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Aquinas said:
I read something on reddit saying that neil druckman having his employees watch snuff/gore videos was A-OK because they had the right to refuse Which i would get that, but one has the consider the fact that given his seat of power, most of them would probably feel awfully pressured not to refuse
theres also the possibility of the 'right to refuse' was just a formality, and that he could have coerced his employees to do it anyways
thats not even getting into the psychological rammifications of this, which druckman probably shielded himself with a mixture of a NDA (iirc i dont think we ever heard the snuff thing was legit, officially) and liability waiver. Law Enforcement who has to go through videos showcasing sexual abuse/snuff and whatnot usually have to go into therapy after six months (or weeks, i cant honestly remember which) and these are people trained in dealing with such matters, not shut-in programmers keep to tight nit social circles
So i doubt if anything happens as a result to the snuff shit, if it were true, i dont think they'd be getting anyhelp from naughtydog
unlike the Law Enforcement officers do
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You mean to tell me that not everyone eats breakfast while watching TheYNC or BestGore? I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
 
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GayestFurryTrash said:
How much of a fucking idiot do you have to be to think anyone really cares enough about the reviews of a video game?

"Oh no, the paid shill media didn't give a game I don't like bad reviews, lemme neck myself now."

Rate me MATI but I was looking forward to this coming out, I am genuinely one of those sad speds that loves the Naughty Dog 'Uncharted' game formula. I even liked fucking Lost Legacy but that doesn't mean I make my existence about them. And I will admit this is a fucking trashfire from a narrative standpoint. Brace yourselves fellow Kiwis I'll be doing my review once I get and finish the game, because since my existence is already pain what's a little more misery added to the pile?
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Normally, I'd be part of the chorus asking for you to do a flip as you throw your money into the pyre. But honestly, this isn't even worth ripping into. Wasting your money and torturing yourself with it... it'd be like getting mugged, but you'll keep your spleen intact.
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lol, combo followed up by IT'S MA'AM

Never was keen on quicktime events.

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She just no sells a fall that would break a normal person's hip.

Also, it's so cute how the jackass doing the zombie's mocap was just swatting his hands at Abby Lesnar instead of... what's this bullshit zombies do? Oh, ri--BITE HER! God fucking dammit.

This may garbage fire may not be written like a tragedy, and certainly not the Greek kind, but it is quite tragic, bordering on a crime against humanity.
Secret Asshole said:
That aside, Ghosts looks like a far superior game. Stealth Samurai violently murdering invading barbarians to save your people vs. Unfun cunt's vanity project misery simulator. THIS IS A HARD CHOICE TO PURCHASE, WHICHEVER WILL I BUY
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Boy, I am strapped for that game! They had me at "you can't kill your own horse, wtf would you want that?!" :story:
 
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Him walking into that room full of weed and then saying this is unintentionally funny.

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Dang Woodchucks! said:
Normally, I'd be part of the chorus asking for you to do a flip as you throw your money into the pyre. But honestly, this isn't even worth ripping into. Wasting your money and torturing yourself with it... it'd be like getting mugged, but you'll keep your spleen intact.
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Eh, I wanna review it and without powerleveling I get my games at a pretty hearty discount. I will probably be able to sell it for more than I paid for it the day after I complete it; I'll also have plenty of beer and I do have roommates so if nothing else we can play drinking games and rip it a new asshole as we get progressively more shitfaced.
 
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Tard said:
Wait, has this been confirmed?
If true, I've noticed Neil has this thing where he likes constantly bragging about seeing gore to flex his edgyness, he's like those bestgore edgelords who act all smugly enlightened cuz they seen a Isis beheading
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It's nothing new, the art team and developers on Left 4 Dead 2 (it's discussed in the first level of The Parish with developer commentary on, they called it the "Nightmare Folder" or something) and Dead Space both used graphic injuries as a reference to make the gore more realistic. I'm not sure why people are getting so pissy about Druckman doing the same thing; he's a hack of a writer, sure, but the art team need to know what they're animating should look like if they're aiming for realism.
 
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Bender said:
It's nothing new, the art team and developers on Left 4 Dead 2 (it's discussed in the first level of The Parish with developer commentary on, they called it the "Nightmare Folder" or something) and Dead Space both used graphic injuries as a reference to make the gore more realistic. I'm not sure why people are getting so pissy about Druckman doing the same thing; he's a hack of a writer, sure, but the art team need to know what they're animating should look like if they're aiming for realism.
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It’s just fuel for the fire he’s made at this point.
 
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Bender said:
It's nothing new, the art team and developers on Left 4 Dead 2 (it's discussed in the first level of The Parish with developer commentary on, they called it the "Nightmare Folder" or something) and Dead Space both used graphic injuries as a reference to make the gore more realistic. I'm not sure why people are getting so pissy about Druckman doing the same thing; he's a hack of a writer, sure, but the art team need to know what they're animating should look like if they're aiming for realism.
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Those two development teams were noted to cycle through artists, and were provided support if they needed to get away from the material being referenced.

