💬 Off-Topic "The Good Ones" - For the 1% of trannies that pass and/or aren't otherwise fucking insane

[Deepland Bystander]

It absolutely should be a thread, like be honest regardless of all the good points people make towards hating on troons/trans whatever you want to call it, the farms has become such an echo chamber to this particular view that some people are almost comedic in their hatred. Like honestly to claim that kiwis don’t have any confirmation bias towards these groups is a little ridiculous considering how schizo/cruel we can be. (telling people to kill themselves even if they are unpleasant is a bit much)

like so much of it is mired in elitism I think like people just egg each other on to try and outdo each other in hating them, honestly the great aspect about the farms is that virtually anyone can be made fun of including our own user base, So honestly I think it should count.

Imo, that kind of thread would be quite divisive, but in some way I agree with you that Kiwifarms can be a bit too extreme with their trans hatred (Or any groups hated by the right wingers). On a related note : Even in Tranny sideshow thread, once in a while you'll get racial supremacist spergs that totally don't have the do with the thread at all, because some kiwis just have the compulsion snuck in race debate into everything they posts, on the principle of free speech I'd let them do it, but it's extremely stupid and it's all about the desire to show off edginess regardless of context, it is thread derailing. I understand why people get like that, because mainstream censorship, people get more extreme here, but even then you have countless of Deep Thoughts threads for that.

I found the whole 'kys tranny' act some kiwis are doing kind of dumb. Due to polarisation and Kiwi natures as a trolling/gossip forum, so like you said, it's an environment where people are trying to be more 'based' by being more vile and aggressive. I get the fun, but that kind of mentality any stifles real discussions to be made.

Although I must admit I threw a few trashcans at your early posts about 'dysphoria being caused by wrong brain sex', because it's really a principle I don't agree with and I'll stand against that regardless. I can accept that some transgender people are nice, but I treat them as what a devout religious person might be, and that they still deserves basic human needs. However I don't find identity affirmation to be part of it, nor I think our secular state should promote this particular religion. I also find the beliefs of 'transmedicalists' to be more insidious than tucutes and grifters since it hinges on the promotion of scientific misunderstanding as truth, and how much medicine is now an uncriticisable authority.

Someone can believe the concept of transgenderism to be a total bunk while having sympathy to them as human.

 

[Mukhrani]

I can accept that some transgender people are nice, but I treat them as what a devout religious person might be, and that they still deserves basic human needs. However I don't find identity affirmation to be part of it, and in fact I find our concept of transgenderism to be fairly destructive, it's very rooted in early 20th century failed idealism that became corrupted. I actually find the beliefs of 'transmedicalist' to be more insidious than tucutes and grifters since it hinges on the promotion of scientific misunderstanding as truth. (And this is speaking as someone who's seen an awful case of medical malpractice in real life that I still cannot speak out because of the power of medical authority).

I can definitely understand the extreme attitude against trannies. I remember reading a detailed write-up on the history of bussing in Boston. The ivory tower types who supported the policy believed that racial hatred was caused by ignorance, and predicted that forcing children of different races into the same schools would get rid of racism by exposing people who were ignorant of one another to different types of people. The opposite happened. You had an absolute explosion of racial venom, ethnic riots, white flight, and just a huge general clusterfuck. The author pointed out that hatred isn't some magical evil that leads to conflict, but it's a part of the war-making process that kicks into effect after boundaries have been violated and a population perceives itself as under threat, or being encroached upon - you can see this in war propaganda. As soon as your tribe sees a rival tribe as 'coming for' your stuff, you anticipate conflict, and you won't be effective at fighting if you have sympathy for the other side. So you dispense with such sympathy, narrowing its scope to your own 'tribe'.

This is basically what happened with trannies. How many hobbies have been infiltrated by trannies who started out all contrite and weepy, only to eventually worm themselves into positions of power and then use that power to hijack the hobby and shut down dissent? How many friend groups or informal gatherings have let one in out of pity, only for the vibe to be ruined at best or for the tranny to start random drama at worst? Once one of them is in your group it's often too late - they've attached to the more liberal people like barnacles and can manipulate them into defending the tranny. And this is just the innocuous shit - there's also the classroom grooming, custody law shit that sets any parent's lizard brain on fire.

