume it was using the most up-to-date version of CE before Starfield.

Would it have still sucked? Yeah probably. But it would have at least felt busier and might have bought them enough time for the A team to stop fixing 76 and go fix Starfield.

Having towns full of procgen NPCs was a mistake in the first place. It was something they were right to move away from in Morrowind. I don't want a Bethesda game to feel like GTA or Cyberpunk.

 

[StacticShock]

which of us is the true fan?
he who can consume with minimal add-ons or the one who cannot stand it unless it's slathered with them?

the true fan is the one that consumes it whenever, i have all skyrim versions and todd is smiling at me imperial, can you say the same?

FO4 predates Skyrim SE, so I assume it was using the most up-to-date version of CE before Starfield.

skyrim SE doesn't have the engine changes that FO4 has which was made worse on saarfield, shit like two piece armor, model materials, animation sets... so much so most of the LE mods have been ported to SE, the only ones that haven't been is because the mod makers can't be arsed or aren't living with us anymore

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

the true fan is the one that consumes it whenever, i have all skyrim versions and todd is smiling at me imperial, can you say the same?

Nah, i don't consider Creation crap.

skyrim SE doesn't have the engine changes that FO4 has which was made worse on saarfield, shit like two piece armor, model materials, animation sets... so much so most of the LE mods have been ported to SE, the only ones that haven't been is because the mod makers can't be arsed or aren't living with us anymore

Actuay Skyrim SE had the FO4 engine changes. Godrays are the best example.

 

[JJLiautaud]

no, i just don't like using mods unless it's to fix something broken

You should give tamriel rebuilt a go it ranges from good to fucking inspired.

 

[The News Crews]

I like Skyrim but it's very evident just how much of the game is carried by the atmosphere and presentation. The main quest is okay, nothing to write home about. The guild questlines are almost all bad. The civil war question is even worse. The RPG mechanics are so dumbed down that the game just feels dull to play. The combat? lol. The sneaking is barebones and fun for like the first two dungeons.

 

[God of Nothing]

I like Skyrim but it's very evident just how much of the game is carried by the atmosphere and presentation. The main quest is okay, nothing to write home about. The guild questlines are almost all bad. The civil war question is even worse. The RPG mechanics are so dumbed down that the game just feels dull to play. The combat? lol. The sneaking is barebones and fun for like the first two dungeons.

saddest shit is if it were released today, it'd be one of the best games of the decade
fuck this gay industry

 

[The Ugly One]

saddest shit is if it were released today

Yeah, it's been months since another Skyrim rerelease.

 

[Rick The Stick]

saddest shit is if it were released today, it'd be one of the best games of the decade
fuck this gay industry

What's real sad is just how mind-blowing Skyrim still is to so many retards. When skyrim came out, and then with every re-release they've done, I've been repeatedly astounded at how few people actually play these types of games and how any amount of player freedom is almost overwhelming.
Its why Oblivion and Morrowind are treated like these magical hidden gems now, and Daggerfall causes a fucking existential crisis.

 

[StacticShock]

What's real sad is just how mind-blowing Skyrim still is to so many retards. When skyrim came out, and then with every re-release they've done, I've been repeatedly astounded at how few people actually play these types of games and how any amount of player freedom is almost overwhelming.
Its why Oblivion and Morrowind are treated like these magical hidden gems now, and Daggerfall causes a fucking existential crisis.

maybe that's because indie and AA- are trying their hardest to copy skyrim instead of copying said games? if they did a morrowind roguelite esque friendslop game it could launch well granted you know what to QoL over morrowind... don't even need to make photorealistic graphics either.

 

[Fathomless Eminence]

Forgot how much of a trip the Morrowind Mage's Guild is
Quest 1: Collect some mushrooms for me :3
Quest 2: Collect some flowers for me :3
Quest 3: A member of our organization is not paying his guild dues. Collect his debt. If he does not pay, kill him.
Quest 4: A former Telvanni mage is located in this town. Convince him to join us. If he does not join, kill him.

 

[God of Nothing]

for me, it was playing pranks to advance to the next rank

 

[LovisXVI]

Forgot how much of a trip the Morrowind Mage's Guild is
Quest 1: Collect some mushrooms for me :3
Quest 2: Collect some flowers for me :3
Quest 3: A member of our organization is not paying his guild dues. Collect his debt. If he does not pay, kill him.
Quest 4: A former Telvanni mage is located in this town. Convince him to join us. If he does not join, kill him.

That's just Balmora, the bitch that runs that outfit has a (justified) hatred of the Telvanni, on account of the fact that they killed her parents.

 

[God of Nothing]

That's just Balmora, the bitch that runs that outfit has a (justified) hatred of the Telvanni, on account of the fact that they killed her parents.

should have been more powerful, smh

 

[Deus Exica]

Here some shit we all already know about.
And it's still infuriating.

What's infuriating is how nobody at Bethesda seems to actually understand what people mean when they say they want more Morrowind. They don't mean "bring back clunky ass combat" or "fill my screen with obtuse stat blocks", they mean they want an immersive open world RPG in an alien world full of depth regarding culture, aesthetic, tension, politics, and reactivity. A world you cam get lost in and feel like a part of. None of the games do this quite as well as

Morrowind, whose hands-off approach allows you and encourages you to explore it at your own pace without some oppressive overarching narrative beating down on you. It allows you to run off, get killed by mudcrabs, chat with every random NPC, kill whomever you want, and the game doesn't come to a screeching halt because you broke a questline some intern wrote about a tranny Argonian NPC.

