The impact of beef is overplayed to distract you from real environmental issues - and to make you eat bugs goy

[Stoneheart]

The cow reeing movement is, as always, missing the forest for the trees. Yes, cows take a lot more energy to produce the same amount of food as plants. But cows aren't just food. And no, I'm not just talking about dairy.

there is a clean alternative to cows with no downside to it.
They would talk about it all the time if they wanted to reduce methan emission.
they never do because they are sick people.

The alternative is Horse. meat is better, no methan emission, can use worse farmland as pasture, you can get everything you can get from a cow from them.
only dairy would need a decade or so the be replaced with horsemilk since they are breed for milk right now.

 

[Town Drunk]

there is a clean alternative to cows with no downside to it.
They would talk about it all the time if they wanted to reduce methan emission.
they never do because they are sick people.

The alternative is Horse. meat is better, no methan emission, can use worse farmland as pasture, you can get everything you can get from a cow from them.
only dairy would need a decade or so the be replaced with horsemilk since they are breed for milk right now.

Actual alternative is rabbit farms. They grow faster, eat less, and well, breed like rabbits.

Factory beef farms are bad actually. Cows are very inefficient at digestion, so they shit a lot. When that shit storage fails, and leaks into rivers etc, it causes problems. Also, giving healthy animals antibiotics to keep them healthy. Guess where all that piss flows..... Alex Jones was right about the frogs, except they actually have two heads.

However, we can't have an adult conversation about it, because these idiots just scream meat = murder. They want to abolish meat production all together. They have no actual plan. What do we do with the livestock dependent on humans? Just purge them and we all go vegan? A cow or a chicken has no actual IQ. Sorry, but even your dog is not self aware and sentient in the way humans are.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

the environment can get fucked. i want my double cheese burgers.

 

[Small-arms Supremacy]

Actual alternative is rabbit farms. They grow faster, eat less, and well, breed like rabbits.

Factory beef farms are bad actually. Cows are very inefficient at digestion, so they shit a lot. When that shit storage fails, and leaks into rivers etc, it causes problems. Also, giving healthy animals antibiotics to keep them healthy. Guess where all that piss flows..... Alex Jones was right about the frogs, except they actually have two heads.

However, we can't have an adult conversation about it, because these idiots just scream meat = murder. They want to abolish meat production all together. They have no actual plan. What do we do with the livestock dependent on humans? Just purge them and we all go vegan? A cow or a chicken has no actual IQ. Sorry, but even your dog is not self aware and sentient in the way humans are.

Cow digestion efficiency means nothing since they eat grass, food we can't digest.

Cow excrement is vital for growing crops when used as manure, switching to rabbit farms because of rare storage failure is a bit extreme.

Gay frogs are a result of estrogen from women's pills ending up in the water supply, nothing to do with cows. Maybe I'm wrong but antibiotics don't have those effects on animals.

 

[DyingStarsForever]

The largest problem with strict veganism being imposed would be the lack of maintenance of rangeland. Large herbivores are missing from many of them and without grazing cattle we'd lose a great deal of plant diversity in those areas.

Factory farming and low quality meat being used for every single meal is still terrible though, a well thought out vegan diet would still be healthier than what most overweight westerners eat. Vitamin B12 is among the hardest nutrients to find in the non-animal kingsdoms, nutritional yeast being the best source. But at that point eating red meat a couple of times a week is a better option.

the cow farts meme shit has always been retarded. no living animal adds any surplus carbon to the atmosphere unless its food is crude oil and coal lmao

The carbon cycle can still be affected by artificially inflating the population numbers, which they've been. You're right about the overfocus on cow farts though, methane has a much quicker turnover rate in the atmosphere than CO2.

 

[Kill a Troon for Pikamee]

The "environment" doesn't exist. This is God's earth and God controls the weather. There's nothing bad with weather going warm. Even if some catastrophic events were to occur this would only be a sign that the just & merciful God is finally cutting the supply lines to cull the disbelievers. This earth gets destroyed in the end anyway.

"Global warming" and "climate change" doesn't exist and are just scams made to explain to people why is everyone getting poorer and why the final goal of "progress" had to be changed from star trek shit to a kolchoz

 

[DumbDude42]

The carbon cycle can still be affected by artificially inflating the population numbers

its a closed cycle. the only way to increase the total amount of carbon in it is digging up sequestered (fossil) carbon and adding it to the active cycle (by burning it)

there can be an argument about large scale deforestation increasing the total carbon in the atmosphere because it reduces the amount of carbon bound in solid form (biomass) at any given time. there can even be an argument that livestock operations do increase atmospheric carbon because they consume fossil-sourced products like gasoline/diesel fuel for machinery, or fertilizers that come from petrochemical industry. the amounts are small compared to what other industrial fields use, or even compared to what consumers use directly, but it's still there.

but the livestock itself simply isn't an issue, and anybody trying to claim otherwise is dishonest.