What a huge amount of people are doing right now is:

1. Recognizing trannies as a hostile group

2. Drawing boundaries and enforcing them (gatekeeping)

3. Killing sympathy for trannies because sympathy is a weakness that can be turned against you by an unscrupulous enemy

It's basic conflict psychology, and the people using it aren't psychos. The people to blame for this are 100% the trannies themselves - many of them are hostile to any 'normal person' space or hobby and are total headcases that need to be catered to and soothed by everyone. Of those who aren't this way, I'm willing to bet that a majority of these 'good ones' support the 'transgender movement' to the hilt. Of those who don't support it, very few of them will vocally speak out about its excesses. It'd be ridiculous to extend any benefit of the doubt to a tranny unless you already have a strong personal attachment to them.

 

[Deepland Bystander]

I can definitely understand the extreme attitude against trannies. I remember reading a detailed write-up on the history of bussing in Boston. The ivory tower types who supported the policy believed that racial hatred was caused by ignorance, and predicted that forcing children of different races into the same schools would get rid of racism by exposing people who were ignorant of one another to different types of people. The opposite happened. You had an absolute explosion of racial venom, ethnic riots, white flight, and just a huge general clusterfuck. The author pointed out that hatred isn't some magical evil that leads to conflict, but it's a part of the war-making process that kicks into effect after boundaries have been violated and a population perceives itself as under threat, or being encroached upon - you can see this in war propaganda. As soon as your tribe sees a rival tribe as 'coming for' your stuff, you anticipate conflict, and you won't be effective at fighting if you have sympathy for the other side. So you dispense with such sympathy, narrowing its scope to your own 'tribe'.

Something of an interesting note is how there is much less ethnic conflicts in my country, but it's caused by years of suppression of different groups from being too radicalised, incentives for assimilation to the majority culture, and genuine openness for cultural exchanges. This is not 'multiculturalism' in the way ivory tower liberals think that it is (They think melting pot is racist now) - where each different groups are siloed into their ethnic enclaves and it is only diverse because there are many separate ethnic enclaves in one city, to be used as a form of moral tourism. You cannot create a stable and non-discriminative society while forcing each ethnic groups to still be 'separate and exotic', and that's the fault of current liberalism. The more they treat a specific group with special standard, the more animousity it causes, because others would feel like they're not being valued. the competition for the 'resources' happen in that way. What will ease racial hatred? Common goal. See Bacon Rebellion for example.

Now, back to trannies, I think the way they invade hobbies are problematic because they demand power and special treatment like you said. There's also a thing about transgenderism is that it can only exist with ideological basis, because being trans is similar to being a believer of a religion. Even the 'nice ones' still have to subscribe to the movement because their sense of self hinged on the belief of gender identity. So even the nice ones still have to protect their beliefs, and the ones that try to speak against it come across as massive hypocrites (Buck Angle, for example)

I sort of see that all trannies have special privilege of being able to legally falsify their sex already to begin with too.

 

[Procrastinhater]

there's also the classroom grooming, custody law shit that sets any parent's lizard brain on fire.

I think you just identified why I truly began to despise them and wouldn't bat an eyelid if they started getting "relocated to the East" - I have two kids and once they started to go mask off with this "we're coming for your children" shit, and even more so when faggot leftist shitholes started this "Troon Sanctuary" shit, thats when I started thinking of them less as a mildly amusing freak show and more as a potential threat, its the thought one of those sick fucks could get their brain hooks into your kid, infect them with the mind virus and encourage them to mutilate and destroy themselves, and if they managed to get your kid to one of these Sanctuary shitholes the fucking authorities would help the troon, it turned me from contempt to absolute hatred.

