The Gun Control Debate Thread - Controlling autism since 2022

The Foxtrot said:
Ignoring your unrelated and incorrect political sperging, what "willful ignorance" am I displaying?
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That means he doesn't understand the difference between a military P-90, MP5 and a civilian PS-90, SP-5, just assume you're pretending to be ignorant.

It's kind of funny he use MP7 as one of examples. If you're familiar with US firearms market then you'll know it is almost impossible for a private gun owner in the US to get a HK MP7. HK has never produced a civilian version of that gun and exported it to the US, only military/police/research institutions or firearm dealers in the states can get their hands on them.
 
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独人13 said:
That means he doesn't understand the difference between a military P-90, MP5 and a civilian PS-90, SP-5, just assume you're pretending to be ignorant.

It's kind of funny he use MP7 as one of examples. If you're familiar with US firearms market then you'll know it is almost impossible for a private gun owner in the US to get a HK MP7. HK has never produced a civilian version of that gun and exported it to the US, only military/police/research institutions or firearm dealers in the states can get their hands on them.
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Oh I'm well aware. Some of the guns he talks about are just flat-out impossible for a normal civilian to legally acquire (like the MP7), others are extraordinarily expensive. For example, I can get a PTR-91 for around $1,200 or so. But an actual Bundeswehr-issued H&K G3 battle rifle? That'll be a $900 tax stamp, a 6 month background check, and around $45,000 for the rifle itself. Also, that rifle won't be any younger than the year 1986, so the parts will be worn out on it.

Also @What the shit, it's not for any "what if", I target shoot and drill a lot. And shoot pests like feral hogs.
 
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The Foxtrot said:
What does this have to do with anything? Not really proving your point here, "lefty who knows his stuff", when you're just repeating tired old gutter insults and lies.
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I just like to see how much gunfags are humorless liars, with an infantile complex and dumb to boot. You are the second one today who said that you are arming yourself more because of me. Kinda like a teenager going "NO DADDY I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO LINKING PARK EVERYDAY SINCE YOU HATE IT SO MUCH"

Handle YOUR inferiority complex. And learn to spell "Zalinsky" right.
 
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Justtocheck said:
I just like to see how much gunfags are humorless liars, with an infantile complex and dumb to boot. You are the second one today who said that you are arming yourself more because of me. Kinda like a teenager going "NO DADDY I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO LINKING PARK EVERYDAY SINCE YOU HATE IT SO MUCH"

Handle YOUR inferiority complex. And learn to spell "Zalinsky" right.
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I have no inferiority complex, I simply refuse to give up my way of life because some whiny idiot demands it. And tell me where's the lie?

Да здравствует наша Русская Родина! Смерть Украине!
 
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Dyn said:
That's what amendments are for. If a bunch of guys in 1776 said "you can have any weapon you want" but all they knew about were muskets and swords, it's probably a really good idea to amend it when you invent something that can render your entire country uninhabitable for 50,000 years.
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Amendments aren't easy to pass. And the notion that some of the most intelligent people at the time didn't foresee technological advancements is absurd, not just because they were intelligent and forward thinking people, but because technological advancements were being made at the time too. They weren't cavemen.

The only thing they may not have foreseen was the escalation of mental illness, I doubt in their wildest dreams they expected lunatics to routinely shoot up public places. That's not an argument against gun ownership though, it's an indictment of our culture and efforts in tackling the root of that problem (instead we're actually exacerbating it).

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They're pretty much forced to infringe it right now because there are weapons so powerful that everyone in the world agrees that letting people freely own them would be completely unacceptable, but constitution is still very clear that your right to own weapons shall not be infringed. If you give SC the leeway to say "look okay obviously they wouldn't have meant hydrogen bombs or weaponised glanders", why can't they say "also machineguns"? Why can't they say "also six-shot revolvers". Nobody knew shit about any of them when the 2a was written, so the same logic applies to each argument and all that really changes is just how gun-friendly the SC justices happen to be at any given time.

If you don't rewrite the 2a to be more specific, you can only interpret it to mean Ahmed-fresh-off-the-boat gets to bring a dirty bomb with him, or your constitutional right to own anything more modern than a bronze cannon is more of a guideline than a rule. Anything inbetween is left up to 'common sense', which means the SC is empowered to write laws instead of just interpret them.
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What's wrong with common sense? Without it you can just interpret "bear arms" as the arms of bears. Leftists seem to love the idea of erasing our ability to naturally distinguish between good and bad, true and false.

