The Ghostbusters Thread (Old, New, Animated, Whatever)

[GabeRegan]

Weekend stimates: third place, 21,600,000 with 3963 threaters. a 53,1 % drop.
Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $86,856,739 70.7%
+ Foreign: $36,000,000 29.3%
= Worldwide: $122,856,739

Source.

Well, fuck.

It's not going to get better for them either, next week is Jason Bourne, and the week after that is Suicide Squad and Nine Lives.

 

[Karen Riley]

It still has atleast six weeks to go, before we can make a final judge-

oh who am I kidding. Even if the movie makes the actual budget back (which I am at least willing to believe) considering the overall costs for marketing and merchandise, this thing is the biggest stinker based on a franchise associated with nerds since Fantastic Four. And with the studio wanting at least 500 millions before considering a sequel... congrats. Feig busted the Ghostbuster franchise.

The majority of box office websites are all of the consensus that this film will need to be at 250 million before anyone can even try to claim that it's broken even. It's still 21 million off even reaching the production budget and with domestic numbers grinding slower and slower it probably won't even hit that before next weekend. At this stage I think no matter what they'll green light a sequel. They'll claim that with home video and streaming rights that they've made money off of this film and we'll have to go through all of this again in a few years time.

 

[The Grimace]

Weekend stimates: third place, 21,600,000 with 3963 threaters. a 53,1 % drop.
Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $86,856,739 70.7%
+ Foreign: $36,000,000 29.3%
= Worldwide: $122,856,739

Source.

Well, fuck.

That domestic gross is pretty damn funny. Really shows how important China is to the movie market I guess.

And someone fill me in, exactly how bad is the current gross for this movie? I don't know much about box office shit.

 

[YI 457]

Really shows how important China is to the movie market I guess.

Nah. It's not.

 

[The Grimace]

Nah. It's not.

I guess it's more of a case by case thing. Stuff like those dumbass Transformers movies sell super well over in China

 

[Henry Bemis]

I guess it's more of a case by case thing. Stuff like those dumbass Transformers movies sell super well over in China

Stuff that doesn't lose a lot in translation, basically. Or, even better, stuff that doesn't need translation at all. KA-BOOM is a universal language.

 

[GabeRegan]

That domestic gross is pretty damn funny. Really shows how important China is to the movie market I guess.

And someone fill me in, exactly how bad is the current gross for this movie? I don't know much about box office shit.

It's the end of Week 2 and the film has yet to make back it's $144 million budget (which doesn't include marketing) and suffered a 53% drop off from ticket sales. According to Paul Feig the film needs to gross $500 million for Sony to consider it successful. In two weeks the film will have to deal with Suicide Squad and Nine Lives, both of which will lure away ticket sales for Ghostbusters.

Their are still some places that the film hasn't been released yet though, Russia and several European markets are getting the film on the 29th. However, the Japanese release isn't until August 19th (and is a limited release) and the French release isn't until August 24th (why are the French the last people to get the film?).

Domestically the film is probably done, anyone who really wanted to see it has probably already seen it and judging from the ratings on Rotten Tomatoes / Metacritic / IMBD it's probably getting a bad word of mouth. With the remaining international release they'll probably at least break even with the production budget, but without China I can't see them making $500 million.

 

[BatNapalm]

At this stage I think no matter what they'll green light a sequel. They'll claim that with home video and streaming rights that they've made money off of this film and we'll have to go through all of this again in a few years time.

Sony must really like flushing money down the toilet.

It seems very rare these days that a film that performed poorly at the box office will eventually "make its money back" on home video. I mean, The Force Awakened grossed $2 billion at the box office but it sold about $130 million worth of DVDs/BluRays. That's about...what, only 6.5% of what it grossed at the theaters?

Again, we can only speculate at this point but I'm guessing at the end of its theatrical run, Ghostbusters 2016 will probably need to make Star Wars money on home video. And that hardly seems likely.

 

[AnOminous]

It's the end of Week 2 and the film has yet to make back it's $144 million budget (which doesn't include marketing) and suffered a 53% drop off from ticket sales. According to Paul Feig the film needs to gross $500 million for Sony to consider it successful. In two weeks the film will have to deal with Suicide Squad and Nine Lives, both of which will lure away ticket sales for Ghostbusters.

After it's second week it's only at $86 million out of a $144 million production budget, not even counting the ridiculous and mostly squandered estimated at least equal amount for marketing, which they spent pissing in the face of the film's audience. Who woulda thunk that going full SJW and screaming at and insulting your audience doesn't sell?