There's been no such indication here, and it's being held up as a point of pride rather than a hurdle the team jumped.
 
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Bender said:
It's nothing new, the art team and developers on Left 4 Dead 2 (it's discussed in the first level of The Parish with developer commentary on, they called it the "Nightmare Folder" or something) and Dead Space both used graphic injuries as a reference to make the gore more realistic. I'm not sure why people are getting so pissy about Druckman doing the same thing; he's a hack of a writer, sure, but the art team need to know what they're animating should look like if they're aiming for realism.
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
It’s just fuel for the fire he’s made at this point.
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Catgirl IRL said:
Those two development teams were noted to cycle through artists, and were provided support if they needed to get away from the material being referenced.

There's been no such indication here, and it's being held up as a point of pride rather than a hurdle the team jumped.
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I think it's also that with L4D and Dead Space, you can assume they were doing it to be inforemed. With this jackass, you get the feeling he just gets off with it, and making people miserable is a bonus.
 
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Bronwen Grimes : The infected textures are part hand-painted, part photographic reference. One of our team members had a nightmare folder full of photographs of people suffering from bizarre diseases and injuries. They were so hard to look at that the infected actually contain none of these. Instead, the secret ingredients for infecting normal-looking human textures are photos of housing insulation and potato skins.

Even they settled down on something more reasonable.
 
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If it weren't for the way the plot unfolds for maximum discomfort on the player's end, especially if they have an emotional connection to Ellie and Joel, you'd need to provide me hard proof that Druckmen didn't get sick satisfaction out of making his underlings watch things that actively damaged their mental wellbeing.
 
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Bender said:
It's nothing new, the art team and developers on Left 4 Dead 2 (it's discussed in the first level of The Parish with developer commentary on, they called it the "Nightmare Folder" or something) and Dead Space both used graphic injuries as a reference to make the gore more realistic. I'm not sure why people are getting so pissy about Druckman doing the same thing; he's a hack of a writer, sure, but the art team need to know what they're animating should look like if they're aiming for realism.
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Prolly because Cuckmann isn't doing it to make the game more visceral and realistic; he's doing it because he finds the artists getting sick and depressed watching dogs getting burned alive or people getting their flesh mutilated sexually gratifying. Those companies at least made sure to do basic things like have counseling or rotation periods for the misery jobs. They also weren't in a clearly toxic work environment too, since at Naughty Dog you have to actually use hand gestures to indicate you're being serious and not being a catty fuck.
 
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Gamepad said:
Bronwen Grimes : The infected textures are part hand-painted, part photographic reference. One of our team members had a nightmare folder full of photographs of people suffering from bizarre diseases and injuries. They were so hard to look at that the infected actually contain none of these. Instead, the secret ingredients for infecting normal-looking human textures are photos of housing insulation and potato skins.

Even they settled down on something more reasonable.
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That's not even really hardcore shit, hell there used to be mailing lists back in the day that would specifically send you photos of weird flesh diseases and shit to look at. I think people are talking more along the lines of being forced to watch "the brick video" or "Funky Town" when it comes to TLOU2.

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If it weren't for the way the plot unfolds for maximum discomfort on the player's end, especially if they have an emotional connection to Ellie and Joel, you'd need to provide me hard proof that Druckmen didn't get sick satisfaction out of making his underlings watch things that actively damaged their mental wellbeing.
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It wouldn't surprise me to the slightest, the media seems so far up Druckmanns asshole they would forgive him for anything. Same goes for Cory Barlog, seeing as none of them brought up the fact that in the behind the scenes videos for GoW the actor for Atreus is pretty clearly sick and his mother is a rabid anti-vaxxer apparently. They all jumped down Ed Boons throat for apparently having people watch car crash videos for reference but I never bought that, mainly because Ed Boon seems like a genuinely good guy who wouldn't do that kinda shit. Granted I don't know him but I don't think I've ever heard bad shit about him.
 
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Salubrious said:
You know, there are so many laughable things about this game, that I haven't seen anybody mention yet that Seattle is 1300 miles away from Boulder. This does not seem like a quick trip even on horseback.
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I thought they were getting there from Wyoming? That's not much closer but it is closer.
 
Salubrious said:
You know, there are so many laughable things about this game, that I haven't seen anybody mention yet that Seattle is 1300 miles away from Boulder. This does not seem like a quick trip even on horseback.
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So does Abby kill Joel in Boulder and follow Ellie to Seattle?

There are a whole lot more Joels out there and how can Abby know she got the right one?
 
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Titos said:
I thought they were getting there from Wyoming? That's not much closer but it is closer.
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It could be. Don't quote me; I swore I heard Boulder.

Either way, Seattle to Cheyenne is 1226 miles.

Hell, Seattle to Boise is 500 miles.

This isn't an overnight trip any way you slice it.
 
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