The injuns deserved it - I feel no guilt eating Turkey

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This right here. If these treaties were actually respected (and the Eternal Anglo wasn't the Eternal Anglo as American politicians always are) I think the whole situation would've been much more healthy today. But no, greedy faggots being greedy means nobody benefitted from this, not the natives and most certainly not the colonists who're now having problems with the natives.

The treaties were often really good and generous. Indians were promised a lot of land and schools to help educate them plus free access to places they'd hunt and fish. The problem was the government never properly funded the Bureau of Indian Affairs so when they promised Indians a bunch of free shit it practically never panned out outside of some food supplies here and there (that's where frybread comes from). And then settlers were understandably jumpy about Indians wandering around off the rez so they'd start shooting them and then that would piss off the faction of Indians who thought they really could bring back the old life, and those guys would convince the neutral chiefs and they'd start another Indian War which would result in even more land lost and usually shittier treaty terms.

The red man started out as cruel savage cannibals and rapists, more violent than a neanderthal. Nowadays they are drunk layabouts that will forever complain about getting btfo in the past. The injun has contributed nothing to society.

There was like a handful of tribes out of the hundreds in the US and Canada who actually ate people. The rest viewed cannibals as diseased and would sometimes choose death by starvation over eating another person lest they become a wendigo/their culture's version.

 

[RollerGator]

There was like a handful of tribes out of the hundreds in the US and Canada who actually ate people. The rest viewed cannibals as diseased and would sometimes choose death by starvation over eating another person lest they become a wendigo/their culture's version.

The ones that wouldn't eat you would still flat you alive.

Certainly more than the kikes whose only priority their whole existence has been to exterminate everyone. The less people die the better, and that's why I pick Injuns.

Jews have still contributed to many great inventions like computers, video games, and cameras. The red savages greatest invention was the teepee.

 

[DagothUr]

America is the only successful colony because they didn't try to integrate or work around the savage niggers they displaced.

 

[The Gene Genie]

I’m glad we had a based clash of civilizations total race war. They may have been savages but the Red Man, especially the Plains Tribes, put up a fight. There’s a lot of ethnic groups out there who stand up these days, in the safety of a tamed world with no balls, about their rights and this that and the other but they stood up and fought, even when it was pretty apparent that it was pretty much over, way back then.

They were an enemy, not really sure they’d count as one now to be fair, but I can respect them as a foe nonetheless.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

"B-buh, it totally wasn't fair, colonists had modern weapons"
War isn't fair.

Not only that, but the Indians didn't war fairly either, the point of war is conquest, not competition. And we know libtards would still complain even if the war was fair down to the exact sane weaponry and number of warriors.

 

[Devout Muslim]

That isn't what Thanksgiving is about though. If anything its a celebration of the Native American's goodwill towards the pilgrims who would have almost certainly starved and died come winter without their Native neighbors unexpected generosity.

This is a common myth perpetuated by Indian-worshippers. Thanksgiving was invented by Ronald Reagan during the Great Depression to move Turkey Meat.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Except the Aztec. Those guys 100% deserved it.

Remember, the Spanish didn't conquer the Aztecs with a few hundred conquistadors.

They conquered them with a few hundred conquistadors and 100,000 native warriors from the tribes that had been brutalized and oppressed by the Aztecs.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

"B-buh, it totally wasn't fair, colonists had modern weapons"

Natives often had better weapons. Take for example Custer and his men who used single shot Springfield rifles with the Injuns using Winchester Repeater rifles.

 

[Audit]

The character of the continental injuns north of the mesoamericans can be summed up quite succinctly with their approach to trade. The Hopi are known to have had a thriving trade network with the mesoamericans. What did the Hopi want? Cocoa beans. The mesoamericans nice copper utensils and knives? No, fucking cocoa. There's no salvaging a people who choose chocolate over metallurgy. That's beads for long island levels of dumb.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

The character of the continental injuns north of the mesoamericans can be summed up quite succinctly with their approach to trade. The Hopi are known to have had a thriving trade network with the mesoamericans. What did the Hopi want? Cocoa beans. The mesoamericans nice copper utensils and knives? No, fucking cocoa. There's no salvaging a people who choose chocolate over metallurgy. That's beads for long island levels of dumb.

Maybe that's all they wanted and neither needed nor desired anything else from their trading partners. What exactly is wrong with that?

It's certainly a better mindset than the "modern" world, where our superior and enlightened minds manufacture and ship tons of plastic dog shit thousands of miles around the world at the cost of valuable fossil fuels so some consoomer can build a wall of Funko pops.

 

[Eydallur]

You don't need Donald Trump to tell you that trading Manhattan Island for a few trinkets and baubles may not be the best real estate deal in history.

For someone who has no ability to develop the land, let alone stake a claim to the turf that they could defend from rivals with a lust for scalps, it was a pretty sweet deal.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

The red man started out as cruel savage cannibals and rapists, more violent than a neanderthal. Nowadays they are drunk layabouts that will forever complain about getting btfo in the past. The injun has contributed nothing to society.

Everyone started as cruel savage cannibals and rapists. Everyone at the start of colonization was STILL rapists.

The backwardness of some parts of the world only looks long when you compare it to the run of civilization, some what, 6,000 to 8,000 years? But humans have been around at least 100,000? If a civ was a "late starter" at that scale a few thousand year delay would be expected. Some of what the Mesoamericans and Andeans achieved on their own was very impressive and they were beginning to export their culture to North America.


I do have a massive unpopular opinion (probably share it in that thread) about Indians: I think that the White Man's conquest actually STOPPED a Malthusian crisis. As agriculture spread the Indians would have eventually filled in the carrying capacity of the land. It's debatable what they could achieve without domesticated beasts of burden, but ultimately I imagine the Mississippi River winding up like China and for the same basic geographical reasons. Imagine a giant shitty China right in America's heartland. They would have stripped the continent clean. We're fortunate, in a conservationist sense, that a people on the verge of demographic transition grabbed the land up before they got to that point.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

The character of the continental injuns north of the mesoamericans can be summed up quite succinctly with their approach to trade. The Hopi are known to have had a thriving trade network with the mesoamericans. What did the Hopi want? Cocoa beans. The mesoamericans nice copper utensils and knives? No, fucking cocoa. There's no salvaging a people who choose chocolate over metallurgy. That's beads for long island levels of dumb.

Maybe the copper wasn't that useful to them, not enough of a step up from their stone tools?

I mean it. I don't know much about copper tools, but one principle I have learned long ago and that never stops paying off is that when people in some situation are doing what seems to be stupid, you probably just aren't considering the full picture with all the facts that they have.

Maybe that's all they wanted and neither needed nor desired anything else from their trading partners. What exactly is wrong with that?

It's certainly a better mindset than the "modern" world, where our superior and enlightened minds manufacture and ship tons of plastic dog shit thousands of miles around the world at the cost of valuable fossil fuels so some consoomer can build a wall of Funko pops.

I agree with your sentiment but it's definitely not true given how Indians responded to the arrival of Whites. Muh nature-worshippers started slaughtering every deer and beaver in sight to try to buy more firewater and iron goods.

 

[RollerGator]

I’m glad we had a based clash of civilizations total race war. They may have been savages but the Red Man, especially the Plains Tribes, put up a fight. There’s a lot of ethnic groups out there who stand up these days, in the safety of a tamed world with no balls, about their rights and this that and the other but they stood up and fought, even when it was pretty apparent that it was pretty much over, way back then.

They were an enemy, not really sure they’d count as one now to be fair, but I can respect them as a foe nonetheless.

Respect them all you want but they are sore losers that will never stop crying about the white man.