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Trannies aren't representative of all arch users
The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice
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At this point in time, the burden of proof is entirely on you.
Arch users have proven to be the most insufferable, autistic of them all.
EDIT: And let's not forget, more often than not, all of the /r/unixporn posts are made by troons like that guy above.
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Mint users are getting there.
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Nah it's Nix and anti-systemd fags
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No that's just people recognizing that if we want Linux to be more adopted and better supported then we have to not give newbies decision fatigue by forcing them to choose between like a dozen recommendations that they don't understand the difference between, and having their choice be a shitty one. If we have to do a crusade to get there then that's what we'll do.
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To add to this, even Linus said it himself:
Paraphrasing him, "I want something that just works." SteamOS is already making it super easy for normies to adopt Linux as a trusted vidya platform.
The spergs jerking off to their .bashrc files are the ones we should start culling.
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Can't even hide it in his own god damn thumbnail. Does he actually think we can't see the apple because of his choker or something?
If this was 10 years ago I would have thought this was some elaborate parody or something, this chipmunk filter is making me laugh my ass off.
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How likely is it for X12 to be officially packaged on RH-based distros?
It's possible that popular branding is a powerful tool to attract normies. Can't see how SteamOS is easier to set up than a Mint (or Nobara specifically for vidya out-of-the-box), unless it's preinstalled on a Steamdeck.
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Xlibre won't be packaged in the big distros until it's out of beta, and any distro with stake in hating on X11 (eg Fedora) won't ship it unless they're forced to. I would expect the BSD people to flock to this project since they rely entirely on X11, so it might not take too long to mature.
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Not happening. On Ubuntu you might get a semi-official PPA and someone will probably package it for arch.
FreeBSD is already in the preliminary stages of planning a move to Wayland since they want to continue offering GNOME and KDE support and both of those projects look like they're going to drop X11 entirely in the near future. I could see them offering X11/X12/Wayland as options but their goal right now is to get their underlying system infrastructure capable of supporting a wide range of display servers.
EDIT: I should also add that a lot of the *BSDs have their own forks and/or implementations of X servers. The bigger issue isn't so much getting someone to maintain X but the FOSS ecosystem moving away from it. The BSDs need to maintain support for the applications people actually use and a lot of the applications people use are either planning to deprecate X11 support or outright remove it.
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You'd think after all these years of "ricing" they wouldnt look so goddamn ugly irl. How about rice your appearance to look decent for once, damn!!!!!
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Red hat is deep in the X11 hating train and would likely be the last to support it, going kicking and screaming. Some BSD distros and such may be the first to support it, and if it's sufficiently stable then maybe more neutral distros (can't think of any off the top of my head). If it demonstrates itself as being superior then SteamOS may adopt it as they have full control of their hardware and experience, followed by Linux Mint as they are X11 by default and it would be trivial to ensure Cinnamon maintains support.
Probably the biggest problem would be if desktop environments and apps refuse to support it, Gnome would be actively hostile to X12 but KDE might be on the fence.
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I just do it in the normal setting.
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I think that the freedesktop people are the only app devs that really care about X11 vs Wayland beyond product functionality, and Xfce is the third biggest DE which would quickly adopt Xlibre if it becomes a clear upgrade, and most X11 app devs would be the same, the bigger problem would be popular apps that aren't being actively developed.
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I'm perfectly fine with Wayland overall. But if x12 (or whatever they actually want to call it) becomes the next thing. I would be all for it.
For one reason alone. It would be the funniest outcome.
Seeing Wayland shills like Brodie Roberson have to backtrack. Would be great.
The one thing though, well there are a few. But one of the main things. Is really the communication between everything in the server thing. Really needs to able to be completely disabled by default. And some more limited way needs to be implemented. Because even if it's not the biggest deal in the world. It is absolutely more insecure than not having that. And you really don't need that for just a modern desktop. At least not completely wide open.
DT is an arch user. Luke Smith was, an arch user. Not sure what he uses now.
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It's worth mentioning that the big thing that impeded Wayland adoption is the fact that Wayland does not include a framework to ease app development (I don't remember the exact details) and the Wayland team feraljaks about how they omitted that intentionally because X11 was too hard to maintain. Xlibre will continue to have this framework so it will be easier to adopt for everyone, especially projects that don't have Gnome level funding.
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Isn't that necessary for assistive systems like an on screen reader for the blind? Sure disabling it by default makes sense, but it does have a purpose.
And if I recall one of X11s biggest things was that the application and the de don't need to be on the same computer. So if you have a hide demand app like a 3d video renderer you could be running the app on a server but be using it on a weaker desktop
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The thing is. Most people. Just using an average desktop system. That aren't disabled. Won't need it. Which is my point. So having isolation by default. Really makes more sense. Then if lets say an accessibility suite needs it. It could easily adjust it in the xorg config. Or someone who is actually doing things with multiple machines, could enable it if needed.
Even 10 years ago, even well before that. For desktops average desktop users weren't using their system like that. Not saying no one was, just not for a person that wants a desktop machine.
Not having the display server built around everything seeing everything else. Is probably a good idea if some form of xorg is going to stick around. At least if normal people are going to run a desktop using it. And just to clarify. By normal people, and desktop users. I mean people that run Linux on their desktop, don't do work with servers, maybe they game, do some kind of average computing task. Running normal hardware, like a laptop, or some desktop machine. That is what I mean by average desktop user.
Yeah. Idk if that's what he is still using. But it's basically just arch to me at the end of the day. And in general it's pretty safe to say he was/is an arch user.
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is the fact that Wayland "developers" are colossal faggots. If these fucks wrote software instead of "designing a protocol", maybe Wayland wouldn't be such a steaming pile of shit after however many years it took them to (still not) make it usable. The lack of a high(er) level "standard library" is completely insane, and the fucking "extensions" bullshit alone deserves some kind of an award. It's like they looked at OpenGL/Vulkan and said "oh yeah, these are fantastic, I love writing thousands of LOC just to support some configuration that probably doesn't even exist, just because they couldn't agree on a stable feature level".
I wish the "X12" autist all the best, but probably the only way it can take off is if he somehow manages to basically refactor the whole thing, while maintaining compatibility, and/or someone like Valve tells trannies to fuck off and joins in, so future's not looking too bright
