The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

[Lemmingwise]

I've seen no evidence of this, so no reason for me to believe it

Just watch the video.

 

[Chugger]

Just watch the video.

I've watched it before and btw Eric Hunt is now entirely orthodox in his holocaust beliefs

if you provide a time stamp I'll check it out though

 

[Null]

Me and my friend have been planning a podcast for a while. Lemmingwise's previous comment turned something on in my brain

>The Kiwi Farms A&N Holocaust Denial Podcast

 

[Bonesjones]

Hey look Chugger is back denying we've proved him wrong and that he's absolutely right again. Just call him a nigger faggot and move on.

 

[Chugger]

Hey look Chugger is back denying we've proved him wrong and that he's absolutely right again. Just call him a nigger faggot and move on.

Hey how'd you prove me wrong? By affirming something every holocaust historian agrees on--no written Hitler order has been found?

To you this fact disproves genocide, but what if I point to the total lack of evidence for resettlement? No written Hitler order for that either, plus nothing in the hundreds of thousands documents recovered, plus no witness testimonies when there should have been millions of direct witnesses to resettlement.

When I got here a few months ago I think I made a wager that nobody could look closely at 'resettlement' and not come away with serious doubts about the revisionist position. Rapechu was the only who did: he was more committed to the cause and to actual history than any of you, and after examining the revisionist literature I sent him, he had to admit that millions of Jews must have died some way or another.

After his last attempt to show even limited resettlement and my response he promptly disappeared from this forum. I wonder why? Did he crack the code, forcing Mossad to take him out? It's a question I'm asking you guys, maybe my last one on this topic, which appears to have run its course

Rapechu was the best of you all, and now he is gone.

btw podcast is delayed until next week I think sorry

 

[Bonesjones]

Hey how'd you prove me wrong? By affirming something every holocaust historian agrees on--no written Hitler order has been found?

To you this fact disproves genocide, but what if I point to the total lack of evidence for resettlement? No written Hitler order for that either, plus nothing in the hundreds of thousands documents recovered, plus no witness testimonies when there should have been millions of direct witnesses to resettlement.

When I got here a few months ago I think I made a wager that nobody could look closely at 'resettlement' and not come away with serious doubts about the revisionist position. Rapechu was the only who did: he was more committed to the cause and to actual history than any of you, and after examining the revisionist literature I sent him, he had to admit that millions of Jews must have died some way or another.

After his last attempt to show even limited resettlement and my response he promptly disappeared from this forum. I wonder why? Did he crack the code, forcing Mossad to take him out? It's a question I'm asking you guys, maybe my last one on this topic, which appears to have run its course

Rapechu was the best of you all, and now he is gone.

btw podcast is delayed until next week I think sorry

Hey look you finally admit that you can't prove Hitler ever ordered the Holocaust. You must be desperate for attention. Now when are you going to admit you can't prove anyone was ever killed by gassing?

We've also disproven everything you say about settlements or resettlement. You can't prove anything you say to begin with, so trying to answer the follow up questions is even more pointless.

You ignore everything that proves to you wrong, kick over the board and strut around like you've won. This is why you are a nigger faggot.

You only like Rapechu because he pretended to play along the longest, even he got tired of your lame shit.

 

[Marley Rathbone]

I've seen no evidence of this, so no reason for me to believe it

You've been debating on this for 82 pages and you don't even know that the current "gas chambers" are only Soviet "woulda been coulda been" constructions?

 

[Lemmingwise]

You've been debating on this for 82 pages and you don't even know that the current "gas chambers" are only Soviet "woulda been coulda been" constructions?

He's only been here for the last 30 pages or so.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Ahhh, daytime TV. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1488191258598199301.html

 

[Chugger]

We've also disproven everything you say about settlements or resettlement. You can't prove anything you say to begin with, so trying to answer the follow up questions is even more pointless.

You might be able to disprove my assertion that you have no evidence by posting some evidence, but nobody has done that, and you won't do it now

You only like Rapechu because he pretended to play along the longest, even he got tired of your lame shit.

