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As much as I'm enjoying the live demonstration of the linux community (the guy who's sticking it to bill gates over a decade late was my favorite), I was hoping there'd be some more material from the rest of the web - Specifically, I'm really curious about reactions to Windows adding linux libs. The closest I ever got to the linux community was XDA, so I'm not even aware of where they congregate. If someone could point me that way, I'd be grateful.
 
Lol, just get a Mac.
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Mechanical Hugbox said:
Man, I forgot about this thread.
If you wanna see some real lolcow stuff from the linux community just make a post on /g/ saying something bad about linux, then you'll see some real :autism:
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That's low hanging fruit.

Declare some particular variant of Linux the greatest ever, while trashing other variants, and provide details, but get them wrong enough to trigger autistic rage in the proponents of them. Declare open source stupid, and say they should be grateful video card manufacturers even give them so much as a binary blob driver for their niche OS. They're paranoid tinfoil hat loonies if they have a problem with it.
 
Bungleboy said:
I don't quite remember him, what's his malfunction?
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The "Holy Trinity" of free software is Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds, and Eric S Raymond. Richard Stallman plays the part of the Father, creating the world (free libre software as a concept, GNU foundation, GNU libraries, etc.). Linus Torvalds is the Son, who spread the word of the Father (creating the Linux kernel which propelled free software into the world). Eric S Raymond is the Holy Spirit, because nobody knows what the fuck he did but he's acknowledged as vaguely important anyway.
 
Linux could be great for gaming if developers gave a shit. A friend of mine is always blathering on about he can perfectly optimize his games for his PC with the magic of lunix. Except he's got maybe a dozen games he can play via Steam, and I refuse to install another OS to play games with him.

As it stands, the only reason Linux is represented in gaming is because Valve had a giant spooge fest over it, and that platforms like Sourceforge have stuff for Linux. Most devs don't care about a tiny minority platform since they spend more money in payroll than they do in selling to the Linux crowd.
 
Linux, like other operating systems, has its benefits, and its flaws, and they have the right idea, but the Linux fanboys are... well, you're all seeing the thread. lol
They are also extremely defensive to any kind of constructive criticism. Tell them about a glitch and make a suggestion on how to fix it, and they jump down your throats as if you're bashing Linux while shouting "MAC/PC IS BETTER!". it's aggravating at first, but then it just gets funny. It's so easy and entertaining to tick them off.
 
ADN_VIII said:
Linux could be great for gaming if developers gave a shit. A friend of mine is always blathering on about he can perfectly optimize his games for his PC with the magic of lunix. Except he's got maybe a dozen games he can play via Steam, and I refuse to install another OS to play games with him.
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The truth is you would have to re-design at least the whole graphics system of linux to make it competitive.

Windows is simply the best and fastest solution to get 3D performance. Microsoft invested a lot of effort into designing the system and it pays off. Even Apple can't match performance on the same hardware even though they have full control over hard- and software.
 
If OS's were weapons, Windows would be a cheap mass-produced GLOCK handgun; Mac would be a rare Mexican .44 revolver with a ten inch barrel and an ivory grip inlaid with silver; and Linux a daikatana which has been compiled a million times.
 
Larry Thorne said:
The truth is you would have to re-design at least the whole graphics system of linux to make it competitive.
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The truth is, you would have to gas the existing linux community and start anew to get a decent gaming/desktop os out of Linux.

It starts from within. As long as an OS is designed and implemented by people not caring about its performance and usability as a desktop OS, there's no moving forwards.
 
Oh, and Stallman is a riot.

Been to an RMS lecture once, it was quite bizarre. Lots of good points, but also lots of very weird, partially unhinged moments. About half way through the lecture, he suddenly started speaking faster and faster and bent a bit in the chair, then skipped last few points and Q&A and disappeared backstage.

Some frantic shouting later, he reappeared as we were packing, ran past us, up the stairs of the auditorium, while shouting "bathroom, fucking bathroom, it's urgent!"

He did hand out a shitload of free stickers.
That was nice.
 
as an SA refugee said:
The truth is, you would have to gas the existing linux community and start anew to get a decent gaming/desktop os out of Linux.

It starts from within. As long as an OS is designed and implemented by people not caring about its performance and usability as a desktop OS, there's no moving forwards.
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This. So much this.

Windows, Mac, and Linux were all designed from the following concepts:

Windows: Make an easy to use OS for a computer people can use to do almost anything.

Mac: Make a computer people can use that removes most of the hard work of manually working on it's hardware and software so that it's guaranteed to be able to be used for most purposes, but purposely maintain a draconian amount of control over what modifications can be made to both hardware and software so users don't break it by accident and, more importantly, to force them to keep re buying Apple stuff every few years, which severely limits their gaming utility since most games are made for Windows and are tailored for Windows specific graphics APIs.

Linux: Unix for people who want to have a PC that does all the stuff Unix excels at, but in a somewhat more accessible yet still tailored for technical users form, which means something that will be able to run servers and web stuff Windows just can't do as well, at the expense of a lot of compatibility with lots of Windows stuff, which, since Windows has the gaming market by the balls, includes most PC gaming.

None of these three OSes have varied much from the above since they were first made, so the problem is literally inherent to the design philosophy behind them since day one.
 
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