These creatures are never content with live and let live, they demand total subservience and they push their way in and infest anything they are not actively kept out of.
If you don't despise the troon cult by now you're not paying attention.
I'm sure there are some good ones, they're the ones you don't hear about, the ones that get on with their lives and want to be left alone and leave everyone else alone, but the "Transgender Movement" as a whole is absolute evil, and troons who make it the focus of their identity are depraved. It's a cult that's built around sexual perversion, body mutilation, and hatred of decency and morality.
Take a look at a modern "Pride" Parade and tell me it isn't a celebration of evil and perversion.

 

[thegooddoctor]

Although I must admit I threw a few trashcans at your early posts about 'dysphoria being caused by wrong brain sex', because it's really a principle I don't agree with and I'll stand against that regardless. I can accept that some transgender people are nice, but I treat them as what a devout religious person might be, and that they still deserves basic human needs. However I don't find identity affirmation to be part of it, nor I think our secular state should promote this particular religion. I also find the beliefs of 'transmedicalists' to be more insidious than tucutes and grifters since it hinges on the promotion of scientific misunderstanding as truth, and how much medicine is now an uncriticisable authority.

Yeah I completely get this, people are going out of there way to be as stupidly cruel as possible and I get why, but like we forget that we do choose the worst examples to provide humour for. The ones we go for are trans lolcows and the worst stuff you see in news articles and in meme photos which would be bad people even if they had no trans views at all.

I have absolutely met some Nice trans people that do not stay terminally online and are just lonely people who have maybe even been the recipient of sexual abuse themselves as a child. I think people do go over themselves because of the trolly shitposty nature of this place. Like most normal people are not really as conservative as us obviously and saying shit like this irl obviously would get you get the shit kicked out of you elsewhere, if there was more serious discussion in a more reserved and calm manner instead of so much vitriolic garbage sometimes and easy jokes maybe people would take us more seriously.

But seriously I myself personally don’t really understand transgenderism much myself, I still do not agree that all of them are necessarily bad. There are good ones that are just keeping to themselves or like I said have been victimised through trauma those I do feel sorry for. You can hate the movement and the perverted shit, that I understand. But trans people are still other human beings and telling everyone to kill themselves is obviously not helpful and makes you look like a cunt no matter what. Unless there true cunts like any of the tranny lolcows (keffals, Liz dong, Lily orchard, plenty of others etc) by all means go for it but if they seem like chill cool people they deserve to be treated as such.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Unless there true cunts like any of the tranny lolcows (keffals, Liz dong, Lily orchard, plenty of others etc) by all means go for it but if they seem like chill cool people they deserve to be treated as such.

You've got a good heart and you're far more willing to see good in these people than I am.
Personally I find troons disgusting, I do however take people as individuals, and if someone doesn't make the tranny shit their sole identity, keeps whatever shit that should be private, private and behind closed doors, doesn't try to push that shit on other people, and most importantly, keeps far, far away from children with their troon ideas, I'm pretty live and let live.
The problem is the majority of the troons with an Internet presence that get noticed get noticed for being sickos.
The "Good Ones" that keep themselves to themselves I have no problem with. I still think they're weird and there are better ways of dealing with body dysmorphia than pandering to delusions but if they keep it to themselves I don't see how there's a problem.
Even the quiet ones though often want things that there can be no compromise on, like access to women's bathrooms/changing rooms, and being able to recruit others to the transgender cult, (and it is a cult) that's when there starts to be a problem.
Guys like Richard O'Brien, for instance (the writer of the Rocky Horror Picture Show) that know they aren't really women, and aren't into pushing that shit on others, are ok in my books.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

Someone can believe the concept of transgenderism to be a total bunk while having sympathy to them as human.

