The ‘Ghost Gun’ Linked to Luigi Mangione Shows Just How Far 3D-Printed Weapons Have Come - The design of the gun police say they found on the alleged UnitedHealthcare CEO’s killer—the FMDA or “Free Men Don’t Ask”—was released by a libertarian group.

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An FMDA 19.2 model 3D-printed “ghost gun”
Photograph: Mr Snow Makes


More than a decade after the advent of the 3D-printed gun as an icon of libertarianism and a gun control nightmare, police say one of those homemade plastic weapons has now been found in the hands of perhaps the world’s most high-profile alleged killer. For the community of DIY gunsmiths who have spent years honing those printable firearm models, in fact, the handgun police claim Luigi Mangione used to fatally shoot UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is as recognizable as the now-famous alleged shooter himself—and shows just how practical and lethal those weapons have become.

In the 24 hours since police released a photo of what they say is Mangione’s gun following the 26-year-old’s arrest Monday, the online community devoted to 3D-printed firearms has been quick to identify the suspected murder weapon as a particular model of printable “ghost gun”—a homemade weapon with no serial number, created by assembling a mix of commercial and DIY parts. The gun appears to be a Chairmanwon V1, a tweak of a popular partially 3D-printed Glock-style design known as the FMDA 19.2—an acronym that stands for the libertarian slogan “Free Men Don’t Ask.”

The FMDA 19.2, released in 2021, is a relatively old model by 3D-printed-gun standards, says one gunsmith who goes by the first name John and the online handle Mr. Snow Makes. But it’s one of the most well-known and well-tested printable ghost gun designs, he says. The Chairmanwon V1 remix that police say Mangione had in his possession when he was arrested in a Altoona, Pennsylvania McDonald’s varies from that original FMDA 19.2 design only in that another amateur gunsmith, who goes by the pseudonym Chairmanwon, added a different texture to the gun’s grip.

“For someone who has been building firearms like this for five years, it’s a bit of an odd choice. We’ve been building nicer models,” says Mr. Snow Makes, who hosts an annual ghost gun shooting competition. But he adds that “this is one of the earliest 3D-print Glock styles that was widely tested and successful at creating a reliably functional firearm.”

Authorities in New York charged Mangione on Monday in the December 4 murder of Thompson, alongside weapons charges and other alleged offenses in Pennsylvania. A handwritten “manifesto” police say they found on Mangione's person upon his arrest laments UnitedHealthcare's practices and the US health insurance industry more broadly. Bullet casings discovered at the scene of the shooting outside the New York Hilton Midtown hotel in Manhattan were reportedly emblazoned with the words “deny,” “defend,” “depose”—likely criticisms of health care industry practices.

The fact that even a relatively old model of 3D-printed firearm allegedly allowed Mangione to shoot Thompson repeatedly on a Manhattan street—certainly the most high-profile shooting ever committed with a ghost gun or a 3D-printed weapon—shows how far DIY weapons tech has come, says Cody Wilson, the founder of the gun rights group Defense Distributed. Unlike the earliest 3D-printed gun models, the FDMA 19.2 can be fired hundreds or even thousands of times without its plastic components breaking.

“It just speaks to the ease with which you can do this,” says Wilson. “He doesn’t have to be an expert at 3D-printed guns or shooting, and it all works.”
Despite its simple description by law enforcement and others as a “3D-printed pistol,” the FMDA 19.2 is only partially 3D printed. That makes it fundamentally different from fully 3D-printed guns like the “Liberator,” the original one-shot, 3D-printed pistol Wilson debuted in 2013.

Instead, firearms built from designs like the FMDA 19.2 are assembled from a combination of commercially produced parts like barrels, slides, and magazines—sometimes sold in kits—and a homemade frame. Because that frame, often referred to as a “lower receiver” or “lower," is the regulated body of the gun, 3D-printing that piece or otherwise creating it at home allows DIY gunmakers to skirt gun-control laws and build ghost guns with no serial number, obtained with no background check or waiting period.

The FMDA 19.2 model, released by a group originally known as Deterrence Dispensed—a gun-building group initially inspired by Wilson’s Defense Distributed but now widely seen as a rival—was distinguished by its use of commercially available “rails,” the metal components that guide the upper part of the gun known as its slide, which retracts with every shot, resetting the trigger and loading a new round into the chamber. (In a widely circulated video of Thompson's murder, the gun allegedly fired by Mangione appears not to have functioned as a semiautomatic. That's a result of the suppressor attachment preventing its re-chambering mechanism, gunsmiths say.)

