💬 Off-Topic "The Good Ones" - For the 1% of trannies that pass and/or aren't otherwise fucking insane

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Who's that one British tranny with the horror movie review/interpretation channel? I enjoy his content, and I don't think he ever talks about being trans or is explicitly out, you can just tell by the way he looks.

He seems ok. I think he's pretty funny and insightful.
 
I've been of the opinion for quite some time that the transgender disorder is actually real and that it is so rare that the vast majority of the weirdos that we see online are perverted loser men and depressed young women that are disgusted with the way men treat them. Because actual transgender people are pretty damn rare, I have no problem making fun of the fetishists we see plastered all over the farms. The biggest problem is that there is no easy agreed upon word to refer to the fetishists, so words like "tranny" get used (I often use it myself), and both categories get conflated to the point that people deny that there is a distinction.

Really, I hope that the woke cult and the tranny grift wane so that actual transgender people can get help and that we see less of these disgusting fetishists. Fat chance of that though.
Personally I have come to conclusion that that while discomfort they about their gender feel can be real but the treatment should never been transitioning because their gender isn't the problem. I have talked with multiple trans people in IRL and online, and even perfectly reasonable trans people describing themselves and their issues sounds hollow as far as gender goes. It's just hating expectations or features that they get obsessed about rather than those actually causing harm or fear they feel. Most of the time those obstacles aren't that bad, just unpleasant but they take them sign of something bigger and get super stressed out.

I think what they are going trough is just body dysmorphia and anxiety. Nothing special or unique, even if it's a real mental health problem. They needs the same treatment as other body dysmorphias like anorexia. Witch is to prevent harm until their mind can aligned with reality and they can be thought good stress management skills.
 
Can't agree with this idea that mental disorders relating to transgenderism (or the majority of mental disorders for that matter) can just be coped away if you cope hard enough. It's possible to have early-onset, long-lasting, intense tranny thoughts. Then it becomes like trying to cure dyslexia, colorblindness or diabetes by pretending you don't have it. The trans debate climate would be a lot better off if people admitted that they just find trannies disgusting and would rather not risk accidentally dating a girl who has a pickle, instead of faking concern for the tranny's welfare and mental health by telling them to avoid transition at any cost.
I'm from a country that there are a lot of people who transitioned. It's not about disgust. The difference between here and the west is that they treat transitioning as more of a lifestyle instead of psychiatric urgency. They don't transition because they experience intense, unbearable hatred of their body, but because they want to live and look a certain way. Until the last few years, pople who transitioned here don't really consider themselves to be an equivalent to actual female. They might look 'stealth' to the western eyes, but in truth, they care less about 'passing', and more about being pretty. Although of course, American cultural export via social media hit us hard.

Our psychiatry has the concept of culture bond syndromes, but this concept seem to be only applied to those uneducated yokels from third world countries - while a lot of 'proper' psychiatric diagnosis doesn't always manifest the same way in those culture?

The reason I'm opposed to these stuff because I don't like cultural trend being paraded as 'science'. It's an insidious authoritarianism. In an 'open authoritarianism', you might get shot if you speak against the government, but you might acknowledge the tyranny in secret, but this kind of insidious control make people think social control as a natural fact.
Personally I have come to conclusion that that while discomfort they about their gender feel can be real but the treatment should never been transitioning because their gender isn't the problem. I have talked with multiple trans people in IRL and online, and even perfectly reasonable trans people describing themselves and their issues sounds hollow as far as gender goes. It's just hating expectations or features that they get obsessed about rather than those actually causing harm or fear they feel. Most of the time those obstacles aren't that bad, just unpleasant but they take them sign of something bigger and get super stressed out.

I think what they are going trough is just body dysmorphia and anxiety. Nothing special or unique, even if it's a real mental health problem. They needs the same treatment as other body dysmorphias like anorexia. Witch is to prevent harm until their mind can aligned with reality and they can be thought good stress management skills.
I agree with this too. It just seem to be very difficult for people to fathom that cultural concepts we have are not necessarily rooted in a natural category. Most people in the discourse are encouraged to think in the extreme - but they're on the same sliding scale of a paradigm. So when they thought about the moderate position, "true trans" must exist. like we're in a room, and we're arguing how the room is oppressive and how we should decorate the room to make it better without the realisation that you can leave the room too.
 
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Even the good ones I've met are still very mentally ill.
 
Idk if this is a good place, but as a vidya game enjoyer I have a couple of trans people whom I am just sad about, cuz I cannot imagine the trans thing improved their life.