I think this is the most important misunderstanding/problem in the whole troon debate. As a right winger myself I feel bad for most troons, theyre functional people who are fucked by society every which way and succumb to it. And as they succumb to it their mind becomes mush as they start to understand the world less, theyre less rational, they can form less rational thoughts, they almost lose their humanity. There are good troons out there, ones who are the complete opposite and know that one part of their psychology has fucked up massively but that doesnt define who they are and they wont force other people to acknowledge it as normal. In the business we tend to call that self awareness and rationality. Most troons arent that and they want to change the world forcibly to accept them and their nebulous deranged concepts/psychology, not just tolerate but accept 200%. Theyre still humans, theyre just mentally ill and promoting the mental illness as an encouraged way of life is just completely deranged. The other aisle will never understand that cause to them everything and anything should be encouraged, they are incapable of distinguishing things and behaviors. Theyd give fucking robots rights and priority over humans tomorrow if robots conform to their standards of behavior and display humanity not realizing the stupidity of it. Sometimes discrimination is good cause there are legitimate reasons to do so and saying those reasons are illegitimate cause theyre social constructs or eugenics or whatever the fuck is stupid.

 

[Android raptor]

I think you just identified why I truly began to despise them and wouldn't bat an eyelid if they started getting "relocated to the East" - I have two kids and once they started to go mask off with this "we're coming for your children" shit, and even more so when faggot leftist shitholes started this "Troon Sanctuary" shit, thats when I started thinking of them less as a mildly amusing freak show and more as a potential threat, its the thought one of those sick fucks could get their brain hooks into your kid, infect them with the mind virus and encourage them to mutilate and destroy themselves, and if they managed to get your kid to one of these Sanctuary shitholes the fucking authorities would help the troon, it turned me from contempt to absolute hatred.

These creatures are never content with live and let live, they demand total subservience and they push their way in and infest anything they are not actively kept out of.
If you don't despise the troon cult by now you're not paying attention.
I'm sure there are some good ones, they're the ones you don't hear about, the ones that get on with their lives and want to be left alone and leave everyone else alone, but the "Transgender Movement" as a whole is absolute evil, and troons who make it the focus of their identity are depraved. It's a cult that's built around sexual perversion, body mutilation, and hatred of decency and morality.
Take a look at a modern "Pride" Parade and tell me it isn't a celebration of evil and perversion.

If you think trans people are bad for kids, wait til you hear about how the religious right treats kids (especially girls).

The last Pride Parade I was in was fine, and didn't feature anything particularly evil or perverted (beyond some corporations anyway). I don't think people clutching pearls about pride parades have ever actually been to or watched one.

 

[TruffleSpark]

If you think trans people are bad for kids, wait til you hear about how the religious right treats kids (especially girls).

Does anyone remember when the liberal shutdown to an argument was to accuse your opponent of "whataboutism"? How did liberals go from that to "you claim that it's bad when one group of people groom children, but what about other groups that groom children?" It's not a zero sum game people, criticizing one group isn't a tacit endorsement of another.

 

[Procrastinhater]

If you think trans people are bad for kids, wait til you hear about how the religious right treats kids (especially girls).

The last Pride Parade I was in was fine, and didn't feature anything particularly evil or perverted (beyond some corporations anyway). I don't think people clutching pearls about pride parades have ever actually been to or watched one.

Yeah religious extremists are their own type of fucked up, but that entire argument is a deflection and a whataboutism, it has nothing to do with the subject, one group of people doing harm doesn't make another group doing harm any less sick and evil, and I'm not saying every single person at one of those parades is a creep, but you can't deny the imense amount of disgusting footage thats come from these fucking Slaanesh festivals, old dudes standing naked with boners staring at kids, faggots gyrating and rubbing themselves on each other, freaks in rubber suits and gimp masks, creeps in dog face masks on leads, you're telling me this shit isn't sick?

And troons are bad for kids, how many times now is it one of these "Drag Story Hour" fucks has been exposed as an actual registered sex offender? Because I can think of over a dozen off the top of my head. They get their mind hooks into vulnerable children and love bomb them into joining a fucking cult thats based on body mutilation. The transgender movement operates and acts as a cult in all ways except one, they don't have a central leader. All the rest of it, in group/out group thinking, lovebombing, isolation from family and friends outside the cult, ostracization of "suppresive persons' (detransitioners)...
Not sure how you can defend that shit.

