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Pretty pathetic to see all the big pro-Trump accounts on right-wing twitter immediately go silent after Trump came out in support of Jeetlon, or even claim that the article was fake
 
H-1B DATA MEGA-THREAD

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Before I start, one note: All charts in this thread are for applications that were “certified” (in other words, approved for entry into the H-1B lottery). I filtered out applications the gov rejected.

All numbers here are therefore for visas employers actually and realistically attempted to obtain.

To start with, this program is MASSIVELY popular with employers. The program has a statutory limit of 85,000 visas per year, but employers routinely receive approval for more than 800k applications per year (868k, or 10x the limit, in 2024).

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Contrary to what I expected, the average salary for an H-1B is relatively low—slightly under $120k this year.

Given that much of the H-1B debate pertains to tech workers, I (incorrectly) assumed the average would be higher. But this is the beauty of data, right?

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You can see that salaries are disproportionately weighted toward the lower bands:

17% are < $75k (blue)
21% are $75-100k (orange)
22% are $100-125k (pink)
15% are $125-150k (teal)

In other words, ~75% are jobs paying < $150k. Only 25% are $150k+, and, of those, only 2.5% are $250k+ (purple).

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I (roughly) categorized job descriptions into computer/software/IT-related roles (teal) and everything else (gray).

Almost all the prominent job categories are tech-related. The two top categories, for software developer roles, are 1.1M over five years by themselves.

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Basically every role with 30k+ H-1B applications is for a STEM field, with the exception of accountants and auditors (49k). Most of them IT-related, at that.

There’s a little more variety in roles with smaller numbers, but the overall tilt towards STEM remains throughout.

Let’s review applications by employer (again, with teal representing IT roles and gray being everything else).

There are some HUGE numbers here. 15 companies alone received approval for 20k+ applications each.

We’ll go back to employers momentarily.

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Looking at applications by employer NAICS code, 5415 (computer systems design) absolutely dwarfs everything else: 1.2M applications over five years.

The next two largest are 6113 (universities) and 5416 (consulting).

As consultants like to say, let’s double-click into this.

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NAICS code 5415 (computer systems design) is the category for many of the larger employers we saw above. Some of the companies here—Google, IBM, Salesforce—are household names.

But what about the other large applicants here, which aren’t as familiar (Cognizant, Infosys, Tata)?

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As it turns out, these are ALL Indian companies that import H-1B tech workers en masse:
Cognizant (93k)
Infosys (61k)
Tata Consultancy Services (60k)
Wipro
Capgemini
HCL
Compunnel
Tech Mahindra
Mphasis

These aren’t American companies that needed international talent to fill critical roles. They’re foreign companies that appear to have been founded to place overseas tech workers into US companies as contractors.

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What jobs are these companies seeking visas for?

A metric f**k ton of IT and software roles. Over the past five years, 80k+ computer systems analysts (Cognizant is the big player here). 50k+ systems engineers/architects (Cognizant + Tata). Programmers (looks like Wipro and Mphasis concentrate here) and IT project managers (Infosys).

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The chart here shows each company’s average salary for each role. I’ve added a shaded gray band between $80-120k to highlight where the preponderance of salaries fall.

I’ve spent my career in M&A and corporate finance, and I’ve been involved in a lot of budget and hiring decisions. Unless we’ve overpaid every developer and IT person at every company I’ve ever worked for, $80-120k for roles like this is NOT market.

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The H-1B program isn't just Indian companies requesting visas for IT workers, though.

The list of companies seeking visas for accountants is a who's who of Big Four and other prominent accounting firms. EY is crushing the competition with 16k+ applications.

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EY also has the largest share of employers seeking visas for finance-related jobs, followed by investment banks Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, and Citibank.

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Here are the roles for which EY sought visas, along with average salaries. Everything from accountants (16k) to computer systems analyst (7k) to actuaries (600 or so). EY isn't even a major player in the world of actuaries!

There's zero reason why they couldn't hire these people domestically.

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Here's Amazon's main H-1B LLC:

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Google, not surprisingly, had 45k applications for software developers alone.

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You can see where I’m going with this. A casual perusal of the data shows that this isn’t a program for the top 0.1% of talent, as it’s been described. This is simply a way to recruit hundreds of thousands of relatively lower-wage IT and financial services professionals.

