The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

2. disable what?

On some systems you can disable (intergrated) graphics output and it will work headless. Depends on vendor though.

 

[std::string]

If you want the full modern web experience, it's either firefox or chrome and it fucking sucks.

Yep, and then eventually it'll just be Chromium. Firefox's market share is getting really low. Dipped under Safari.

Google won the browser wars in a way that Bill Gates could only dream of.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Yep, and then eventually it'll just be Chromium. Firefox's market share is getting really low. Dipped under Safari.

Google won the browser wars in a way that Bill Gates could only dream of.

The Chinese are developing an alternative to webkit for goverment use.
I don't know if you'd like the MSS looking at your history of the NSA. Is there a difference?

 

[Betonhaus]

On some systems you can disable (intergrated) graphics output and it will work headless. Depends on vendor though.

i can look for that setting, lookingat it there's not a lot of files on the old OS drive so I can wipe and reparttition it quickly. but I'm off to go visiting first so i'll deal with that later even though i think I have just enough time right now

 

[Chen Stirner]

Chromium is...not actually a browser! It's like 80% of the way to being its own fucking OS. That's just how it was designed.

The whole joke about how modern operating systems are just bootloaders for the web browser just took on a whole new meaning.

Well, probably. And also Google can just throw that shit onto a hilariously overpowered CI server to compile it so there was never any incentive to keep that shit under control.

That's one of the major problems with modern software. As developers got access to more resources, they got lazy with optimization. The programs then grew into the bloated monstrosities we hate today. It seems like they'll keep growing indefinitely, but we're also approaching the physical limitations of computer architecture. Transistors are already at the atomic level. Eventually, they will reach the point where they can't make components any smaller or more powerful, and it will hopefully () incentivize developers to optimize their programs again.

It's not perfect either though. If you want the full modern web experience, it's either firefox or chrome and it fucking sucks.

I hate how the modern internet is so fucking bloated you're pretty much required to use a bloated web browser. Half of all web sites won't work if you have Javascript disabled, which means minimal browsers like Dillo and text-based browsers like Lynx won't work on them. Personally, I use Brave because of its adblocking and memory saving features. I've tried out Suckless Surf and it works perfectly with minimalist web sites, but it chokes on modern ones. Such is the miserable state of the internet today.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

>He fell for the Gentoo meme

Daily reminder that Gentoo is a meme distro. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

 

[std::string]

I don't know if you'd like the MSS looking at your history of the NSA. Is there a difference?

My Windows desktop has so much kernel level anti-cheat software installed for Chinagames that I'm sure Xi can browse my hard drive if he gets bored.

Actually, on that note, a lot of Chinese websites block Firefox. Change your user agent to Chrome and then they work. Not sure what the chink spooks are up to here.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

My Windows desktop has so much kernel level anti-cheat software installed for Chinagames that I'm sure Xi can browse my hard drive if he gets bored.

Actually, on that note, a lot of Chinese websites block Firefox. Change your user agent to Chrome and then they work. Not sure what the chink spooks are up to here.

Tor browser uses firefox by default (you can make a Chrome base version with a bunch of tinkering) and Chinese cyber security agency forced most sites to block them (firefox)out because of it being a "bug riddled mess". It's also to push them to the "approved" versions of chrome and IE (360Safety comes to mind) that have government approved backdoor in them and some features (SOCKS 5 support removed so no VPN4u) disabled by default. You can't download chrome in China either. It's "partnered" through a Chinese company that adds in app ads and literally redirects you while browsing.

Also, yes in China you need a loicense to operate a website (more or less).

 

[Betonhaus]

Well my server is down. My best hope is to somehow chroot into the os and move the /boot partition back onto the main drive then install rEFInd to replace grub

 

[DavidS877]

Well my server is down. My best hope is to somehow chroot into the os and move the /boot partition back onto the main drive then install rEFInd to replace grub

This is what your install usb is for, almost all of them have a shell prompt option. Then command line mount, etc.