 

[Android raptor]

Yeah religious extremists are their own type of fucked up, but that entire argument is a deflection and a whataboutism, it has nothing to do with the subject, one group of people doing harm doesn't make another group doing harm any less sick and evil, and I'm not saying every single person at one of those parades is a creep, but you can't deny the imense amount of disgusting footage thats come from these fucking Slaanesh festivals, old dudes standing naked with boners staring at kids, faggots gyrating and rubbing themselves on each other, freaks in rubber suits and gimp masks, creeps in dog face masks on leads, you're telling me this shit isn't sick?

And troons are bad for kids, how many times now is it one of these "Drag Story Hour" fucks has been exposed as an actual registered sex offender? Because I can think of over a dozen off the top of my head. They get their mind hooks into vulnerable children and love bomb them into joining a fucking cult thats based on body mutilation. The transgender movement operates and acts as a cult in all ways except one, they don't have a central leader. All the rest of it, in group/out group thinking, lovebombing, isolation from family and friends outside the cult, ostracization of "suppresive persons' (detransitioners)...
Not sure how you can defend that shit.

The Southern Baptist Council had a list of 200+ know pedos they were just shitting themselves and doing nothing about, including ones who were allowed to work with children. That's just Southern Baptists and pedos who someone attempted to report (which is something that never happens with most religious pedos). You also have open arranged child marriage happening on the religious right, which is legal in 30+ US states with the GOP fighting to keep it that way.

Call me when people of alphabet have lists of 200+ pedos they're doing nothing about and are openly practicing arranged child marriage.

Btw if you know of old dudes standing naked with boners in front of kids, you need to call the cops. Unless you're a religious official in one of the states that exempts religious officials from mandated reporter laws I guess (exemptions religious groups are fighting hard to keep. Wonder why?)

I'm not convinced the latest wave of gay=pedo fear-mongering isn't fueled once again by the religious right trying to distract from all the kiddie diddling they're getting up to. There are gay people who are pedos since anyone can be a pedo, but what's happening currently is a moral panic and it's not the first time the right has whipped up that moral panic for that reason. Tinfoil but given that is seemed to come out of nowhere last summer, I think specifically this time they're trying to distract normies from the pregnant 10 year old and aforementioned ongoing SBC abuse investigation (last summer it was announced the DOJ was investigating the SBC over it).

I know they aren't thrilled about the Duggar/IBLP docuseries that just dropped either, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the IBLP has also thrown some cash at righty rags to REEEEEEEEEEE about gay people in hopes it distracts normies enough to keep them from watching and talking about them being a pedo cult (especially since the IBLP has a surprising amount of influence on mainstream right wing politics).

 

[Procrastinhater]

I know you have this huge hate boner for "the religious right" but again, its a whataboutism, its completely irrelevant to the point.

Spoiler: Pedos and Drag Shows and Gimp Suits, oh my!

You really think it would be hard to find 200+ alphabet people on the sex offender register?
That fucking San Francisco Choir that sang that "We're Coming for your Children" song has about 15 to start with, but its just another strawman. I'm not saying all LGB whatevers are pedos, what I'm saying is that trannies shouldn't be allowed near children.
I also like how you totally ignored the bit about faggots gyrating and rubbing themselves against each other and guys wearing gimp suits, dog face masks and creepy shit like that at these "Pride Parades". The naked old dude with the boner was from a video posted I think in the Tranny Sideshows thread just a couple weeks ago.

Again, you want to try to defend that shit without some irrelevant strawman about "the religious right?"
Religious fanatics are fucking weirdos too, doesn't make the shit that goes on at these parades any less gross.