America needs to be a destination for the world’s most elite talent. But the H-1B program isn’t the way to do that.

I’m going to stop posting for now, but let me know if there are any other visualizations that would be helpful.

If you made it this far, thanks for reading!


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Originally posted by Twitter/X account @RobertMSterling but it has been archived here on Kiwi Farms for posterity.
 
Breadbassket said:
Cognizant (93k)
Infosys (61k)
Tata Consultancy Services (60k)
Wipro
Capgemini
HCL
Compunnel
Tech Mahindra
Mphasis
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Wipro, Infosys,TaTa, Cognizant, and HCL make up WITCH. Companies so exploitive, low quality and cheap that they are infamous in the field. They are the opposite of FANG wherein having them on your resume is a blackmark.
 
Breadbassket said:
As it turns out, these are ALL Indian companies that import H-1B tech workers en masse:
Cognizant (93k)
Infosys (61k)
Tata Consultancy Services (60k)
Wipro
Capgemini
HCL
Compunnel
Tech Mahindra
Mphasis
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I have encountered Cognizant, Capgemini, HCL, and Infosys working for my clients alongside us. I don't know about H1Bs but they were mostly either foreign teams working in their home countries or were foreign teams the clients had imported and put up in entire company managed apartment buildings.

The Capgemini ones were nice but they weren't India. The rest I have no good comments on at this time.
 
I was at the mall a few days ago buying clothes and I went down the escalator.

Behind me was a large Indian family. In front of me was an Indian on the phone. The Indian family behind me smelled bad, like sweat and curry.

The kiosks were nothing but Indians playing on their phone. These are your H1Bs saar. Enjoy.
 
quaawaa said:
Srirnam Krishnan, Elon’s pet AI ”expert” who started the whole H-1B debate admitted in an old interview that the only skill he has is talking:
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It's literally companies slashing payroll for quarterly reports by shipping in jeets and eventually making a close to low end white IQ jeet CEO the "Yes Saar" to the board that can make them feel more conformatable about the jeetification and ultimate decline of the corp. Capitalism is always anti-national
 
Breadbassket said:
The chart here shows each company’s average salary for each role. I’ve added a shaded gray band between $80-120k to highlight where the preponderance of salaries fall.

I’ve spent my career in M&A and corporate finance, and I’ve been involved in a lot of budget and hiring decisions. Unless we’ve overpaid every developer and IT person at every company I’ve ever worked for, $80-120k for roles like this is NOT market.
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The truth of the matter is simply this: the businesscucks who run these companies hate the SWE. They cannot stand the SWE. The SWE (at least the competent ones) is too scarce and too principled and too cash-rich to boss around.

The middle-management screams that the SWE must get back in the wage cage. They must commute to downtown negrofied ghettos and spend money at expensive restaurants and be present at the office for HR drones to gawk at. The SWE says no and quits to go work at a smaller business (often a competitor) that doesn't care where they work from.

Executives demand that a corner be cut so functionality can be delivered in half the time but at 3x the potential risk to end users. The SWE disagrees, it goes against their professional ethics. When executives double-down, the SWE demands they get everything in writing so they can testify when someone inevitably gets maimed/defrauded/raped by some retarded half-baked software.

Jeets (none of them are SWEs) will gladly get in the wage cage, and they love to say yes while not having things on the record. Like the barcode man says, management thinks the jeets can either do the job as good or at the very least scare the SWE into behaving lest he lose his job. This does not work - the SWE is an autist with simple pleasures. He may not even have a wife or children meaning 100% of his income is spent on himself or stashed away in savings. When the times are bad, the SWE simply fucks off and takes a vacation and nothing infuriates the businesscuck more than the fact that the SWE can simply walk away, jerk off and drink beer for a year or two, and then come back completely unscathed when the jeets have trashed the company (while demanding a considerable premium for his return). This is partly why American tech salaries are so obscene - they keep trying the jeet, the jeets ruin everything, and the domestic SWE comes back except he wants 2x the base pay he had last time and you better not call him after 5 PM or he'll take the open position at your competitor.

They hate us because they keep trying to fuck us and we invariably fuck them back. In five years, we'll be in a jeetcession again and they'll seethe about how entry-level SWEs are now making 200k/year or something absurd because time is a flat circle.
 
Cyberpunk Meta said:
I was at the mall a few days ago buying clothes and I went down the escalator.

