The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[AmpleApricots]

The problem I'd have with systemd in actual usage ignoring absolutely everything else is the bugs/design decisions you cannot avoid (and a project of that scope *will* have) by switching a part of it out for something else. So you have to fall in line, just like with Windows. Also would really be uncomfortable with the rate at which things seem to change, which I would not be comfortable with for any important system part. Quite a few programs that run my system haven't really changed in decades and that's actually how I like it. (No, that doesn't mean I'm not open to new stuff, I constantly try new things. Lately I tried the fish shell and the elvish shell, for example) Yet somehow these people claim systemd is rock-solid and my solution is a mess that "needs constant tinkering". I literally just cp/rsync system files to a new system, boot it and it runs. How much simpler can it get? They've also seem to be fallen into that trap where the "user" cannot be "trusted" to do certain things without services and handholding. That's a terrible approach for this kind of software.

Also it's funny that he got the idea from MacOS. I didn't know MacOS did this. You know why? Because I actually use Linux, contrary to many of these people.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Also it's funny that he got the idea from MacOS. I didn't know MacOS did this. You know why? Because I actually use Linux, contrary to many of these people.

Everything gnome/redhat/poettering does is "inspired" by MacOS, though as usual the implementation is kack-handed and inherently broken.

 

[AnOminous]

Well, yes. You want as few dependencies as possible, so putting it inside the init system makes the most sense. It's for fixing boot issues, so for example "root drive not found, press any key for command prompt" and you can then do systemctl isolate storagetm.target to make the system's drives accessible to your other computer.

And giving low level access to a hard drive to anything else on the network clearly has no security implications.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

And giving low level access to a hard drive to anything else on the network clearly has no security implications.

Gotta keep those CVE people in business somehow

 

[Computer Guardian]

Cool new systemd feature just dropped.

https://www.phoronix.com/news/systemd-storagetm

yay... another feature SystemD doesn't need... and my Ventoy USB and GRUB does more than that.

 

[DavidS877]

yay... another feature SystemD doesn't need... and my Ventoy USB and GRUB does more than that.

Home users: Boot from USB.
Small Business: Boot from USB.
Medium Business: Boot from USB with Virtual Media from your remote management card.
Big Business: We don't care, set IPMI to boot from network and wipe and reinstall automatically.

As usual this is a feature in search of a problem.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

What's to stop you from setting your phone to spam TRIM commands when you pass an open hotspot? It does say it doesn't have any authentication.

 

[Creative Username]

What's to stop you from setting your phone to spam TRIM commands when you pass an open hotspot? It does say it doesn't have any authentication.

Funny (but very illegal) idea: Go wardriving with a laptop running 5 billion scripts and leave custom boot sectors that say things like "Nice Chromium password database you got there, loser." and "thanks for the bitcoin" and so on, based on the files on people's disks. Doesn't even have to steal the data, just remark on it.

 

[Sperg Coalition]

This thread made me google a bit and they apparently moved the goalposts on this, and what you're referring to as systemd is actually systemd-initd (or systemd-initd-redhat-linux as I've taken to call it). Kinda pretending the odd million of lines of code that project had last time I checked don't exist and your argument is invalid because you can just chose to ignore all the tooling and just use the init parts for some reason, instead, of you know, using a collection of sane tools with an actual scope which aren't so tightly integrated into each other that you literally cannot use them by themselves. You still have a choice! (as long as the choice is systemd)

Bless the elogind devs for allowing non-systemd distros to work but... The fact that this needed to be done is a major fuckup Goddamnit.

 

[Betonhaus]

Now that I got my new server up and running time to put windows back on the old gaming laptop, except that it has a windows 7 key, Microsoft no longer does free upgrades to 10, and over my dead body will there be an unsupported os put on my network. So Zorin OS it is, as it handled Windows game emulation well and accepts Nvidia drivers

 

[Heliantheae]

But look at his Mastodon post! It's the "new hot shit", it's "cool"! These people, I swear

It's definitely going to be "hot shit".

 

[Day of the Cope]

Manjaro finally dying off.

Frankly, this was a long time coming. I can't think of another distro that has so many running jokes about them. AUR running a little slow? Manjaro must be DDoSing the servers again. Failing to update SSL certificates? Just set your clocks back! Frankly, the idea of making a distro from a rolling-release and then holding back updates was always dead on arrival.