I've got no problem with the majority of LGB people. I don't give a fuck who you're attracted to, doesn't affect or interest me, what I have a problem with is displays of perversion and fetish behavior in public. It's degenerate exhibitionism for the sake of it, nobody wants to see that sort of shit, and most of the Alphabet folk I know IRL are just as disgusted at that shit as I am, maybe moreso since it's the sort of shit that people like your "religious right" retards use to attack all LGB people, it's the LBG that have the most to object to about open and excessive deviant displays like those Slaanesh Parades because it makes them look bad. The strongest criticisms I've heard about people wearing gimp suits and dog masks in public has been from a gay dude I know, he hates that shit.

Spoiler: LGB without the T

There seems to be an increasing movement among the LGB to seperate themselves from the T, and I can't blame them, because its the T that cause most of the problems, are the most pushy, deviant, and histrionic, and have started to damage the acceptance and opinion that the LGB have taken 40 years to build up.
They've become a millstone that is dragging down public opinion of all of them.
Of course the T are kicking and screaming for that not to happen because they need the LGB as a shield for their bullshit, so that any criticism of Trannies they can strawman as just homophobia and bigotry. Its harder for Troons to hide behind that shield when its the LGB that are doing the criticizing.

 

[Android raptor]

I know you have this huge hate boner for "the religious right" but again, its a whataboutism, its completely irrelevant to the point.

Spoiler: Pedos and Drag Shows and Gimp Suits, oh my!

You really think it would be hard to find 200+ alphabet people on the sex offender register?
That fucking San Francisco Choir that sang that "coming for you children" song has about 15 to start with, but its just another strawman. I'm not saying all LGB whatevers are pedos, what I'm saying is that trannies shouldn't be allowed near children.
I also like how you totally ignored the bit about faggots gyrating and rubbing themselves against each other and guys wearing gimp suits, dog face masks and creepy shit like that at these "Pride Parades". The naked old dude with the boner was from a video posted I think in the Tranny Sideshows thread just a couple weeks ago.

Again, you want to try to defend that shit without some irrelevant strawman about "the religious right?"
Religious fanatics are fucking weirdos too, doesn't make the shit that goes on at these parades any less gross.

I've got no problem with the majority of LGB people. I don't give a fuck who you're attracted to, doesn't affect or interest me, what I have a problem with is displays of perversion and fetish behavior in public. It's degenerate exhibitionism for the sake of it, nobody wants to see that sort of shit, and most of the Alphabet folk I know IRL are just as disgusted at that shit as I am, maybe moreso since it's the sort of shit that people like your "religious right" retards use to attack all LGB people, it's the LBG that have the most to object to about open and excessive deviant displays like those Slaanesh Parades because it makes them look bad. The strongest criticisms I've heard about people wearing gimp suits and dog masks in public has been from a gay dude I know, he hates that shit.

I'm not sure what pride parades you're attending, but I've never seen that shit at any of the ones I've been in or watched.

 

[Incel Death Note]

I know they aren't thrilled about the Duggar/IBLP docuseries that just dropped either, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the IBLP has also thrown some cash at righty rags to REEEEEEEEEEE about gay people in hopes it distracts normies enough to keep them from watching and talking about them being a pedo cult (especially since the IBLP has a surprising amount of influence on mainstream right wing politics).

You think a Christian non-profit is bribing people to pretend to be angry about pedophiles taking their kids to gay strip clubs in an attempt to distract the public from watching an Amazon Prime documentary about Josh Duggar?

 

[Procrastinhater]

I'm not sure what pride parades you're attending, but I've never seen that shit at any of the ones I've been in or watched.

Yeah, I'm not even gonna contest that, obviously the most extreme cases are the ones that get the most attention, they're not all going to be like the most degenerate parts of the San Francisco or Portland ones.
The only time I saw one in person there was none of that shit, just people marching with signs and shit. I didn't stick around but thats just because I've never been into any type of parade thing, just not my thing.
You can find plenty of footage of weird shit, but again, the most extreme shit is always going to get the most attention.
I'm not saying its the majority even, just that when that shit does occur, it should get called out and the sickos doing it kicked out.

 

[Android raptor]

You think a Christian non-profit is bribing people to pretend to be angry about pedophiles taking their kids to gay strip clubs in an attempt to distract the public from watching an Amazon Prime documentary about Josh Duggar?