Behind me was a large Indian family. In front of me was an Indian on the phone. The Indian family behind me smelled bad, like sweat and curry.

The kiosks were nothing but Indians playing on their phone. These are your H1Bs saar. Enjoy.
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How can they not be aware of how bad they smell? Seriously, do they not notice everyone within 50 feet of them being grossed out?
Also @Fcret I cant reply but youre correct. Same with doctors there is a serious supply/demand imbalance which is why programmers get paid $300k to do 30 minutes of work a day from home in their underwear which company owners+management hates for obvious reasons. Ironically the only solution is to invest in properly training americans to be programmers so theres more supply to drive prices down which they absolutely refuse to do. Why they picked pajeets is beyond me. Eastern europeans and mainland chinese are actually competent and are just as desperate to escape their shithole while also being more compatible with western society.
 
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DSHK said:
How can they not be aware of how bad they smell? Seriously, do they not notice everyone within 50 feet of them being grossed out?
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Yes and no.

Generally speaking people can't smell their own BO.

But Indian culture is such that it's a flex to force other people to put up with you being a rude obnoxious asshole. So them stinking? And making other people have to put up with it? The fact that you don't immediately throw them out of the building means they're better than you.

This is the mindset of the sub 75 IQ Indian.
 
HTTP Error 404 said:
Yes and no.

Generally speaking people can't smell their own BO.

But Indian culture is such that it's a flex to force other people to put up with you being a rude obnoxious asshole. So them stinking? And making other people have to put up with it? The fact that you don't immediately throw them out of the building means they're better than you.

This is the mindset of the sub 75 IQ Indian.
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Its like elliot roger and cyraxx had 1.6 billion children
 
Chunky Salsa said:
The only nations in the world that can actually stand each other, and will actually help each other are white ones lmao. It's so painfully obvious how inferior everyone else is. The only reason anyone outside of Europe and the USA exists, is because Europe and the USA took time off from wiping them out, to fuck up each other up for a short time, build the entire modern world; create everything of value, and then take some time to ourselves.
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Now the Japanese Navy wiped the floor with the Russian Navy then again it's the Russian Navy defeating the Russian Navy is like punching a baby when it comes to European sea power.

Let me categorize all of the Asians
Japanese angles of Asia masters of naval combat
Koreans Germans of Asia love work way too much kill themselves because they're not doing too well at work
afghanis Finns of Asia high in the woods will shoot you from the bushes don't like anybody who's not from their country we generally leave people alone if they're not bothered.

Filipinos mediterraneans of Asia make good food nice people good Catholics

Indians blacks of Asia lazy low IQ convinced themselves the better than they actually are they stink can't take care of the young scam artists

mongolians Greeks of Asia at one point they had a great empire and they've not done anything since.

And if honestly any part of Asia is gonna become a superpower with Indonesia that is a rapidly growing economy that is actually based on real things rather than scam artistry it's also not constantly tearing itself apart

DSHK said:
Also @Fcret I cant reply but youre correct. Same with doctors there is a serious supply/demand imbalance which is why programmers get paid $300k to do 30 minutes of work a day from home in their underwear which company owners+management hates for obvious reasons. Ironically the only solution is to invest in properly training americans to be programmers so theres more supply to drive prices down which they absolutely refuse to do. Why they picked pajeets is beyond me. Eastern europeans and mainland chinese are actually competent and are just as desperate to escape their shithole while also being more compatible with western society.
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300,000 that's cute my friend who is a 25 year software veteran gets paid half a million plus stock options and he moves companies whenever he gets bored he's white actually all the programmers I know are white guys
 
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Gonna crosspost my comment from the Canada is a failed state thread:

... one time, my mother was at a location in... well, not important. The important part is she watched one of these fucking dung farmers press a bread roll against the others face, saying "Feel. Warm! Right?" before bagging the fucking thing and hanging it off to a drive-thru customer. Lethal Weapon 2 line here. Thankfully, my mother bolted out, flagged down the guy who was given this face roll, and explained. I won't go into what happened afterwards beyond saying that this happened around 2010.
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DSHK said:
How can they not be aware of how bad they smell? Seriously, do they not notice everyone within 50 feet of them being grossed out?
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If you're exposed to a strong smell continuously you get used to it after a while (the actual effects of whatever vapour it is don't stop, though).
 
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