I think Rapechu would have said something like this and ended the discussion (as he did previously) but he just ended up totally bouncing and hasn't been seen on the forum since. He was trending towards orthodoxy anyway. Due to the total dearth of evidence he realized millions must have died, far exceeding the traditional revisionist figure of roughly 500k:

At any rate, I will give a concession as well, I don't think even half of the people the Germans handled survived, for one reason or another, the population of jews was massively devastated by this resettlement.

Rapechu was the best of you because he was more open minded and ultimately curious about history. He didn't bend or ignore facts to suit the narrative even though he was clearly rooting for it and being cheered on by deniers on this board

You've been debating on this for 82 pages and you don't even know that the current "gas chambers" are only Soviet "woulda been coulda been" constructions?

Lemmingwise said the Soviets built "fake gas chambers", so plz post specific evidence if that is your contention. You probably won't respond to this post tho, you almost never do

 

[Bonesjones]

You might be able to disprove my assertion that you have no evidence by posting some evidence, but nobody has done that, and you won't do it now


I think Rapechu would have said something like this and ended the discussion (as he did previously) but he just ended up totally bouncing and hasn't been seen on the forum since. He was trending towards orthodoxy anyway. Due to the total dearth of evidence he realized millions must have died, far exceeding the traditional revisionist figure of roughly 500k:

Rapechu was the best of you because he was more open minded and ultimately curious about history. He didn't bend or ignore facts to suit the narrative even though he was clearly rooting for it and being cheered on by deniers on this board


Lemmingwise said the Soviets built "fake gas chambers", so plz post specific evidence if that is your contention. You probably won't respond to this post tho, you almost never do

Hey look you absolute lying nigger. You said there was no evidence of resettlement anywhere in the east, then I posted the Jewish Autonomous Zone in Siberia, directly proving you wrong. You fucking coward ass liar. YOU GET PROVEN WRONG THEN PIVOT TO SOMETHING ELSE THEN PRETEND WHATEVER YOU POSTED WAS SOMETHING ELSE.

The problem is you are a stupid person. A real retard. I don't need 50 citations to pick apart anything you post, so you just try to dismiss me because I hold you to exactly what you are and say. You can't though because I'm factually correct and you are an idiotic manipulator.

 

[Chugger]

You said there was no evidence of resettlement anywhere in the east, then I posted the Jewish Autonomous Zone in Siberia, directly proving you wrong.

the Nazis didn't resettle the Jews in the JAO and furthermore they weren't even resettled by the Soviets, the Jews went voluntarily

 

[Bonesjones]

the Nazis didn't resettle the Jews in the JAO and furthermore they weren't even resettled by the Soviets, the Jews went voluntarily

So they were alive to be resettled by the Soviets? Damn I guess they weren't holocausted then. You idiot nigger. This is your brain on being a fucking retarded jew.

 

[Chugger]

So they were alive to be resettled by the Soviets? Damn I guess they weren't holocausted then. You idiot nigger. This is your brain on being a fucking retarded jew.

yeah a large segment of Jews (many hundreds of thousands) survived because they managed to flee ahead of the German advance or lived east of the territory the Nazis ended up taking.

 

[Bonesjones]

yeah a large segment of Jews (many hundreds of thousands) survived because they managed to flee ahead of the German advance or lived east of the territory the Nazis ended up taking.

Hey look we've got a holocaust denier, how dare you contradict established factual narrative? All the jews in concentration camps were given the choice to stay or leave with the Germans. Did you forget that? Yes because you are am idiot nigger who can't keep his story straight.

 

[Chugger]

Hey look we've got a holocaust denier, how dare you contradict established factual narrative? All the jews in concentration camps were given the choice to stay or leave with the Germans. Did you forget that? Yes because you are am idiot nigger who can't keep his story straight.

No historian believes the Nazis killed every Jew in the USSR. That is absurd, because the Nazis didn't take over all of USSR

 

[Bonesjones]

No historian believes the Nazis killed every Jew in the USSR. That is absurd, because the Nazis didn't take over all of USSR

Sorry I hope you aren't in Germany, Poland, or any other European country in which holocaust denial is illegal. You've directly contradict establish facts. The retreat of the Germans and the post camp death marches are factual and to say or imply otherwise means you are a denier.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

I just recently got into Holocaust revisionism after watching the 12 and a half hour documentary Europa: The Last Battle. It truly made me astonished to find out that the hyperbolic image of Adolf Hitler remained fact for the masses for over 75 years.