One is Lena Raine, he's been mentioned. I guess his life was improved by being trans by Minecraft licensing his music as a pretty transparent fuck-you to Notch. (Or I guess "corporate image control", cuz Microsoft doesn't have personal feelings towards Notch). Celeste is also a very good game, later shoehorned in trans message notwithstanding. (Now they claim it's a game about gender dysphoria or some shit, when it is very clearly a game about failing at life and being depressed and everyone read it is as that! sorry I'm MATI)

One is a cool indie developer, forgot the true name but he goes by Talia bob Mar now or something. Made Brutal Orchestra and Perfect Vermin - it was before the whole gender thing, although some dev on Brutal Orchestra was after. Has a documented history of crushing depression and desires to cease to exist, and also is transparently an autistic nerd. Feels like alast-ditch effort before eating a bullet, and this saddens me.
 
One is Lena Raine, he's been mentioned. I guess his life was improved by being trans by Minecraft licensing his music as a pretty transparent fuck-you to Notch. (Or I guess "corporate image control", cuz Microsoft doesn't have personal feelings towards Notch).
Didn't know Lena Raine was a tranny.

It's also a subtle fuck-you to C418, because Microsoft weren't able to gain ownership of C418's music, and when they asked him, he told them to go fuck themselves, and hence there's no new C418 music in Minecraft besides the ones he licensed to Notch way back when. You'll notice that C418 still owns all the rights to his music, whereas Microsoft owns all the rights to Lena Raine's music. Here's a good video about this by SalC1.
Celeste is also a very good game, later shoehorned in trans message notwithstanding. (Now they claim it's a game about gender dysphoria or some shit, when it is very clearly a game about failing at life and being depressed and everyone read it is as that! sorry I'm MATI)
They did the same shit with The Matrix too.
One is a cool indie developer, forgot the true name but he goes by Talia bob Mar now or something. Made Brutal Orchestra and Perfect Vermin - it was before the whole gender thing, although some dev on Brutal Orchestra was after. Has a documented history of crushing depression and desires to cease to exist, and also is transparently an autistic nerd. Feels like alast-ditch effort before eating a bullet, and this saddens me.
His true name might be Maceo bob Mair? In any case it's his name before he trooned out to Talia bob Mair. It's what other people are calling him on his LinkedIn (see the "Recommendations received"), it's what he's credited as on IGN's site, and his itch.io used to be itsthemaceo (but now redirects to itsthetalia).
 
Maceo bob Mair
Maceo, that's right. I've seen it on the game wiki in edit history, much obliged. Either way, yeah, extremely talented dude that's taken the pinkpill option out of depression. Hopefully he can find some actually supportive people instead of validating trannies, and snap out of it eventually before ruining his life. I'dlove to see more of his work.
It's also a subtle fuck-you to C418
I mean, that's less of a fuck-youand more of the game sorely needing a new track, in that case. Sad that C418 wanted nothing to do with M$, I understand his reasons but his recent work is really good.
 
Shoutout to trans people I've met/talked to in passing and at cons and shit that aren't really friends (since I already gave them a shoutout ITT), y'all are also cool.

Tbh most trans people you just see out and about in the real world are chill, shitty overly-online troons are just disproportionately vocal and powerful on the internet (especially since some are incredibly privileged and well-connected like Consent Accident).
 
I think those people just know it's a fetish and sex thing and no part of it involves imposing themselves on other people.

From browsing the trans community, the gay twinks with the fetish for passing as a woman so they can catfish straight guys into bed seem to be the most "functional" of the trannies. Even though they are so consumed by their fetish they mutliate themselves.

When they want to pass, they do all the surgery and train like a lunatic.

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there should be a tranny dérangement thread I swear to take some people down a peg imao.
Part of me thinks this would be a great idea. The other part of me fears that with the current social media climate, most examples would be from here, risking infighting.
 
Gender dysphoria is definitely a real and serious condition, it's just that transition is falsely being sold as a cure, when realistically your dysphoria will just move from whatever you've just had surgified to a different feature, e.g. top surgery to bottom surgery to ffs.

Not all trans people are evil groomers, but even the 'good' ones I've met have had a deep streak of selfishness & self-obsession, which makes them unpleasant to be around in general.

I don't think any opposite-sex person at any stage of transition should be put in prison with their opposite sex, even if they're being kept in isolation. Yes that will make the mtfs more potentially vulnerable but that's their bloody problem. & if they were genuinely being kept completely isolated ... then they can genuinely be kept completely isolated in a men's prison.

From what I remember, there was an example of mtfs being kept in a separate wing at a women's prison - they still had to be let out for exercise, in their own yard that adjoined the women's yard in one corner, and the TIMs immediately focused on clustering in that corner and trying to reach through the fence or yelling obscenities so the women could hear them.

Hunter Schafer is an all-round medium looking young white male, what makes him stand out at all is the fact that he's pretending to be a woman, which is why he's doing it. You wouldn't notice him if he wasn't.