 

[WhiteNight]

Manjaro finally dying off.

Frankly, this was a long time coming. I can't think of another distro that has so many running jokes about them. AUR running a little slow? Manjaro must be DDoSing the servers again. Failing to update SSL certificates? Just set your clocks back! Frankly, the idea of making a distro from a rolling-release and then holding back updates was always dead on arrival.

Dying off? It's perhaps slipping from being one of the most popular distros towards being a middling to big one, but even that is an achievement in the crowded Linux distro field. It's still #5 on Distrowatch, above Ubuntu:

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I expect Manjaro will be with us for a long time to come.

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

The 545.xx.xx.xx nvidia driver branch finally reached Arch. This one is supposed to be huge deal for Wayland, but I haven't gotten around to trying Wayland yet. I'm not really sure it's still worth trying Wayland until it's practically impossible to to use Xorg.

I expect Manjaro will be with us for a long time to come.

Unfortunatly

 

[Day of the Cope]

Dying off? It's perhaps slipping from being one of the most popular distros towards being a middling to big one, but even that is an achievement in the crowded Linux distro field. It's still #5 on Distrowatch, above Ubuntu:
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distrowatch.com

I expect Manjaro will be with us for a long time to come.

From the site itself:

The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring interest in Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch was accessed each day, nothing more.

The 545.xx.xx.xx nvidia driver branch finally reached Arch. This one is supposed to be huge deal for Wayland, but I haven't gotten around to trying Wayland yet. I'm not really sure it's still worth trying Wayland until it's practically impossible to to use Xorg.

Not going to have much of a choice, at this point.

Fedora is finally ripping off the band-aid and removing X11 support.

I know people like to piss and moan about Wayland "not being ready", but we're at the point of "shit or get off the pot". The constant cycle of "no one uses Wayland because of the bugs/no one wants to fix the bugs because no one uses it" will only be solved when developers are dragged kicking and screaming away from X11.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

I know people like to piss and moan about Wayland "not being ready", but we're at the point of "shit or get off the pot". The constant cycle of "no one uses Wayland because of the bugs/no one wants to fix the bugs because no one uses it" will only be solved when developers are dragged kicking and screaming away from X11.

X will still be with us in 10 years' time. X will likely still be more popular than Wayland in 10 years' time.

 

[AnOminous]

I know people like to piss and moan about Wayland "not being ready", but we're at the point of "shit or get off the pot".

I'll take "get off the pot" tbh.

X will still be with us in 10 years' time. X will likely still be more popular than Wayland in 10 years' time.

Anything Fedora does is a matter of the utmost indifference to me. Tell me when Mint does it. They fairly recently started having Wayland available, but making it the default seems a long way out, and I seriously don't see them doing away support for it any time soon.

 

[Yandex Captcha Solver]

I'm still wondering why people do fresh Manjaro installs in current year™. The Arch ISO has had the Archinstall script for at least a year. It works very well. It supports encryption, various filesystems, the majority of DEs, custom partitions, additional packages, etc, etc. Pretty well any option the majority of users care about.

A new Arch install takes just a few minutes plus however long it takes to fetch the packages.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Manjaro I think is a fine distro that has a niche for people who want Arch but don't want to spend hours sperging over their computer. And it looks really good out of the box especially with KDE. Avoid the AUR in Manjaro though since Manjaro holds back updates which can fuck up the AUR. For computer nerds for Arch, either raw Arch or something like Endeavor. But you linux tards already know that.

As for avoiding systemd, Antix does it right and it is what I use in my very old computers, I switched to JWM from IceWM in it and it's great. It starts up using only 90mb of ram.

 

[HexFag]

Manjaro finally dying off.

Frankly, this was a long time coming. I can't think of another distro that has so many running jokes about them. AUR running a little slow? Manjaro must be DDoSing the servers again. Failing to update SSL certificates? Just set your clocks back! Frankly, the idea of making a distro from a rolling-release and then holding back updates was always dead on arrival.

God dammit I just got Manjaro XFCE comfortable to my liking too... I'll switch over when shit really hits the fan but until then I'll stay out of pure laziness.