People don't want RPG systems to return because they are in love with number crunching, but because it allows you to play with this world in unique and interesting ways that goes beyond shoot an arrow at it from stealth or hit it with a sword. People want to be able to cast a charm spell and raise somebody's disposition to convince them to let them pass, or smash Vivec's head in and turn him into a pair of shoes. Shit you simply cannot do with modern Bethesda titles.

These niggers don't understand that Skyrim was successful in spite of the retard safe design, not because of it.

 

[Sheep King]

While we're talking about Skyrim being safe, you know what I find weird? Skyrim doesn't have any barbarians. The closest I can think of is the Stormcloaks since the officers wear bear pelts.

Personally I'd gladly swap entire generic bandit camps and instead have to deal with one half-naked lunatic squatting in a cave. he doesn't attack you but the Jarl will still pay you to deal with him because he's leaving mutilated wolves all over the road and scaring off travellers. The Greybeards shouldn't be Jedi masters, they should be sitting around a fire in the middle of High Hrothgar throwing gnawed troll bones at you and telling you to bring them fresh bear pelts and hallucinogenic mushrooms before they shout you off the mountain for your faggot Dragonborn nonsense

The only quest I can remember that felt distinctly 'Nord-like' is the Stormcloak initiation where they tell you to go kill an Ice Wraith. Not just because it's a reference to the Pocket Guide where killing Ice Wraiths is a traditional Nord rite of passage but because it's more about travelling across the ice floes than actually fighting the thing, which coincidentally feels very much like a "go to this obscure unmarked spot and get me shit then come back" Morrowind quest.
Playing through it with a mod like Frostfall is a significant challenge as swimming through icy water is more or less inevitable, and it's thematically appropriate, because it means playing as a Nord with cold resistance is a big advantage when joining the Nord faction. It was one of my favourite parts of my last playthrough. With Oblivion it makes sense that quests are mostly focused on the cities with all their newfangled scripting but I really wish Skyrim had taken the opportunity to go for a more dispersed population.

 

[StacticShock]

Skyrim doesn't have any barbarians.

words of a filthy altmer that will never go to sovngarde.

 

[Fount of BadSpeak]

While we're talking about Skyrim being safe, you know what I find weird? Skyrim doesn't have any barbarians. The closest I can think of is the Stormcloaks since the officers wear bear pelts.

Personally I'd gladly swap entire generic bandit camps and instead have to deal with one half-naked lunatic squatting in a cave. he doesn't attack you but the Jarl will still pay you to deal with him because he's leaving mutilated wolves all over the road and scaring off travellers. The Greybeards shouldn't be Jedi masters, they should be sitting around a fire in the middle of High Hrothgar throwing gnawed troll bones at you and telling you to bring them fresh bear pelts and hallucinogenic mushrooms before they shout you off the mountain for your faggot Dragonborn nonsense

The only quest I can remember that felt distinctly 'Nord-like' is the Stormcloak initiation where they tell you to go kill an Ice Wraith. Not just because it's a reference to the Pocket Guide where killing Ice Wraiths is a traditional Nord rite of passage but because it's more about travelling across the ice floes than actually fighting the thing, which coincidentally feels very much like a "go to this obscure unmarked spot and get me shit then come back" Morrowind quest.
Playing through it with a mod like Frostfall is a significant challenge as swimming through icy water is more or less inevitable, and it's thematically appropriate, because it means playing as a Nord with cold resistance is a big advantage when joining the Nord faction. It was one of my favourite parts of my last playthrough. With Oblivion it makes sense that quests are mostly focused on the cities with all their newfangled scripting but I really wish Skyrim had taken the opportunity to go for a more dispersed population.

The Forsworn definitely seem to fit that bill just fine. They wear animal furs, do savage blood magic, leave mutilated animals all over the place, and commune with inhuman witches for power while living in shitty tents made out of hides, or living in caves and ruins. Their most powerful unit is a guy whose heart was cut out and replaced with a briar heart. Yeah, they're shittily implemented and there's almost nothing interesting about them or what they're doing, but they are very much exactly what you are describing as far as barbarians go.

I am not entirely sure what you mean by "barbarian" if the Forsworn don't count.

 

[LovisXVI]

I am not entirely sure what you mean by "barbarian" if the Forsworn don't count.

He says right in the post, there are no real Nords, just pale Imperials, down to the Gods they worship. Kyne only gets namedropped by like 5 characters in the whole game despite it being made a big deal on how she is so central to the religion of the Nords in previous games, and is quite distinct from Kynareth. To put it another way, the Ashlanders represent a primitive Dunmer lifestyle more similar to the Chimer of old, and are a valuable insight into the culture of Resdayn and how things have changed for the Dunmer over the centuries. It emphasizes how the Dunmer are strange compared to the baseline of the Imperials, clearly done via the design of the world of starting you in an Imperial town, then directing you to a Hlaalu city, and slow boils the alien qualities of the culture if following the main quest, then hits you with the Ashlanders as strange compared to the now familiar Great House Dunmer. Even though it is clear the Nords are Imperialized, they don't play around with it; they don't emphasize one region as being more traditional than another beyond lip service in the Stormcloak quests. At no point are you ever truly immersed in Nordic culture, feel as though, as an outsider, you have become familiar with and even accepted in a strange, alien, but noble culture and the character transformed from an unfortunate smuck who got grabbed and sent off to the chopping block, to local messianic avatar of their chief God, Shor in the same way Morrowind does it with the quest to become the Nerevarine.

 

[Spooky Dogwood]

I am not entirely sure what you mean by "barbarian" if the Forsworn don't count.

We're talking ass-naked crowds of berserkers and fryse hags hanging out in the snow like in bloodmoon. You are right to say that the forsworn fit the bill pretty well, but ironically they're Bretons and not Nords.