 

[Stoneheart]

Cow digestion efficiency means nothing since they eat grass, food we can't digest.

Well we can eat other animals that eat grass and dont fart constantly.

 

[DyingStarsForever]

its a closed cycle. the only way to increase the total amount of carbon in it is digging up sequestered (fossil) carbon and adding it to the active cycle (by burning it)

there can be an argument about large scale deforestation increasing the total carbon in the atmosphere because it reduces the amount of carbon bound in solid form (biomass) at any given time. there can even be an argument that livestock operations do increase atmospheric carbon because they consume fossil-sourced products like gasoline/diesel fuel for machinery, or fertilizers that come from petrochemical industry. the amounts are small compared to what other industrial fields use, or even compared to what consumers use directly, but it's still there.

but the livestock itself simply isn't an issue, and anybody trying to claim otherwise is dishonest.

I agree that land and energy use are the main contributors, but I don't think it's completely dishonest. Increasing carbon in the cycle and increasing carbon in the atmosphere are not the same thing. If the carbon sink is reduced and the carbon source is increased then the amount of carbon in the atmosphere will be higher at any given time that this is in place. Like I said the biogenic cycle is a lot shorter than the biogeochemic cycle, but it still there. But I'm willing to concede that point, most sources I've read on the subject talk about sinks rather than sources when discussing the biogenic cycle so animals may be of lesser importance either way.

 

[DyingStarsForever]

Cow digestion efficiency means nothing since they eat grass, food we can't digest.

Though that's assuming they're grazing on rangeland. Grazing on areable land or just straight up fed agriculutural produce does make it a valid point. The total production of calories per acre would be an order of magnitude higher if the "middle man" of cow digestion was skipped (nb: calories and nutrients aren't the same thing).

 

[DumbDude42]

Well we can eat other animals that eat grass and dont fart constantly.

every organism farts constantly lol, doesnt even matter what it eats
cows are just singled out because they're huge and kept in large numbers so the farts add up a lot

 

[Stoneheart]

cows are just singled out because they're huge and kept in large numbers so the farts add up a lot

no they are singled out because they fart alot more than other animals.
Horses can get to the same size than cows and they fart alot less.

 

[Overly Serious]

Isn't a lot of rain forest cut down to make arable land to grow soybeans for cattle feed in the USA? I thought it was less about cattle per se than it was about their feed.

Also, I think pigs are one of the big issues as China has gone from pork being a nice-to-have to every Chinese person eating three pigs a day insane consumption. They're factory farming pigs with no regard to environmental consequences, buying in pig meat like there's no tomorrow and pumping them full of every drug imaginable to enable factory farming and growth to a nightmare level.

 

[byuu]

Beef is pushed by the Jews to destroy Christian pig farmers.
Do not fall for their lies!

 

[polyester]

I've eaten dried crickets, deep-fried bees, and I think some worm-like things, as a tourist in Asia. I'm not squeamish about trying traditional food, including poor people's food, of other cultures.

But I sure as hell won't replace beef with bug-paste in my normal diet because our globalist overlords say that "environmental justice" or whatnot demands it.

 

[Sage In All Fields]

The environment boat has sailed you just have to prepare for what comes next and keep your wits about you. Anyone who tells you individual action is going to save the planet is high on hopium.

 

[The Spice boi]

Local mexican restaurant had deep fried crickets for a while, ate them on a dare

Honest to God they were actually pretty fucking good. I don't care if cows are bad for the environment or not. You make bugs taste like that and I'll eat them regardless

 

[TLEN]

You are already eating bugs, the question is whether you are willing to try new species.
They can always be genetically engineered to have more protein yield and to be more palatable.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

I would rather every man woman and child dies to super hurricanes in Africa than give up steak.

 

[RussianParasite]

They think that once a cow is butchered, the entire thing turns into steak like in Minecraft.

This actually made me laugh out loud and I am stealing it for the future. It’s the same San Francisco tech people who think that gasoline comes from the gas station and food comes from the grocery store.

People in general wildly underestimate the complexity of supply chains.

ETA: in an effort to keep posts germane to the OP, I have no personal issue with eating bugs if they taste good, are hygienic and healthy. Good food is good food.