 

[Karen Riley]

After it's second week it's only at $86 million out of a $144 million production budget, not even counting the ridiculous and mostly squandered estimated at least equal amount for marketing, which they spent pissing in the face of the film's audience. Who woulda thunk that going full SJW and screaming at and insulting your audience doesn't sell?

The only thing that could stop this from being an utter disaster is the international box office. They've already grossed 30 million on top of the 86 domestic, with most of the international markets still to come.

The problem is, while international markets aren't as aware of the controversy and disdain Sony have for original Ghostbusters fans, there's also not much of a strong Ghostbusters fan base worldwide. I can't see the final international gross being much higher than 110 million.

Also Boxofficemojo have finally released the weekend official numbers. Ghostbusters has ended up finishing fifth, 300,000 dollars behind fourth place and 600,000 behind third. From 2nd in the first week to 5th in the second is a horrible result.

 

[AnOminous]

Also Boxofficemojo have finally released the weekend official numbers. Ghostbusters has ended up finishing fifth, 300,000 dollars behind fourth place and 600,000 behind third. From 2nd in the first week to 5th in the second is a horrible result.

I've been waiting for those to finalize and yes, it is now officially a BOMB.

 

[Justlurkin]

The only thing that could stop this from being an utter disaster is the international box office. They've already grossed 30 million on top of the 86 domestic, with most of the international markets still to come.

The problem is, while international markets aren't as aware of the controversy and disdain Sony have for original Ghostbusters fans, there's also not much of a strong Ghostbusters fan base worldwide. I can't see the final international gross being much higher than 110 million.

Also Boxofficemojo have finally released the weekend official numbers. Ghostbusters has ended up finishing fifth, 300,000 dollars behind fourth place and 600,000 behind third. From 2nd in the first week to 5th in the second is a horrible result.

Frenchfag here, can confirm. Aside from a bit of mention in media nobody really followed it and the first one is far less culturally significant over here, I doubt it'll do much.
Plus they actually delayed the release here so it'll be at the same time as Star trek and Independance day. Edit: It's actually out in AUGUST, the same week as Suicide Squad and the new Bourne movie.
Besides, Foreign gross is often overvalued because they often have far worse deals with teathers regarding the net revenue out of a ticket compared to murrican soil.

 

[GabeRegan]

The only thing that could stop this from being an utter disaster is the international box office. They've already grossed 30 million on top of the 86 domestic, with most of the international markets still to come.

Of the remaining international releases, the only big ones seem to be Russia, Japan, Germany and France. While there might be an interest in Japan, it also is having a limited release and is going up against X-Men Apocalypse (plus whatever local films might be released).

 

[XYZpdq]

I wonder how it'll fly in Japan. As far as I've seen they got a bunch of the HK spoopy comedies over the years, and they had that semilegit Ghostbusters knock off TV series a couple of years back.

 

[GabeRegan]

Well they had four comedians do a cover song of the original theme song, so there's probably at least some hype for the film other there.

 

[That Chris Guy]

I'm curious as to how it will perform in Japan as well. I mean they're going from this:

to this:

Will the same jokes translate over correctly? I don't think anything related to Leslie Jones would be remotely funny to them.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Japan will be interesting since even Disney could not get away with porting over the Haunted Mansion - the Disneyland Tokyo 'version' is more like a generic take on Night at the Museum theming with the Winnie the Pooh self-driving car system, but absolutely no ghosts.

The only way I see the entire premise working in Japan is if they just make the ghosts into 'spirits' or something, since that is the one exception to the whole 'no ghosts' taboo I can think of off the top of my head.

 

[Henry Bemis]

I'm curious as to how it will perform in Japan as well...
Will the same jokes translate over correctly?

Another question: is it particularly difficult to translate movies with a goodly portion of improvised dialogue? And not just as a word-for-word thing, but as an energy and pacing thing, too.

 

[XYZpdq]

Japan will be interesting since even Disney could not get away with porting over the Haunted Mansion - the Disneyland Tokyo 'version' is more like a generic take on Night at the Museum theming with the Winnie the Pooh self-driving car system, but absolutely no ghosts.

The only way I see the entire premise working in Japan is if they just make the ghosts into 'spirits' or something, since that is the one exception to the whole 'no ghosts' taboo I can think of off the top of my head.

I dunno about Disneyland but visual media's fine with bustin' ghosts. Sorry about the chinese fansubs but it was the fastest copy I could fine.

 

[AnOminous]

Another question: is it particularly difficult to translate movies with a goodly portion of improvised dialogue? And not just as a word-for-word thing, but as an energy and pacing thing, too.

Pretty sure this version didn't have a bit of spontaneity to it.