Yeah I think it's possible, because if you watch the series you'll learn the cult actually has a lot of money and influence, like a surprising amount. It's also about a lot more than just Josh Duggar torrenting toddler snuff.

If you know of pedos taking kids to strip clubs, you need to call the cops. That's certainly not something any LGBTQ person I know would be ok with.

Yeah, I'm not even gonna contest that, obviously the most extreme cases are the ones that get the most attention, they're not all going to be like the most degenerate parts of the San Francisco or Portland ones.
The only time I saw one in person there was none of that shit, just people marching with signs and shit. I didn't stick around but thats just because I've never been into any type of parade thing, just not my thing.
You can find plenty of footage of weird shit, but again, the most extreme shit is always going to get the most attention.
I'm not saying its the majority even, just that when that shit does occur, it should get called out and the sickos doing it kicked out.

The footage I've seen is either from adults-only events or the same handful of genuinely questionable shit right wingers have been passing around for the better part of a decade. It really isn't the norm for pride parades at all, certainly not enough to act like it's a huge issue happening everywhere.

LGBTQ pedos exist, but really aren't more common than pedos in the general public. And the LGBTQ community overwhelmingly has the same reaction to them as everyone else, disgust and hate.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

One can feel bad for trannies who were groomed or brainwashed into mutilating their genitals while still recognizing that the community at large is a threat to children and a healthy society. Despite what singular individuals may think or say, the broader community is not willing to settle into a live and let live mentality, at least not how normal people conceptualize it. The transgender community's idea of live and let live is to be allowed to talk to young children about sex, parade their fetishes in public, facilitate kids' transitions, and remove kids from their parents if the parents try to interfere. Tolerating this community is simply not an option in a sane society.

There are various reasons someone might transition but they all involve some level of mental illness and very often attention-seeking and validation are some of the primary motivators. Which is why it's funny to laugh at them.

You can launch into some big discussion of child abuse or grooming within religious circles (which exists for sure) but that's frankly completely irrelevant to the troon issue.

 

[Android raptor]

This might come as a shock, but most trans people have the same reaction to pedophilia as everyone else. I said earlier ITT, but pedotroons are overly online and many are in high places, so they're overly loud and visible online as opposed to normie trans people that don't really have any notable internet presence (which is most of them).

None of the trans people I've known take kindly to kiddie diddling, and I've known at least one who seriously contemplated tracking down/murdering a pedo they knew of.

Kids transitioning beyond socially is pretty controversial even in the trans community, and support for prepubescent kids being allowed to undergo medical transition would still be seen as an extremist view. Most kids wanting to transition are pubescent girls anyway, and the reasons that's happening include a lot of issues far beyond trans people existing and kids knowing they exist (and does include pedophilia since pedophilia against pubescent girls is sadly common).

FYI, when people talk about sex ed for young children, they're typically referring to proper body part names and good touch/bad touch stuff. Shit kids need to know to stay safe from pedos and get help if someone does hurt them.

 

[Procrastinhater]

This might come as a shock, but most trans people have the same reaction to pedophilia as everyone else. I said earlier ITT, but pedotroons are overly online and many are in high places, so they're overly loud and visible online as opposed to normie trans people that don't really have any notable internet presence (which is most of them).

It seems to be an unfortunate reality that the loudest and most obnoxious people are the ones that inevitably get the most attention, I think in the case of trannies that means it's the horror show AGP types that you find on the Sideshows thread or shitting up Twitter.

 

[Android raptor]

It seems to be an unfortunate reality that the loudest and most obnoxious people are the ones that inevitably get the most attention, I think in the case of trannies that means it's the horror show AGP types that you find on the Sideshows thread or shitting up Twitter.

Yeah and those are people that spend pretty much every waking moment online, so they make a lot of noise and can drown everything else out easily. Plus some are exceptionally privileged and well connected like Consent Accident (a self-proclaimed millionaire born into a wealthy family).