Agree with the last couple of pages' discussion about kiwis (and elsewhere) going full barrel screaming hate on trans when it's not always warranted. I think there's benefit to making fun of transes - so they can realise how they actually appear to other people - and there's benefit to having vent spaces, because of course everyone is fed up with this shit, but I think a lot of the particularly vulgar stuff is ego-stroking: look at me, I hate the transes much more than you! you would never go as far as I would! and then they all just egg each other on to go further and further.
 
I'm not opposed to trans women in female prisons, however I don't think it should be an option for people locked up for crimes against women/children, especially people who only decided they were ladies after getting locked up (i.e. predators looking for a loophole to gain access to new victims).

A post-op passing trans woman in prison for having weed while black, sure (especially since she probably would be in danger in men's prison). Yaniv types, not so much.

Unfortunately no one seems to want to acknowledge that this really is an issue that needs to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, no blanket laws in any direction are really a great solution to this complicated problem imo

Same with transitioning, it's vital treatment for some people, but we need more thorough evaluation of all possible causes of the person's symptoms before giving the OK for serious medical treatment. Same as how you wouldn't want to put someone on lithium (which can do permanent organ damage) without being as sure as possible the person is bipolar and would benefit from the medication.
 
From browsing the trans community, the gay twinks with the fetish for passing as a woman so they can catfish straight guys into bed seem to be the most "functional" of the trannies. Even though they are so consumed by their fetish they mutliate themselves.

When they want to pass, they do all the surgery and train like a lunatic.

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If the bar for considering a troon the most functioning is that they obsess over surgeries and such with the intent of catfishing straight men into sex that says a hell of alot about the utter insanity of troons. That sounds like a real good way of getting killed. Sooner or later they'll pull that routine on the wrong man and it won't end well for them

That said, whoever that is in the pics doesn't pass that well. Especially in the second one. The body language and body structure, especially around the shoulders is off and is very male. Even the other pics are slightly off in a noticeable way, in the very literal 'this isn't a woman, its somebodies impression of what a woman is who can't quite pull it off.' Its the same issue the troons that go full bimbo have, its just more obvious with them because of they go overboard with everything. Fundamentally the same problems are there.

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Agree with the last couple of pages' discussion about kiwis (and elsewhere) going full barrel screaming hate on trans when it's not always warranted.
You fell into the trap of believing there are good ones and bad ones. There aren't. The 'good ones' if there ever were any enable the bad ones. Its how activists work. They allow themselves to be used and refuse to distance themselves from or kick out the psychos, narcissists and predators despite knowing full well the troon community is absolutely infested with them and they parrot the same 'everyone who says anything about it is a right wing bigot' line the bad ones do. So they're just as responsible. Lay down with dogs and you'll get fleas. Allow a bunch of pedos, grifters and predators into your community as one of you and expect to be treated the same as the rest of them
 
It's easy: How long until they mention they are trans? Could be putting up a Pride Tree in the front lawn, or not even bothering to pass, or talking about how Sam Brinton dindu nothing.

How much of their identity is wrapped up in being trans?

I've known trans who got their surgery, take their hormones, and moved on with life. They don't play the victim card all the time or take June off to go on daily pride marches. They don't molest kids.

They are overwhelmed by asshole trans who are doing it because it's popular and they are broken mentally. I wish more spoke up.
 
I don't think putting up pride decorations or not passing is an issue (especially when passing requires expensive surgeries). The issue is people like keffals and Dong-Jones, who use their trans status to try and get away with shitty and sexually predatory behavior.

The trans people who have threads would still be bad people if they weren't trans. That's something that's important to remember.
 
Part of me thinks this would be a great idea. The other part of me fears that with the current social media climate, most examples would be from here, risking infighting.
It absolutely should be a thread, like be honest regardless of all the good points people make towards hating on troons/trans whatever you want to call it, the farms has become such an echo chamber to this particular view that some people are almost comedic in their hatred. Like honestly to claim that kiwis don’t have any confirmation bias towards these groups is a little ridiculous considering how schizo/cruel we can be. (telling people to kill themselves even if they are unpleasant is a bit much)

like so much of it is mired in elitism I think like people just egg each other on to try and outdo each other in hating them, honestly the great aspect about the farms is that virtually anyone can be made fun of including our own user base, So honestly I think it should count.
 
Genuinely curious: Is there a single positive generalization that could be made about trannies as a group, along the lines of "Jews are good with money" or "Ethiopians dominate distance running"?

People ITT have talked about what they consider token good individuals in a sea of bad people. But what about token good traits, common within a group whose traits are mostly bad?
 
Genuinely curious: Is there a single positive generalization that could be made about trannies as a group, along the lines of "Jews are good with money" or "Ethiopians dominate distance running"?

People ITT have talked about what they consider token good individuals in a sea of bad people. But what about token good traits, common within a group whose traits are mostly bad?
Strong jaw lines and above average computer skills?
 
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