The FMDA 19.2's relatively simple tweak—the use of commercially produced metal rails instead of homemade ones—led the gun model to be considered the most practical and reliable 3D-printed Glock design available at the time it was released three years ago. “There had been earlier Glock-style pistols, but the interior rail components were not as refined,” says Mr. Snow Makes. “It’s kind of that perfect blend of 3D-printed frame and precision rails.”

Deterrence Dispensed, the group behind that FMDA 19.2 design, has since rebranded under the name “the Gatalog.” But the group’s original website still bears the libertarian gun rights slogans that summarize its ideology. “All individuals are entitled to the utility to defend their humanity,” the site reads. “Gun control has failed. You can’t stop the signal.”

A founder of Deterrence Dispensed who went by the named Jstark, later revealed to be a now-deceased German man named Jakob Duygu, was featured in a 2020 Popular Front documentary wearing a black balaclava and sunglasses. “We want people to have freedom of speech and the right to bear arms," he says in the film. “If that’s too politically extreme for you, fuck yourself.”

Just two months ago, one Bergen, New York, man who allegedly acted as an administrator for the Gatalog named Peter Celentano was arrested and charged with illegal ownership of two machine guns and numerous 3D-printed and other homemade handgun and AR-15 components.

Exactly why Mangione allegedly used a 3D-printed gun in the killing of UnitedHealthcare’s Thompson—whether as a political statement or in the belief that it would help him evade identification—remains far from clear. But as a coder and technologist, he may have been attracted to the idea. “This is the US. It’s not the easiest way to get your hands on a gun,” says another DIY gunsmith who spoke to WIRED but asked not to be named, in reference to 3D-printed firearms. “But he’s a techy guy, and he may have just owned a 3D printer. It wouldn’t be a bad way to make an untraceable gun.”

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The whole ghost gun thing would be way spookier if Mangione wasn't completely legally allowed to purchase both a firearm and a suppressor as a person who had never before committed a crime. Also if he tossed it instead of keeping it so that he could prove his guilt for attention. As it is, it's completely meaningless that he made the pistol himself, since he wanted to get caught regardless.
 
The whole ghost gun thing would be way spookier if Mangione wasn't completely legally allowed to purchase both a firearm and a suppressor as a person who had never before committed a crime. Also if he tossed it instead of keeping it so that he could prove his guilt for attention. As it is, it's completely meaningless that he made the pistol himself, since he wanted to get caught regardless.
I am not intimately familiar with gun laws in the US, but aren't there some states that require you to get all kinds of licensing, while others are more lax about it? Maybe he didn't wanna fuck around with all the bureaucratic bullshit to get his hands on one.

Also, wouldn't using one of these guns make it harder for cops to trace and make it easier to get away with the crime if he wasn't caught, and caught with the murder weapon in his possession? Furthermore, we don't even know what his frame of mind was when he was caught in the McDonalds only one state over. I could be wrong, but based on the fact that he started shaking and freaking out when he was caught, I don't think he wanted to be, I think after committing the murder and days of being on the run he was genuinely shocked and emotionally drained/stressed/paranoid as fuck and it was taking a massive toll on him.
 
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A founder of Deterrence Dispensed who went by the named Jstark, later revealed to be a now-deceased German man named Jakob Duygu, was featured in a 2020 Popular Front documentary wearing a black balaclava and sunglasses. “We want people to have freedom of speech and the right to bear arms," he says in the film. “If that’s too politically extreme for you, fuck yourself.”
Jstarks designs had nothing to do with this... the FGC is a much superior weapon
 
The government doesn't need to know what you have, where you are, or what you do. No government that wants to know, wants to do good things with that information.
To add to this, the reason we have 2A to being with is to protect ourselves FROM THE GOVERNMENT should it ever overstep. Like how the Brits tried to disarm the colonists when they were trying to reassert control of the colony, and then we got the fucking revolution because they told them to fuck themselves and kept their guns.

The founding fathers were well aware that American's could and did murder each other with firearms, but found that to be a far more acceptable risk with far less harm done to society than giving the government the monopoly on violence.