The notion of self-evidence even exists within the Declaration of Independence, so you can't just dismiss it as being an inadequate method of process. Although imperfect, the solution isn't to replace it, the solution is to ensure unreasonable people do not attain positions of power. That's why equality and equity are retarded concepts, but I digress.
 
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Justtocheck said:
Another rule of thumb would be, if you can use it as a primary in any modern FPS, then it's an assault weapon.
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So OP! Much "asSAulT wEapOn!"
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(also, FPS's generally dont offer AR15s. They offer M16s and M4s. So we're in the clear. 👍)
 
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Justtocheck said:
Another rule of thumb would be, if you can use it as a primary in any modern FPS, then it's an assault weapon.

Hunting shotguns or rifles, some revolvers and some handguns can be argued as having legit legal purposes though.

@Anti-Intellectual lol, have no arguments and now resorting to threats? lol nice.
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You shouldn't be talking in this conversation about guns to begin with.
you clearly think an assault weapon is a real catagory, You can't tell the difference between self loading and automatic. Chances are you don't know the difference between a clip or a magazine. Lastly the fact you know this little about guns is utterly saddening. But hey if you want to get your anus proverbially destroyed every single time you post in this thread be my guest.

I'm fairly sure getting lectured ok guns by someone who knows little is bad for you and good for me.

Justtocheck said:
Be a man and use a bow and arrow.
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A guns more useful, Even a musket is more useful then a bow as you have not only a firearm but a man with a spear. I dunno if you've ever done archery but after firing and drawing a boy for several times you will become exhausted. In fact it took years even a decades to produce proficient archers.

All of those archers which you guessed it got replaced by men with muskets. I will use the most effective tool for the job you can talk about being a "real man" but chances are your probably someone with a baby dick projecting onto right wingers because people like you only know that one dick joke because you're insecure about your penis size.


((Sorry for the double post but it was worth it.))
 

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LeChampion1992 said:
You shouldn't be talking in this conversation about guns to begin with.
you clearly think an assault weapon is a real catagory, You can't tell the difference between self loading and automatic. Chances are you don't know the difference between a clip or a magazine. Lastly the fact you know this little about guns is utterly saddening. But hey if you want to get your anus proverbially destroyed every single time you post in this thread be my guest.

I'm fairly sure getting lectured ok guns by someone who knows little is bad for you and good for me.
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You do realize I have posted sources in TFB tv and I'm subscribed? I also watch most of guntube, (Paul Harrell, Garand thumb, forgotten weapons and in range Tv) You are too quick to judge my man and ignore your oposition when they don't fit your preconceived world view.

By the way, there's nothing gay about the gun community.
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Justtocheck said:
You do realize I have posted sources in TFB tv and I'm subscribed? I also watch most of guntube, (Paul Harrell, Garand thumb, forgotten weapons and in range Tv) You are too quick to judge my man and ignore your oposition when they don't fit your preconceived world view.

By the way, there's nothing gay about the gun community.
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I mean what's wrong with gay people owning guns. If Nazis own guns it's only sporting that faggots be allowed to own guns too.

Sounds like you're a commie little bitch too afraid of freedom.
But I'll just leave you with bill Cosby staring into you anti gunner soul.
 

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Useful_Mistake said:
I don't understand how there could be mass shooting that just happened in Denmark. They have super strict gun control laws, and Dyn told me that makes shootings like that disappear.
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Woof, fresh news. Apparenly it was only a hunting rifle. Only 3 dead apparenly. Imagine how bad it would have been with an assault rifle like an AK or AR platform. In fact, this is proof that rifles, even for hunting, should be even more highly controlled.
 
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Woof, fresh news. Apparenly it was only a hunting rifle. Only 3 dead apparenly. Imagine how bad it would have been with an assault rifle like an AK or AR platform. In fact, this is proof that rifles, even for hunting, should be even more highly controlled.
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"This is why you need to disarm, because bad people do bad things, and you don't wanna be a bad person with a gun, right?!"
-You, thinking all gun owners are bad.
 
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The Foxtrot said:
"This is why you need to disarm, because bad people do bad things, and you don't wanna be a bad person with a gun, right?!"
-You, thinking all gun owners are bad.
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"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Unless you are in a elementary school in Uvalde."
-Someone, probably.
 
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