 

[Chugger]

Sorry I hope you aren't in Germany, Poland, or any other European country in which holocaust denial is illegal. You've directly contradict establish facts. The retreat of the Germans and the post camp death marches are factual and to say or imply otherwise means you are a denier.

Where did I say or imply the Germans didn't retreat and death marches didn't happen?

 

[Tree]

The holocaust has been sensationalized and maybe not everything that has been said about what happened in the camps is true, but that's true of any major historical event, not everything that's been said about them is true, stuff often gets sensationalized, doesn't mean these events as a whole didn't still happen.

Holocaust deniers often will point to some dubious thing from some book as a "gotcha!" as if that somehow proves the Holocaust as a whole didn't happen, do you really expect an event that has been written about as much as the Holocaust has not to have a few falsehoods here and there? Again, this is true of any major historical event.

At the end of the day the ultimate proof of the Holocaust is Holocaust deniers themselves, so often is it wrapped up in extreme anti-semitism that you have to ask yourself the question if people like that had the political power to do so, would they not attempt a genocide? Genocide isn't even that rare of an occurrence throughout human history, so take the fact that the Nazis had a lot of open and extreme anti-semitism, look at anti-semitism throughout history and look at the anti-semitism that is still going on today and tell me that it's hard to believe that at some point someone would attempt a genocide of Jews?

Now, with all that said what is frustrating is the political left does exploit the Holocaust as a political tool, they're always using "mic drop" moments like that to try to end discussion like the "kids in cages" thing whenever one talks about Trump for example, it shames the memory of the people that died to use the tragedy as a political tool to try to shut up any debate and discussion.

But of course tragedy is often exploited for political means and it isn't just a left wing thing either, 9/11 was often used by conservatives in the 2000s to try to shut up any dissent over George W Bush and the Iraq war, it's a tacky tactic and in the case of the Holocaust it has given the event a lot of political baggage that shouldn't really be there, which is unfortunate.

But that still doesn't change the fact that it happened.

The ultimate takeaway I think people should have from not just the Holocaust but the Communist genocides as well is the dangers of political extremism of any stripe, when radical ideology clouds people's judgement of basic human decency, innocent people get hurt in large numbers.

Ok ok hold on
"The left" exploits the holocaust for their interests, but that's ok because
"The right" exploited 9/11 for their interests.



See, I'm convinced the holocaust happened because the jews are just that bad. Look at how they've milked it to gain political power over every country that helped them, let alone Germany. It's disgusting how little they care for all the values they demand out of those who they clearly see as inferior. They project everything from supremacy to sociopathy on to others. The propaganda and subversion are endless, undeniable yet unreal. The literal plot of a blockbuster video game series is white people can't be forgiven, in any multiverse, and must die. A childish "no you times infinity". After the war, instead of reflecting on anything they did, they've gone on a cultural crusade against all that could question the way they believe the world should be. They have made it effectively illegal for entities to be right wing. Read about how much influence Freud had in and beyond his field, not despite, but because his work was designed to undermine modes of being that could challenge the desires of the jewish personality type. This doesn't even get in to how they behaved before the war. The revolutions, the Wiemar Republic. It's really not surprising that people, after trying everything within reason to tell the vision international finance had for their country off, resorted to physically removing the agents of international finance. In modern times, these agents have diversified, but their roots, and their greatest ally, remain the same.

In short, I believe the holocaust happened because they deserved it. Though, in line with how vile they are, the reality of it has been inflated and the prominence of it overstated.

Don't even start with the "not all". It's not my fault if you've had your ability to act on group level dynamics permanently impaired by those who wish for a monopoly over it. Imagine not being racist because of a percentile of nice black guys only to let hundreds of millions suffer under the ongoing consequences which I don't even have to state.