And just to add flavor, ALL GUN CONTROL VIOLATES 2A AND GIVING EVEN AN INCH WILL LEAD TO A MILE (just look at urban shitholes)!!!
 
I am not intimately familiar with gun laws in the US, but aren't there some states that require you to get all kinds of licensing, while others are more lax about it? Maybe he didn't wanna fuck around with all the bureaucratic bullshit to get his hands on one.

Also, wouldn't using one of these guns make it harder for cops to trace and make it easier to get away with the crime if he wasn't caught, and caught with the murder weapon in his possession? Furthermore, we don't even know what his frame of mind was when he was caught in the McDonalds only one state over. I could be wrong, but based on the fact that he started shaking and freaking out when he was caught, I don't think he wanted to, I think after committing the murder and days of being on the run he was genuinely shocked and emotionally drained/stressed/paranoid as fuck and it was taking a massive toll on him.
Do you think it's easier to learn how to fabricate a firearm or to take a train to a state where you can just buy a gun over the counter with a simple background check?

Background check records aren't supposed to be kept, btw, so there would have been no record that he purchased a weapon.

The whole thing is very weird.
 
IDK, given how many times that gun jammed, Ghost Guns must really have been shit at the start. Anyone that has used a gun put together by a manufacturer will tell you the performance of the gun he used was just fucking sad.
 
Do you think it's easier to learn how to fabricate a firearm or to take a train to a state where you can just buy a gun over the counter with a simple background check?

Background check records aren't supposed to be kept, btw, so there would have been no record that he purchased a weapon.

The whole thing is very weird.
In that case, I agree. There are lots of weird inconsistencies with this whole thing so far.
 
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Do you think it's easier to learn how to fabricate a firearm or to take a train to a state where you can just buy a gun over the counter with a simple background check?

Background check records aren't supposed to be kept, btw, so there would have been no record that he purchased a weapon.

The whole thing is very weird.
In that case, I agree. There are lots of weird inconsistencies with this whole thing so far.
I honestly think this is a glowie/fed gayop. Shit smells as planted as pigs needing a monthly sacrificial hood nigger with CIA made 100% Columbian planted on him. I'm not keen on Second Amendment plots or conspiracies, and I know something smells fucking fishy about this.
 
Ghost gun is like the gayest term I ever heard. Like “OooOooOooOooh! Bewaaare the haaaaunted gunnnn! It kills alllll by itsellllf! OooOooh!” just call it a plastic gun nigga lmao
 
Ghost gun is like the gayest term I ever heard.
It's also one of the most frequently redefined, if my memory serves it can mean:

-Receivers made by citizens that do not have a serial number.
-80% Receivers finished by citizens.
-Receivers 3D printed and thus do not have a serial number.
-Receivers made of exclusively non-metallic substances:
--Those which are 3D printed
--Those which are NOT 3D printed.
-Entirely 3D printed guns.
 
They're piggybacking to make this sound scarier than it is, note all the media around this stresses it's a "3D printed gun" which is technically true due to the legal definition of a firearm in the US, but it's the one of the simplest pieces and there's nothing illegal about making your own and never has been.

Instead, firearms built from designs like the FMDA 19.2 are assembled from a combination of commercially produced parts like barrels, slides, and magazines—sometimes sold in kits—and a homemade frame. Because that frame, often referred to as a “lower receiver” or “lower," is the regulated body of the gun, 3D-printing that piece or otherwise creating it at home allows DIY gunmakers to skirt gun-control laws and build ghost guns with no serial number, obtained with no background check or waiting period.
It isn't skirting any law, it is legal to build your own firearms and the law is nonsense. So when they define the "firearm" as a mostly plastic/aluminum housing that's on them.
The term “firearm” means (A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon; (C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or (D) any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.
It's non-descript enough the ATF has had to update its own defintion to try to make it work to fight scary "ghost guns," which are a non-issue in crime. Guns used in crime are overwhelmingly serialized and even then it's rare for serial number to help solve crime. It's all deliberately obtuse and vague, no one is skirting anything by making their own firearms and isn't their fault the "firearm" a hunk of something relatively simple.

For example, this is the firearm part of a Glock. Notice there isn't a trigger.
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This is what is legally an AR-15. Again, no trigger.
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I hate these people.
 
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