 

[Betonhaus]

fuck, everything is borked and nothing is unborkable. I backed up the os to a third drive and did a clean reinstall with MBR-only mode and grub, /boot, and /home installed to the 1tb ssd. now to restore everything again

 

[Betonhaus]

Got my server up and running again and pretty much everything is migrated over. Most of the server apps has their configs in /home so they just needed the new port for qbittorent and were fine. Jellyfin was a pita to deal with as a clean install is borked for no good reason, bit I was able to transfer the four main folders (after fixing ownership as the user id changed for jellyfin depending on the order service users were created) and now I pretty much have everything with no data loss. I just need to set up samba and nextcloud now, and I should be done

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

https://discourse.gnome.org/t/updates-to-the-gnome-foundation-board-of-directors-roster/22201

Updates to the GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Roster​

Spoiler: Text

The GNOME Foundation Board voted to remove Sonny Piers as a member of the Board of Directors for cause, at a Special Meeting on May 17th, 2024, following the procedure outlined in the GNOME Bylaws, and remove him from all committees. Effective May 25th, 2024, his seat is now vacant, and in accordance with the Bylaws will be filled for the remainder of its term by an appointment made by the Board.

A Code of Conduct complaint was also made against Sonny Piers. The Foundation is engaged in a mediation process with him, which is still ongoing and so we are unable to share more information at this time.

 

[Milles d'Allemagne]

The GNOME Foundation Board voted to remove Sonny Piers as a member of the Board of Directors for cause

Good riddance bikecuck.
But he was removed "for cause" while also just happening to have a CoCk complaint against him, did he missgender some dainty flower? I have the utmost faith in this American NGO to be fully transparent in its dealings.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

The Foundation is engaged in a mediation process with him, which is still ongoing and so we are unable to share more information at this time.

Effective May 25th, 2024, his seat is now vacant, and in accordance with the Bylaws will be filled for the remainder of its term by an appointment made by the Board.

It's not much of a mediation process, is it, if they've already decided to replace him?

I wonder exactly which brickhon he managed to piss off.

 

[AnOminous]

fuck, everything is borked and nothing is unborkable. I backed up the os to a third drive and did a clean reinstall with MBR-only mode and grub, /boot, and /home installed to the 1tb ssd. now to restore everything again

Install gentoo!

It's not much of a mediation process, is it, if they've already decided to replace him?

I wonder exactly which brickhon he managed to piss off.

It's great to know they're prioritizing cocks in frocks over the shit being able to actually function. I sure feel less "unsafe" now.

Just being sarcastic, TTD. Get rid of them all.

 

[Kapros]

There doesn't seem to be a Linux distro that isn't infested with transsexual psychopaths. Which is just as well, I guess, since the actual kernal seems to be worked on entirely by spooks, trannies, and tranny spooks at this point anyway.

 

[AmpleApricots]

Interesting thing I learned - (because I started it first without picom and then thought about removing picom altogether because it feels like kind of a mess) the X modesetting driver has apparently no tearfree implementation (although it exists) and the (obsolete) intel on is kinda broken if you don't set DRI to 2. This all used to work at one point and actually feels like someone went in and broke it.

I did some more research into this - the embedded X for wayland does have the fix for quite a while now, it's only the current standalone X release that doesn't, even though the patch is in mainline and has been for about a year, there just is no new version release. Gee, that sure feels organic doesn't it? Knowledge how to at least theoreticaly fix tearing in mainline has been there for around five years at this point. tl;dr if you want tearing to be fixed with the modesetting driver, you have to install the current git version.

I also tested wayland a bit via labwc and cagebreak (I think it was) and my feeling at least on my crappy thinkpad is that it has *more* latency than X. Resource wise, X (with fvwm/jwm/ratpoison) and wayland (with labwc) are extremely similar and neither of them is lighter or faster than the other. If you google this, this seems to be the general experience for most people, complete with moving goalposts and all, "Uh, no, it was never *meant* to be faster CHUD" are actual posts you can find and read. Redraws on rapidly changing screen content might be smoother and actually quicker on wayland if you run X without a compositor, which should not come at a big surprise. I also want to have on record that picom is a piece of shit. Besides the bugs it often just sits there and consumes CPU for no apparent reason.

 

[GNU Abyss]

I also want to have on record that picom is a piece of shit. Besides the bugs it often just sits there and consumes CPU for no apparent reason.

That's been my experience with compositors on Linux in general. Started off on Mint, installed the usual bloat along with conky and a week or so into driving the system I noticed really weird RAM usage increases over time. Poked around, turned out to be compton. Uninstalled compton, installed picom. CPU spikes and stutters when playing games. Said fuck it and decided to not use compositors at all. Been using Linux this way for years now, no regrets.

As an aside, both Cinnamon and conky also gave me grief and were nuked eventually. This made the jump to not using a DE at all and just having simple info in the taskbar's tray easier.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Xorg's tear-free feature is more suitable than a feature-creeping underlay for your windows.